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Nah, proven talent over potential any day. Murray is an all nba level player while onyeka is currently bench level. Sacrificing depth for star power is always worth it, especially in this case if we could land Gobert. Backup center matters a lot less when Rudy will play 35-38 min in the playoffs. A Trae/Murray/Hunter/JJ/Rudy lineup is insane (being very high on JJ._.). I admit not having an established 4 in the starting lineup isn't ideal... But sometimes you live with having a great meal even if it's a bit softer than ya like go jackets

Also, if TS was the type to do a garbage trade like JC for Barnes straight up, he probably would've already made a dumb trade in his tenure. I don't buy the negativity, with casuals being able to tell it's not a good deal for Atlanta, there's no way Travis thinks it is.

Yeah but it's more fun to get excited about draft/FA things

Trae doubling down on something big happening

Why would it be a slap in the face? Trae was just referencing his new baby duties But also, Nba players tweet vague things all the time. Doubt anyone would have any awkwardness/hard feelings, unless it's like a situation like where Eric Bledsoe wanted out publicly, but you find that Eric had made a promise to a friend on the squad to stay on the Suns together until a championship was won. So, hopefully no promises were made and Trae isn't unintentionally mildly sabotaging relationships

If we trade with the Pacers for Duarte, what could a return look like? Pacers don't really have any expensive contracts outside of Buddy/Miles/Brogdon to make the deal work. Doubt Travis would take on bad money just to acquire Duarte, so multi-team trade perhaps?

Clint -> Phoenix, Ayton -> Atl John -> SA for Murray and Langford Kev/Bogi -> Nola for 8/Daniel Dyson Off season moves I'd love to see happen somehow. Grabbing Portis or Tucker to round out the squad would finally bring some of that Solo toughness back. Wish we would sign him on as an assistant.

Waitt, why do all signs point to him being a Piston? Has Ayton expressed a want to be in Detroit already?

I wouldn't take any part of this trade, really poor for the Hawks I believe. JC is worth more than Grant(on his current contract)+ Hart alone. Jerami isn't worth what he wants, we don't need to overpay someone to be our 3rd option. When money is limited by the salary cap, and you have a supermax player that isn't exactly easy to build around, you gotta be smart with your money.

Good players are missed in the draft all the time, and JC/Kevin weren't exactly picked very high, lower than our current draft Position. The only player you can be referencing is cam, but how can you predict a person's temperament / wants years into the future. I think Travis has done a pretty good job with asset management since he was hired. You work with the hands you're dealt, and if we can an opportunity to flip OO for Murray that would be a fantastic trade. Doesn't really matter what position they were drafted when evaluating current talent levels imo

In : Ayton, Simmons Out : Capela, JC I also think we get a 4/72 Extension with Hunter Use pick 16 to draft/trade for a Huerter/Bogi replacement

Yall, please don't become victim to a buttcrack sports tweet lol. If Simmons is unhappy we should definitely make a play for him imo, but that tweet doesn't mean anything

With all the changes we're expected to make in the off season, do yall think we'll be in the championship hunt? I feel like we'll be a competitive playoff team, but a season to let the team gel and potentially get a new HC is whatll push us into the elite tier of teams in the NBA

Yeah Melo signing was mostly a joke. Seeing as Hawks have been talking to OKC for a while, sounds like we're trying to get Micic's rights + shore up some defense with Mr Kenrich Williams and Dort. Really hope we can make something happen with them, getting 2 needs filled (backup pg + defense) would be a major win

What level of return would you guys expect to get if we trade JC? Love John and hope to keep him on the team, but if Portland makes 7 available or Kings 4, would you do it? I'd say no to Portland, yes to the kings. Trae has proven he can make any big man a reliable PnR partner, so getting Ivey or anyone else with star potential in the top 4 range would be worth more than what John brings I think. Idk, hard to replace elite stretch 4's, but a trade off from that to rolling the dice in the draft sounds like a fun gamble (even though it would be absolutely horrible if TS misses)

So we all agree Al is a top 5ish Hawks player all time, some have him higher, others lower. Now.. Let's get back to the rumor mill: Should we be getting Carmelo Anthony this FA? He's a former all star-future hall of famer Hawks legend, I think he'd be good for morale and some bench shooting. Also, heard Micic from the Europe may want to come to the NBA, we think we have any chance of getting him to backup Trae? Would be pretty cool to see

I'd say Julius's game isn't really conducive to winning basketball. His best year when he got that contract, he was hitting ridiculous shots at an absurd percentage. It wasn't/isn't sustainable, and if we got Julius, he wouldn't have the ball in his hands as much, and it's in that situation you have to assess his strengths. Julius playing off-ball doesn't have the strengths needed atm to succeed in that role, and whenever he has the ball, he's a ball stopper. Julius may be a more "talented" player than JC, but his talents don't translate to winning. I'd rather have everyone on our roster top down than give any of them up for Julius on his contract. The Knicks only wanting aging Gallo for their all star who led the them to the playoffs for the first time in forever should be telling lol, we gotta stay away

I went to tech so I'm familiar with mr Kg's type so I think it'll be ok lol, and my name is just my initials. Not too creative with the screen names Thanks for the warm welcome everyone

This feels as good a time as any to start... Lol. Hi yall, been lurking for a while but haven't posted cause I'm shy, but saw the silly argument going on earlier and don't think I can do any worse. I'll start by saying getting Simmons would be a home run move. As someone stated earlier, Trae was talking with more sympathy and love towards Ben in the podcast, so you've gotta think Trae still really wants to play with him. Simmons would instantly up our defense, give us one of the best transition players in the game, help up our pace of play, and everyone outside of him on the court will be able to shoot (assuming a Trae/Kevin/Simmons/JC/Okongwu lineup where Big O has learned how to shoot). His lack of mental toughness is overstated imo, if he gets out of the north east and into the south, I think he'll be met with a lot more kindness than he's used to and will be more comfortable and happy. And we all know how hard happy people work