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Hey @Sothronand @Mikey now that the 15th has come and gone, what timeline do you think we're looking at. Pretty much the trade deadline?

43 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Damn.. .That's right.  We have NEVER drafted a Superstar... Ever.

 

Pau Gasol? 

In fact you could summarize that we have $25 million of cap space available for a trade, and about $12.5 million available for a Free Agent (the Mid Level Exception). That's a lot of flexibility, thank you LF.

I just want to say this now. This inside information about KAT has sprinkled pixie dust on my evening. And even if the trade falls apart, as any talks can, it will still have been well worth it.
 

But I’m just waiting for some dumbass to get pissy in the event that the insiders are “wrong.” You would be missing the whole point of the fluidity of inside information. And you would be woefully ungrateful for the joy that we are all now experiencing, as we lay our heads down to sleep, and dream, tonight.

Signing DJM to this extension has to surely boost the grade for this offseason, no matter what happens next.  Maybe it goes from an A- to an A. And an upgrade at center could shoot it to an A+. But no matter what this team is looking deep, talented, and well-coached.

Actually, it appears with this trade framework that DeJounte goes to Toronto along with DeAndre.

So our lineup would be looking more like: Trae, AJ/Bogi, J Brown, Bey/OOO, Capela

I think would still be a pretty interesting result, but I'm 50/50 also on it. I go back and forth in my mind.

But it brings us back to the original trade issue for this offseason: What about Clint?

Is there any remaining momentum to deal CC, as a separate deal or worked into this behemoth deal?

How about Vuc as a stretch 5?

He's a free agent this summer. Perhaps some sort of sign and trade in which CC or JC are shipped elsewhere.

So you're saying that despite their best efforts to overcome this fit issue, and even with a new coach, the odds of success are slim, no matter how bad the Hawks Wanna Be Starting Something?

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Yo, Encanto!

@NBASupes What has been the influence of Landry Fields? He was touted for his relationships around the league, when he was brought in. Have these relationships contributed to trades and Free Agent wooing? If Travis had a weakness, at least early on, it was his trades, starting with his weak-sauce means of offloading Dwight Howard.

But he seems to have improved considerably when it comes to value exchange in his trades.

You don't hear much about Fields, so I was curious as to whether you had some insights on him.

3 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I forgot to add another SEC prospect to that list.  Alabama's Joshua Primo.  Now he's a guy that fits Travis's MO and also brings solid defensive ability to the table.  

Oh yes, I like Primo a lot too!

1 hour ago, KB21 said:

Outside of John Collins and Onyeka Okongwu, Travis's picks have all been centered around players who could shoot, pass, and dribble.  I'm curious to see if that continues this year.  If it does, then I think the Hawks are likely looking at Chris Duarte from Oregon, Trey Murphy from Virginia, Tre Mann from Florida, and Jared Butler from Baylor.  If they are more focused on projecting improvement in those areas, then I think that brings Cam Thomas of LSU, Kai Jones of Texas and Jaden Springer of Tennessee into the mix.  

I think you've put together a pretty accurate last as to who the Hawks are likely to zero in on. The only exception I believe is Trey Murphy, as he is generally regarded to be a poor dribbler who statistically has relied on being assisted for the vast majority of his baskets. And it is now looking like Duarte will be picked ahead of #20. So that leaves Mann, Butler, C. Thomas, K. Jones, and Springer as the likely suspects.

Hey, Supes, what do you think of swingman Aaron Henry of Michigan State?

I think he could be a real sleeper in the mid/late first round.

The first couple of years in college he was a real defensive presence and glue guy.

But this past year he was forced to be their primary initiator and he really thrived, adding that dynamic element to his game.

And his shooting seems pretty solid, as he works further on it with Mike Miller.

On 3/4/2021 at 4:28 PM, Thomas said:

Been talking off and on about the end of games for two and a half years with the Hawks. Remember I pissed a few off by the late game comparison of LP to Ron Jirsa. Maybe that was more of an insult than a comparison but my point is you just got to win late in games to really be a contender. Control your destiny.  

By the way, you know who was on Ron Jirsa's coaching staff at UGA...

Travis Schlenk (born 1976 or 1977) is the general manager and president of the Atlanta Hawks of the NBA. Prior to joining the Hawks in May 2017, Schlenk was the assistant general manager of the Golden State Warriors, having joined that team prior to the 2004-05 season as a video scout.^[1] He has also worked as a video coordinator for the Miami Heat from 1999 to 2003, and as Director of Basketball Operations for the University of Georgia basketball program from 1998 to 1999.^[2]

I couldn't find an old UGA pic, but this was at least one with hair 

Here's a dark horse: Anthony Grant of Dayton. Head coaching experience, admittedly in college, but a former NBA assistant. And he's considered an offensive innovator.

I want no part of Jeff Van Gundy. He's been in the garage too long, and even before that he couldn't make it work with Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady.

Same for Mark Jackson, but for different reasons. There was the aforementioned bizarre drama within the organization with him and his assistant coaches and management. But I'm a Bay Area guy also, and there weren't too many fans around who were sad to see him and his bare-bones offensive scheme leave town.

Jackson's situation brings up the general point, that what is best for the team may not be fair to the coach. It may not be fair to Pierce to be let go at this juncture, with these injuries, but most who have closely watched the team (and seeing the Athletic report on how many players Pierce had already lost) see this change of voice as being in the best interests of the organization.

Mike Woodson got the same treatment. The national media saw a guy who won more games each season with a rebuilding team. Atlanta fans saw a guy who needed to go.

But with all that said, I'm fine with seeing what Nate can do, and then giving him the full-time gig if the players respond.

On 12/15/2020 at 2:47 PM, hawkzlova123 said:

BTW, thats a lot of money ..

 

228 mil for five years....

Wowzer,,,,,, make ur kids nba players folks!!!!

Less than .001% chance of making it to the NBA, let alone excelling.

That's why they deserve every penny of it!

3 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

Zero chance. He's too emotionally involved - which is fine if he wouldn't meddle in the FO decisions.  But since he does, there's no chance the Falcons will ever win at the highest level again, imo.  

Couldn't the same be said for Tony Ressler?

I think they are two pretty similar owners:

emotionally, and financially, invested, and trying to find the right balance between involvement and meddling.

4 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Does he not look like Billy Corgan?

I think that every time I see him.
And, speaking of Billy Corgan:

“Today is the greatest, day I’ve ever known!”

4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I was an advocate of waiting until Schlenk decided to go all in with ALL our capspace this offseason. There really is no point it waiting until next offseason since we won't have ANY capspace to go after FAs. This is it. This is our team for the next year at $100.  We'll be locked in at $112 million (projected cap) with John's $12 mill caphold going into next season.

I say we have 2 years to figure out what happens with Huerter, Reddish and Hunter. Trae will have signed his early rookie extention, Collins extended (after the Bogi deal). Assuming no trades:

 In 2 years Gallo and Capela will both have 1 year left, Rondo and Dunn expired. Bogi with 1+1 left (if he signs).

Huerter will be a RFA - will he be a super sub or will he be to us what Bogi is the Sac, looking to move on for a starting spot. This year will tell a lot.

Reddish and Hunter will be eligible for early rookie extensions if they have been GOOD ENOUGH. If not they'll both hit RFA or we trade 1 or both like we did with Prince. 

Yes, we haven't seen the JC/Collins pairing, but why is the assumption that JC is the one that gets moved, maybe it's Capela. Just saying.

 

I agree with this. If Okongwu steps up through the course of this season, I think you will see Capela moved by draft time next year, for expiring salaries and a pick. Then you potentially open up a max slot once again. I believe that this is the tentative plan already. And all the more reason to go ahead and lock up JC this offseason.

19 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

If we don't pay him, someone else will.

We've stepped our toe in the water to see how warm or cold the water is.  This is NOT the time to act like we're not ready to swim.

 

Teams that would gladly pay for Collins' services

• Houston
• Orlando
• NY Knicks
• Cleveland
• Washington
• LA Clippers

All of those teams would either make room, or sign and trade for a top notch big man like Collins.

Keep in mind folks, this team was borderline all-time bad without Collins in the lineup. ( 4 - 21 ).

Also, it's not Collins' fault that the coach refuses to call plays for him and utilize all of his offensive talents.  The talent is there.  It's always been there.

 

 

I actually would like to see JC Re-signed this off-season. But if he asks for even close to max money then wait till he is an RFA next year and then those teams you listed can PROVE that they would pay him, and then we match.