When was the last time anyone has watch a Hawks game and said to themselves, "Good D Al", or "Way to take a charge Al," or "Look at that rejection dy Al." It comes few and far between if ever at all. He justs move out of the way or fouls. I like his offense and aggressiveness but I truly that if Marvin plays with Al aggresiveness he'll surpass Al in no time. I say trade him, but not for chump change.