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Oh yes, 01d0rd3r is up and has been notified.

Ok, I will take Chuck Hayes, another young rebounding big man. He's quite a bit more efficient on the boards than Nene (Nene 12 rebounds per 48 minutes, Hayes 13.8 RB per 48), so I feel at this point I've got a veritable crapload of quality big men and a really deep rotation of bigs. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, add it all up and damn I'd love to see this team play! :)

I like Damien. He's a very hard-working player. If we had a team full of guys who worked that hard, or as others have noted if we could somehow morph Marvin and Damien together so you'd get a player with Marvin's physical gifts and Damien's heart and hustle, then we'd be all set.

Ugly is probably an understatement. It is looking really bad. There's labor war, but this seems more like a case of labor armageddon. They're saying the sides are so far apart that there's about a 75% chance the season may be canceled in its entirety, and that is just straight-up shitty. Totally sucks.

Yep, I remember you. Welcome back!

Nice pick. I like him. He's got a very Bill Laimbeer-ish quality going on.

Ok, I guess here I will go with Kirk Hinrich. We all know what he can do. Veteran floor leadership, highly intelligent, can knock down the 3-ball, careful with the ball/low turnovers, just a Steady Eddie type that's about as reliable as can be- and he's only 30 years old, so it's not like he's ancient history by any stretch of the imagination. My type of point guard who's versatile enough to also play the 2 guard spot. Totally non-flashy, just a very solid player, and I'm glad he's an Atlanta Hawk. And that would leave me with a rotation of: PG- Conley/Hinrich SG- Wade/JJ Barea SF- G. Hill/T. Allen PF- Aldridge/West/Millsap C- Nene/Aldridge Ok, I believe that Nicholas is on the clock. I will text him, though it looks like he may have gone the way of the dodo bird so far as this draft is concerned.

I'm still into it and wanting to go all the way to the end. It seems like most of the drafters are still into it, as there are just a few who have dropped out. But yeah, this thing has definitely slowed to a crawl. Not particularly worried about that one way or the other though.

Well the problem with trading for Al Jefferson is that he is not a center. He might have the size to play center, but he lacks the mentality and/or desire (and lacks greatly in the defensive abilty to play the 5) just as much as Horford does, and as we all know, Horford doesn't want to play center either. So basically we would be trading Smoove off only to replicate the problem of positional redundance, too many 4's and not enough 5's, so what would be the point in that, and why not just keep Josh in that case?

Danke schein, Supporter. Welp, I reckon here I will take Grant Hill. He is no spring chicken at 38 years old, but the way I look at it is that for a 38 year old man, he has still got a good amount of tread left on the tires due to all the time he's missed throughout his career because of injury, and that's been exemplified by his last 3 seasons in Phoenix in which he's played in 82, 81, 80 games (and has started 228 of those 243 games, averaging right around 30 minutes per game and playing very effectively and well in those 3 seasons. Everyone knows how smart a player he is, as he is considered one of if not *the* smartest players in basketball, and he brings a ton of positive attributes to the table, intangible things like smarts and leadership, and then his statistical accomplishments like the fact he's an outstanding shooter (.485% career from the field, which is superb for a SF), he is money at the FT line, averages 6.3 rebounds, 4.3 assists, and 1.3 steals per game, and his 3 point shooting has blossomed in Phoenix....and his defense often seems to get overlooked, but it shouldn't, as he is really fricken good defensively. He narrowly missed making the NBA All-Defensive second team this past season, and he has no real weaknesses as a player beyond the fact he's 38 years old. Across the board, he is as complete a player as there is in basketball, and where it not for all those unfortunate injuries early on in his career, we would be talking about Grant Hill, future Hall of Famer. And 01d0rd3r is up and has been notified.

Thanks for posting the update. It's good to hear he's still at least on the map. Now I'm wondering what the heck ever happened to Cenk Akyol?

Haha. You'd be getting all lesbian-ish on yerself. :biggrin:

I do NOT think Westbrook was picked too early or was a bad pick in any way whatsoever. I mean the dude was 2nd team All-NBA at the ripe old age of 23, so how is that bad again? Hell, I considered Westbrook very strongly with my first round pick, but I just couldn't bring myself to pass on Dwayne Wade.

Yeah, I have to confess to being a little bit (or a lot) surprised by all these rumors which are suddenly springing up regarding the Hawks. I see on the ESPN front page there's a blurb to an insider article saying that the Hawks could move either Horford or Smith, and apparently there are rumors out there concerning the possibility of Joe being on the move too. The Josh rumors I'm not that surprised at, because you could kind of see that one coming and even Bill Simmons was predicting several months ago that Josh Smith probably wasn't long for Atlanta. But the Horford and (especially) Joe rumors are a big surprise to me. I was expecting nuttin but a quiet and dull off-season for us, especially while the labor issues are getting resolved, but suddenly things have gotten really interesting, and I did not see that one coming. I'm not sure I'm on board with a big blow-up of the roster, but we'll see what happens.

Well done. I don't necessarily agree with all your thoughts here, but I totally dig the effort you put into picking your best and worst.

Heh, I'm shocked there are three pages worth of argument over Vince Carter, as at this point he is highly marginal at best and will be turning 35 years old in a couple of months. If we could get him for $1M or less on a one year deal to come off the bench, I wouldn't mind that, but anything beyond that though in my opinion would be a foolish waste of money on a player who is aging very rapidly. There are much better bench options out there I think.

Agree. We could really use a 3-point gunner.

I've looked for good basketball sims so we could simulate a season (or preferably seasons), but I have had no luck with finding any. I play a lot of baseball sims, and was hoping for an NBA equivalent to the Sports Mogul or Out of the Park baseball sim games, and I would happily purchase something like that, but I'm just not seeing anything even comparable to that out there. There's also What If Sports, though I know less than nuttin about that. So if anyone has any ideas, suggestions, recommendations or whatever RE: trying to sim this thing out, feel free to give me a shout.

It's pretty cool. I like that font a lot. It reminds me of the font the Rockets use, and in my opinion they've got one of the best and most apt logos in the NBA, paying tribute to the Johnson Space Center and the history of Houston as a city that was integral in the development of the space program. I also like this guy's Munich Warhawks logo. I think that's really cool, however I'm about 99.999999% certain that given the recent history of Germany, no German team would ever adopt a warlike moniker or logo.

Right back at ya, man. Happy Father's Day to all.

Well there are 8 teams so far. What would you recommend, something like 12? It's been a long time since I've played any fantasy football. I'm looking forward to it.

Well given the element of uncertainty and the very real risk that he might walk out of wherever he is traded to at the end of next season anyway, that's probably a fair offer for an unsigned Dwight. However if I was the GM in this case, I wouldn't make the deal unless either Dwight is signed OR I know for an absolute fact and that it is an ironclad certainty that I could sign him to a long term contract. Otherwise, no way. I would not give up trading assets like that for a one year rental player, and it's not like Dwight is gonna suddenly elevate the Warriors into true contention status, because he's not. They've got deeper problems than the lack of a dominant C.

Good points.

Wow. That seems to me to be a pretty low-ball offer for Dwight. It's so early in the process though, you know there will most likely be much better offers and many more teams trying to get involved before it's all said and done.