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Fischer says DFS is being shopped. I'm intrigued. That is all. As you were.

I take it that the person prefers to slide under the radar. But more than one trade was proposed that, at the time, I suggested was probably a bit ambitious. Following the HOU trade, it was fun to watch that topic avoided from time to time when the opportunity presented itself to demonstrate a little intellectual humility.

I believe that. Fer sure.

"Decent return" and "real value" may or may not be the same thing. I prefer not to call anyone out, tho. ... you know meeeee.

I remember being assured we could net some kind of decent return for... *cough* *cough*... JDay... by someone... not you. But seems relevant to mention here.

Fischer says Gallo to WAS as part of the deal.

Kyrie Irving did a mock draft? Who knew. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-mock-draft-2023-final-predictions-latest-trade-rumors-prospects-rising-and-falling-entering-draft-day/ar-AA1cPNeS

Dunno bout that. Brogdon is/was a significant asset. The net advantage isn't significant, imo. But KP does get some passionate advocates around here... so that's possibly a minority opinion.

Are not.

Wait. Did I see what I think I just saw? Jay jumped in to endorse some point IIIIIIIII made?!?!?!?!?

*sigh* I'm a little frustrated, not that you persist... we both, AHF, share some appreciation, even love for spirited deliberation... but that I'm crippled at the moment by being restricted to posting by thumb, and not ten fingers on my laptop. Will get back to you, maybe, after this current 6(!) day power outage in my neck of the woods finally meets it's sweet end.

That's three (predictable) souls for the Anti-Discernment Club... hehe. How silly a take... and if I may say so... how tragically aligned with a segment of voters' thinking in our modern day political context... "Leave me alone, I'm gonna look to whatever uninformed people I feel best reinforce what I want to believe to be true."

Better late than never, that's what I always say.... hehe... but thanks, Jay.

That Book of Proverbs has some wisdom in it, don't it.

It is. We agree on that much. Question. Did you bother reading my post or did the mere sight of me responding trigger you to figure I offered nothing reasonable, nothing meriting chewing on... ?.... hehe Because I really did speak to your protests already, and don't feel like repeating them would make any difference. Cliffs Notes... no one can credibly persuade, not even the man himself, that his reasons for exiting Utah had nothing to do with Ainge's purge... that attempt in the context of this discussion suggests he's capable of saying and maintaining what he would prefer people to believe regardless of compelling reason to believe otherwise. That said, I said what I said, and there remains every compelling reason to believe it could be reality (... acknowledging, of course, that reality is rarely ever completely extant). I'll only add, there is ZERO INCENTIVE... NOTHING GOOD COULD POSSIBLY COME FROM... Quin saying anything less than what he said. Would be foolish... players would look at him differently... GM would be put in a very awkward place... it's simply not something a professional, sober person would ever allow to be perceived by a function of his own words. (Surely we all also can agree on that precise point.)

Anyone who did was wrong https://tankathon.com/players/sekou-doumbouya Nothing metrics wise says otherwise. From New York Post on 2019 international prospects... Sekou Doumbouya, power forward, France The 6-foot-9 Doumbouya rose to prominence playing in France with Limoges and with the international team at the 2016 U18 European Championships. France — led by Doumbouya and Frank Ntilikina — won gold. Doumbouya projects to be a combo forward and is by far the highest-rated of the international prospects in this draft class. Scouting reports say he’s a strong defender who can switch onto multiple positions and an impact rebounder. Questions arise with Doumbouya’s offense, though. His assist-to-turnover ratios are consistently poor and he’s shot a career 28-percent from 3-point range. He could go as early as the back end of the lottery.

Big news, relatively speaking. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/06/nba-increases-salary-cap-projection-for-2023-24.html 3m increase for tax line.

I'm on that train. I just don't want to have to rely on him being that in Year One. And/but Quin has a good history with players like Lively.

"... I'm being told..." hehehe Welcome to the club, buddy. We're ALL "being told" right now.

The difference is that you're arguing for the rule... in theory, that's how one conventionally would expect the Organizational Leadership for Dummies to read. I'm fine with that rule, and endorse it. (It's part of why, actually, I was so irritated with APR's revelation that he'd lied about the Travis break-up.) But this is the classic moment where the exception to the rule deserves to be applied instead... for reasons already exhaustingly deliberated. But circling back, I'm given a lot of comfort seeing how Landry talks about it all... though, I do want him to feel more stressed than he apparently is... this is a huge moment in the timeline of the Trae Young era. HUGE.

From what I see, Cam II is the epitome of what Koonin was advocating for in the radio interview a few weeks ago. But could he be a force from Year One? Dunno.

Disagree. Defense was the one asset for which Sekou was almost universally celebrated in the scouting reports leading up to the draft. Everything else observers thought to be plausibly pointing the right direction, based on his playing at such a high Euro level at such a young age. Appreciate the rest of the opinion though.

Young Landry can't feel the "overwhelming pressure of it all" for hopefully obvious reasons he recognizes... he's new... his job is not on the line to deliver... yet. That day is more likely than unlikely to be visible within a year or two or three, depending on success. But also, that his boss's consistent theme over the course of the years where it concerns basketball ops leadership is that APR mainly wants to see "plays well with his peers" on the report card. He wants to see a "collaborative" group, which, again again again, allows himself, Antony Peter, the latitude to excuse himself for having the ultimate final word on any high-gravity decisions.

Question. Not a statement. Does the argument for drafting Coulibaly high remind anyone of the argument for drafting Sekou Doumbouya high in 2019? (...he asked, embarrassed that he was among those who made the Sekou argument.)

It was somewhat convincing right up until that last part, right? Does anyone seriously believe that Quin would have left Utah if Ainge had ran back essentially the same roster? Sooooo, but here's where I do think there is legitimate room even still for "two things to be true at the same time"... Quin doesn't expect of Landry et al to do what he says... but but but... Landry is wise enough to do that anyway maybe ... and/or and/or and/or... Landry knows whether explicitly or implicitly Antony Peter will be much more easy to placate to the degree the owner knows a given decision has Quin's support. Right? Related... here's all you really need to know on the topic of whether this operation is being guided in the conventional strong dictatorial GM way, or if it's much more like a committee with a chairman carrying a lot of weight but who very much is inviting his colleagues to share the load: Notice how Landry BEGINS his answer with "I"... but that's not how he finishes the response, is it. It's a "we" thing. (Not that that is new language. Reaffirms what we already knew from both his words and at least as importantly, his boss's.)