REHawksFan

15 hours ago, cam1218 said:

Will somebody please convince me that I want us to be the 8th seed, making me stay up late watching 8:30 playoff games against the Celtics. The other option of just calling this season what it is and moving on to draft/offseason mode just sounds, better?

Not going to try to convince you one way or the other. To me, it comes down to this....

Which do you value more?  

• 4-6 playoff games (in all likelihood) involving the Hawks; OR
• A top 10 pick in a weak draft 

Personally, it's a no brainer for me - I want the playoff games.  Although I admit I'd be more excited about them if JJ was healthy.  Still, nothing beats the playoffs, imo.  So I'll take 4-6 games of exciting playoff energy as the pot of pyrite at the end of this crappy rainbow of a season.  

1 minute ago, terrell said:

Not all his fault like I said but its just facts.. lol

No you didn't. Not in the original post. Which is exactly why I called it disingenuous. You knew those losses weren't on Trae but conveniently implied they were becaise it fits your opinion of him. It was only later that you admitted it wasnt on Trae. It's a bunch of nonsense. But you do you. 

5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

You just gotta laugh at that kinda stuff man. No sense in even responding.

You're right of course. The foolishness of a few just gets under my skin. 

So 5-10 is:

Magic

Pacers

Sixers

Heat

Bulls

Hawks

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

They just need to add Edey. That will solve all of their offensive issues. Defensively, we gonna take some time no matter what but I'll rather be a team that wins 48 games than a team that wins 35 games. 

Hawks would serve themselves well to slow their pace considerably. The faster Trae plays the more TOs he ends up with. When they slow it down they are significantly more efficient. And their D improves as well. 

2 minutes ago, terrell said:

I know you hate this stat, but Your boy Trae is a -39..  Good grief

Hate it. I hated it Friday when he was +16 as well. 

Honestly though...Bruno has best starter +/- at -28 while the Indy bigs went for 70+ on 75% shooting. But yeah....that stat is really instructive. LOL

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

66 points between Turner, Siakam, and Smith and it's only the 3rd quarter 

On 76.3% shooting.  The Bruno/Dre/MO combo on D is somethin.

As long as Philly is Top 6, I think Hawks are 90% or better to make the playoffs. If you had to take 2 of Orlando, Indy, Miami, Atlanta, and Chicago, I don't see how Hawks aren't favored to be in top 2. 

If you add Philly to that the odds drop substantially. 

8 hours ago, terrell said:

Tankathon has the KIngs in the lottery..

https://www.tankathon.com/

 

 

 

Tankathon just pulls the current standings. Nothing new. Kings either make the playoffs through the play in or they keep the pick. Citing tankathon is pointless. Just cite the standings. LOL

Well....I like the way the team is playing when the rotation guys are in. 

The question now is what is the rotation for the play in? Does Vit make it? 

Trae

DJ

Bogi

Dre

Clint

Bruno

Vit?

Kobe?

GMat?

Mo?

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

My guess is Trae still on minutes restrictions and DJ's quad might be a real thing.

Yeah...I mean, the game means nothing in terms of winning or losing. As long as they get as right as they can for the play in, that's all that really matters.

Vit and GMat checking in. Yall gonna have to explain this to me. 

I guess Q saying F it. Play errbody. LOL

I'm not a fan of the stat, but since it's the en vogue thing to cite....

Trae is currently +16

Next best Hawk is +4

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Trae is at 25 minutes. Is he still on minutes restriction?

If he is they gonna lose.  Need Trae's playmaking to win this game. 

2 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Trae - play with food short 3

DJ - wide open brick 3

Dre - blown rebound layup

Conley - wide open transition 3

 

Trae's played well considering the long layoff, but he's also passed up a couple of wide open lanes for kick out 3s that was bricked by Dre, DJ, and Bogi.

10-16 from the line

1-11 from 3pt

Yuck.

Is Trae on a min restriction tonight? 

Feisty Trae!! Or maybe pesky is the better word.

6 minutes ago, AHF said:

That doesn't seem bad.  

He is a tough one because he had two seasons where he did almost nothing then this year which was full of promise but still had multiple injuries which have been his Achilles heel.  From a numbers perspective, I don't think there is a metric that covers his upside (he is 8th in draft class in metrics like BPM and VORP and much lower in some others like WS due to a lack of playing time).

The challenge is that he is going to have significantly more upside than guys who he should probably be compared to for contract purposes just because he has missed so much time to injury and doesn't have a long track record (both due to health and Nate).

Here are a couple of names I'd throw out for as low and high end comparisons:

Devin Vassel (~$27M per year)

OO ($16M per year)

Desmond Bane (~$34M per year)

Cameron Johnson (~$24M per year)

Cam Johnson was the comp that started me down the $24-26M range.  Bane makes $34M?  Wow.  Didn't realize that.  

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

Let's talk next contract. JJ is early extension eligible this offseason. What should the Hawks do?

Sign him early and for how much or allow him to hit RFAcy next offseason?

 

No idea what kind of deal he's eligible for, but based on other players around the NBA, I'd say $24-26M annually is probably fair value for him. 

Here's the players in this range this year: