MrMeltdown

Payne was a bad pick and he will not make a positive contribution to this team this year with his overall performance. Very much like Dennis last year, his contribution will be negative as they try to force him into the lineup at times when he is clearly not ready.

No, not really. Ask a person that ended up in prison for a crime they didn't commit rather or not you have to prove your claims. They will tell you no, all you need is to get the right people to believe you and that's what the prosecution found. Ask a person that has been locked up in a mental institution if you have to prove your claims. They will tell you no, they can lock you up in a mental ward for a certain amount of days with no test, no proof of mental illness other than there opinions, they can then let you go before the situation gets to the courts and they have to provide adequate proof. Thus, they never ever have to provide adequate proof. So, my point is it is all based on what you have seen in life. Don't think the amount of likes you receive means you are right.

Teague/Mack Korver/Thabo DMC/Thabo Sap/Scott/Payne Horford/Antić/Payne Most of the playing time will go to 9 guys. The starters and Mack, Thabo, Scott, and Antić off the bench. Thabo will turn out to be your significant addition.

You can say anything but proving is something different.

Some people that are 5"7, 350 are fine with it also. Does it make them healthy?

I can't explain it. For instance, I could make a post about how Teague is significantly better than Kemba Walker but Walker is rated 4 points higher than him in the new 2K game and someone would come in talking about how its because Kemba has better offensive awareness or its because Teague is inconsistent. Every thread about Teague turns into him being inconsistent and not aggressive enough. Those are the answers to everything Teague and its just not true. Per argument http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6479/kemba-walker http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4015/jeff-teague Win share argument http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014_advanced.html Teague is rated higher in both per and win share/win share per 48 and there raw numbers are not very different. They will still find a reason to blame this on Teague and lack of aggressive or not being consistent or claim Kemba has better offensive awareness when its actually worse because of his sub .400 FG% which indicates he either does not know what a good shot is or just can't shoot and continues to let them fly.

When did it ever end?

Fact is Teague averaged 16.5 pts for the season. He only had one month when he averaged less than 16 pts and that was February. Fact is he averaged 6.7 assists for the season He had two months in the 8 assists per range. Three months in the 6 assist range and one month in the 5 assist range. That is where his major variations are but we know that the first two months were mostly with Horford. I continue to be dumbfounded because I don't see the consistent inconsistency that you guys preach about. We can get away from what some will refer to as raw stats and start looking at FG% by month, etc., but if we do that with Teague we need to do it with Sap and the rest of the team. Sap's efficiency fell off without Horford also.

Please, going into the season with Paul and Jeff being 1A and 1B is the same way the season ended last year. I am not excited about the season starting the same way. The team needs to gel and get used to one another. They don't need Al sitting out or not being healthy. They don't need to be playing guys heavy minutes who are not going to help the team in the long run.

The whole argument is redundant and borderline silly. Ask Paul George if he respects Teague. Ask Paul George and see if he stands around talking about what Teague can't and doesn't do as opposed to how he can really hurt you and did hurt them.

It's pretty bad to overrate a guy like that while underrating another person.

Sad, going into camp knowing this man is not 100% and did nothing to compensate for that. If you are counting on a guy that you overrated and never should have picked in Payne coming in and picking up the slack you will just be putting another feather in your cap as the most laughable NBA franchise going.

Those who wanted Danny gone will still want him gone after your passionate plea. I stand with them and I am saddened that he is still a part of the organization.

Al is 83, Sap 85, Kemba Walker is 82 that is the most laughable thing I ever saw. Kemba Walker can't touch Teague but he is rated 4 points higher. Teague 78 Korver 78 DMC 75 Sap 85 Horford 83 Teague's rating is too low and laughable they have people at his position rated above him who can't shine his shoes. Sap is not better than Horford. Horford was our best player when he went down. Sap really was not as efficient without Horford. I might partake in the game but the ratings are laughable. They just remind you that its a game written by people that still don't fully know or understand basketball.

The ratings are getting even more laughable. https://www.facebook.com/notes/nba-2k/nba2krank-rankings-for-every-nba-player/10152291565942267

And you would be going way overboard. I do agree that Noah and Gasol is the best PF/C combination in basketball.

Danny Ferry is God. Let's all defend his words and persecute anyone that goes against them.

Not excited about this tandem at all on defense. They will cause some problems on offense the nights that Sap is driving the ball. Team is too one dimensional and none of that was fixed during the offseason

Ferry should have been officially fired by now.

Teague had a better per and was simply more impactful than Brandon Knight,Darren Collison and to have George Hill rated the same as Teague after that series is the biggest joke going. It has nothing to do with that same deadhorse these people keep beating about some magical bad 3 months he had. 2K claims there new ratings are based on a players value.

Teague got bigger in the arms atleast.

Laughable. Brandon Knight nor Darren Collison is better than Teague anywhere other than the game.

Ferry simply isn't worth the headache he brings and has not done anything so great for serious Hawks fans to continue to take up for him.

Should exit with the rest

I see Isaiah Thomas is an 80. So, I am thinking Teague is a 82-83. Yes, I used to play mostly NBA 2K and NCAA College Football with some wrestling, boxing, and mixed martial arts mixed in. Would love to have a baseball game to play also that is why I am looking at a PS4. Sad that you can't get a decent baseball game on XBOXONE. The whole exclusive era put a big damper on gaming for me. We lost 2K Football which I liked more than Madden. EA stopped making MVP Baseball which I liked. I don't know I might give it one last shot before the year is over.