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Atlanta is not 1st on that ranking, we are probably 3rd or 4th behind Utah, Grizzlies, Knicks and probably Sixers

At this point and after John has rejected what everybody agree is as a fantastic offer from Hawks I am ready to listen to offers. This guy is trouble, already was this year with some issues with Trae and the difficulties to sign him to a reasonable contract is clearly a red flag.

He is not a Max player. The other 2 guys we had problems to resign were Schröder and Josh Smith, both complicated characters that after the initial boom on the league quickly went down not playing to their contract levels. Well, I think John belong to this group, a guy that thinks is better than he really is and is going to be always a problem claiming a role he is not prepared to support. Long term that is a Big problem to win a Championship.

I understand this is not probably a popular statement but is what I think today. Hopefully everything is solved, he signs a reasonable contract and accepts that probably he is 3rd or 4th Guy in the team, chances It happens are really low for me. I think he ends at OKC.

hace 17 minutos, sturt dijo:

I'm not keeping track but I'm hearing OKC still has room. And they are the kind of opportunistic team that gets fairly creative sometimes in turning others' situations into their gain.

They have around 20m$ but I don't see any pieces they have that we would like on sign and trade.

hace 1 minuto, NBASupes dijo:

Probably! I went from thinking we was going dominate the SL to well, Coop, Mays and JJ

Yeah, has happened the same to me.

I Guess now is 

Cooper

Mays

Ibi

JJ

Moreland?

Once SA is done I guess if Collins is not taking the offer is because the offer is not there, I don’t mind what the Athletic is saying, I don’t believe a word

Well, a lineup of Ball, Lavine, Derozan, Markkanen, Vucevic is good although defense is a questionmark. 2nd unit is very poor right now specially on the frontcourt. Let's see how they finish the team

hace 8 minutos, txsting dijo:

Really, really need Cam and Kevin to be bucket getters on that second unit, especially if we're running without Lou.  That's my only concern tbh.

A 2nd unit of Wright/Huerter/Reddish/Gallo/Dieng is not a problem offensively, I think they can score easily. A lot of floor spacing and good passing.

On our East competition

Miami - Got better, but does it work? Starting 5: Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker, Adebayo, good defense, bad floor spacing. Bench: Nunn, Herro, Robinson, Bjelica, Dedmon. Good floor spacing, bad defense. I don’t know, the fit is still a question mark for me.

Milwaukee - same, Portis and a work fill the role of Tucker.

NY - they change Bullock for Fournier. Some pieces are still young, I think they will improve a little.

Bulls - I like the team and fit. Ball/Lavine/Williams/Markkanen/Vucevic, bench is weak with White, Caruso, Young, 

Charlotte - They could be a problem.

Boston, Nets, stay about the same, Boston need to find a PG. I think this 7 are the playoff teams with Atlanta.

On the west I like what NO has done, don’t like Lakers squad.

We would be basically a worst team. We are better with Bogi than with DeRozan so no need to additionally give Huerter

I think is only the Spurs, I Guess we need to wait some days until SA make his decission. I really doubt they offer him a Max but Is might be wrong.

Delon Wright will fill his role providing more defense, I don't think we can find offer him a significant role or 2/3 years of contract

hace 13 minutos, HawkingAwesome dijo:

how in the heck did shlenk use scraps to get delon wright? 

Master move

hace 16 horas, Spud2nique dijo:

Wood was your guy. I kind of hated on him and wasn’t as high on him as you. To my surprise he exceed my expectations. I thought he would be a 6th man or solid contributor off the bench. Watching him a bunch this past season, he’s a 20/10 guy easily. It was 2 years ago when he and Thingram were free.

Wood was also my guy last offseason, I wanted to sign him badly.
This was easy to see 3 seasons ago. When he was at NO he finished really strong last 3-4 weeks, showing he was a legit big. He mad a heck of a game vs our Hawks.

Next season at Detroit started slow behind Drummond and Griffin, by mid season he was the best big on the team, started at C when Drummond left and performed really well, he would have made me win my fantasy league but COVID came to ruin my season.

Last off-season I was really angry when we signed Gallo instead of Wood. You already know how his season was.

hace 17 horas, sturt dijo:

Wood was not regarded as a C until this season, when he was practically forced to be.

Wood was already playing C at Detroit for half season when Drummond left, he has always played C and PF.

hace 33 minutos, NBASupes dijo:

The money is drained this year it seems. A lot of FAs but not a lot of money or roster spots. It's gonna be a lot of week 1 signings, especially today.

Thanks Supes, reading your last statement really makes me wonder who can give a max contract to Collins this season? Should we wait and match the best offer her gets as happened with Schröder or Josh Smith?

hace 9 minutos, sturt dijo:

I believe that, too. But just from a practicality and efficiency stand point, once OO is back, it would be optimal to have someone you feel good about seeing the floor in both roles... not unlike it's good to have a 5th backcourt guy who is a viable option at either PG or SG, imo. (Yes, like, say, a LouWill.)

The only guy that can do that is Dieng.

Is clear that it could be difficult to keep our core and probably we need to make a trade for other players but the time is not now, we still have 2 seasons.

Talent wise this year is probably going to be the best one, is possible that next year as well if we keep Gallo. After that we will replace some key players for other pieces but is also true that our young guys would have develop, is difficult to predict the real level of the team in 2 years. 

By the time  Bogi, Capela and Gallo contract expires, Gallo will be a non factor, Bogi will be 32 and the only player worth resigning will be Capela.

Assuming Schlenck have already plans to lock Young, Reddish, Hunter, Collins and Okongwu with Jalen Johnson and Cooper and at least other first rd pick on the roster the decision might be between Capela or Huerter.  All will depend on the players we would have added through draft and FA and is very difficult to predict because when time is coming Bogi, Gallo or Capela may have been traded for other key pieces at different positions.

I think Schlenck see Young, Reddish, Hunter, Collins and Okongwu as the future starting 5, the rest is dynamic and Huerter is probably he odd man out if is needed. I think next year with Reddish, Bogi and Hunter healthy his role is going to go down, he is a fantastic player but his ceiling is lower.

hace 5 minutos, marco102 dijo:

He's a 7 footer, not sure the Hawks want to take a flyer on him though.

He is basically out for the season. Can’t stay healthy

I don’t think he has such talent, his athleticism is not something special.

hace 49 minutos, thecampster dijo:

We're gonna finish with a salary of 125 to 130ish. That's why he's worried. He would like to keep the other 3 players pushing us there (Clint, Gallo, Bogi) as long as we can.  There have been media reports of us giving up on one of the 5 (Trae, JC, Reddish, Hunter, Huerter). If we keep all 3 of the first 3, we would have problems keeping the last 5. He's seeing the future.  Supes is much more of a talent, rumors guy and has been getting up to speed on the cap stuff in the last year. His concerns are valid though still a new realm for him to be thinking of so he may not be able to see every angle like Jaybird, myself, Sturt and a few others on the board. He's much more of  "how they all fit" guy and not a "how they all fit under the cap guy" but to his credit, he's made an effort the last year + to learn that stuff.  This isn't the stuff you casually learn in a year. The CBA is a complicated mess and I'll admit I don't like reading it. We have a few lawyers on the board and they don't like reading it, because its that long.  There's some reading a few pages back and in the salary cap thread on this. Sturts' got a spreadsheet and I have Summary sheet that show why he (Supes) is expressing concern.

The only player worth resigning after his contract is over is probably Capela. Gallo will be finished and Bogi probably as well. Their value will be much less, probably Capela maintains it.

The issue here is maintaining talent through draft to find replacements for this players, we made it great this draft, awesome!! We found Gallo replacement.

Now we need to go for Capela replacement, or Okongwu replacement when he is promoted to starting role and Bogi replacement.