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Season's already started, but that doesn't really matter for Roto leagues. I have set up a league called RotoHawks in ESPN http://games.espn.go.com/fba/leaguedirectory There is rooms for 16 teams - hopefully there is enough interest to get it full. Snake Live Draft: Saturday, November 6, 2010 at 4:00 PM ET Password: Horford

Well, other starters are shooting 5/21 so far

Charles Odum should sue you...

"Uh, hello, anyone there....Regarding Wade, 1) Wade's +6.3 Roland Rating is higher than either of out top two player's Roland Ratings so yes, even in a bad year coming off injury, Wade is a star player GREATER THAN our star players," This is exactly the way not to use Roland Rating by its defition. Not saying that the argument of the need for a better top 2 players is wrong...

I understand you have "significant ability" to AT MINIMUM take single words out of context.

Someone in heats RealGM board also thinks the refs sucked... ------------------------------------------------------------ fishfuego. Scout Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 101 Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it's simple...refs are looking the other way when Wade gets fouled most of the time...Atlanta got that tic tac foul at the end that made it a 3 point shot, but on the following play Wade also got fouled as it shows on my dvr...he got upset but the ref laughed at his face...I've been noticing this ever since last year...the NBA officials are participting on this and it is unfair to a player with such gifted ability.. NBA my a$$...NO WAY!

We made our run in the 4th with Childress as PG, either Law or Lue did nothing when they were in. The only "PG like" passes I saw were made by Smoove.

It's definately a measuring stick in a sense that it is certainly a game we SHOULD win. If we want to be over .500 these are the games we should take care of.

I'd say, at any point when it looks like we are dropping out of the playoff race.

The same PJ Brown the traded a year ago to Bulls?

Quote: Zaza is probably in a socialist country Soviet Union has collapsed - missed the news??

Georgia got beaten by Iceland 75-76 and most likely won't qualify for division A. Georgia led 74-72 with 11 sec's to go when Zaza got to the FT-line, made the 1st, missed the 2nd (75-72). Iceland Guard Logi Gunnarson was fouled with 7 sec's left. He made the first FT (75-73), missed the 2nd, got the rebound himself, swings a pass to Jakob Sigudason behind the 3pt line and dang Georgia lost 75-76.

"I have a feeling that we [the Georgian national team] are going to win all four games and qualify for the European championships. And I have feeling that we [the Hawks] are going to make the playoffs." Like BigDirty said he's NOT even playing to qualify for the European championships. (this could be editorial mistake by Sekou too) Hopefully he knows what he's talking about when sharing his feelings about the Hawks & the playoffs.

Quote: they were giving certain players or teams special treatment. Not saying that your statement by any means is wrong. But, if Donaghy's reveal is that referees X, Y & Z (+17 others) have attended casinoes and played roulette - it is hardly evidence for "star treatment". It would be against the agreement between the refs and NBA, but might have nothing to do with actual basketball. If the refs were gambling on basketball games then it might be another story.

I didn't know Vasquez had a problem with who draft him.

Quote: It's high time these imports learn that you don't hand pick where you go. If you want to play in the league, you'll do it just like everyone else or you can keep playing in obscurity. And with "these imports" you refer to who?

Gotta keep the flag up for small nations Marty A is not a russian, but lithuanian.

It's amazing how his stock has risen. The hype machine has really started to work for him. A lot depends on how he does in workouts.

Koponen plays for my hometown team here in Finland and was not projected to be in the draft before the hoop summit in Memphis where he got very good evaluasions after playing against Mayo etc., holding his own and gaining the starter PG role of the international squad. He is not afraid to shoot and can be deadly if he is on. It's only his first year to run the team (was BU last year) as a starting PG and lack of experience shows at times. His ability to keep his play under control has improved vastly and he sees the fllor well. How his game and translates to NBA is quite difficult to say given that the finnish league is so much weaker, but in Memphis he seems to have been able to compete very well. He will most likely pull out from the draft, sign with a good team in Europe to face better competition to improve his game and enter the draft next year. At least, this was the thinking before the hoop summit which "popped him out of nowhere".

If you disregard his point #1, what do you guys think about #2 & #3?

Quote: Name the last 4th worst team to win a title within 3 years time. Such a team would not only have a 12-13th pick but a likely 4th pick. I'd be interested to see how they did it. SA maybe with their tank. Let's see what you can come up with. 4th (hell I'll take 5th or worst) to 1st in 3. Let's see it. History mocks you. -Doesn't that also mean that you'll have to try to start winning at some point because it is tough to turn around a team quickly? -Name the most succesful tankings from let's say last 10 years

"That's borderline moronic MW24...whadaya think...Smoove is gonna work his tail off most of the season and then the Hawks are gonna reduce his minutes (and therefore per game stats) and he and his agent are gonna sit there and watch?" How is that different from reducing his minutes because the franchise is tanking?

Ok, thanks. IMHO you underestimate the positive impact of competing and winning to motivation and confidence, but I can respect your opinion when you have had a look of how team dynamics work from the coaching POV.

Just one question W, Have you ever coached, in any level of any team sport, where the players were older than 15? Yes or no.

I had to run it like 50 times before Hawks got #1 - I started to think they had built in the "hawks will never get #1"-rule. By the way are there still others (like DrReality (?)) who think the lottery is rigged? As there is no point to be pro-tank if you honestly believe the lottery is rigged.