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    lethalweapon3

    “Ya can’t spell ATL without AL!”

     

    Everywhere around Philips Arena, Tony Ressler looks, and sees opportunity. The majority owner of the Atlanta Hawks is not just another well-heeled rah-rah sports fan. He’s an investor, a private equity expert, a budding master developer. Whether it’s his Hawks or the downtown Atlanta area his team calls home, Ressler takes underperforming assets and strives to make them stronger, and longer-lasting.

    Standing outside the arena, Ressler sees vibrant parkspace, along with under-developed plots and parking lots, bustling hotels and floundering food courts. Then he can turn his attention to The Highlight Factory, site of Game 4 of the Eastern Conference semifinals between the Hawks and the top-seeded Cleveland Cavaliers (3:30 PM Eastern, 92.9 FM in ATL, ABC, postgame on Fox Sports Southeast). Here, Ressler will find that the epicenter of this desired central-city synergy is a palace, but one propped up on pillars of salt.

    To a man, each of the Hawks have professed glee with the opportunity to play NBA basketball in Atlanta, working with a staff that seems committed to their professional development, playing for a team whose prospects for making the playoffs are doubted, for differing reasons, every season, a team that proves their doubters wrong in this regard every time.

    Ressler’s counterpart in Cleveland sees a reinvigorated downtown centered around his Quicken Loans Arena. In Dan Gilbert’s case, the pillar is made of firm marble, but has wheels on its base, and Gilbert has ultimately no control over when that pillar rolls away.

    So instead, Gilbert allows LeBron James to push for the decisions that might keep Cleveland’s palace upright. It means taking your lottery-handed top pick and swapping it for Kevin Love (21 points, 15 rebounds, 5-for-12 3FGs in Cleveland’s 121-108 Game 3 win). It means taking your handpicked head coach and tossing him in mid-season for LeBron’s preferred leader in Tyronn Lue.

    It means extending the payroll in ways that satisfies your superstar player in order to keep him around. It means that while a low-salaried team like Atlanta trades for Knicks like Junior Hardaway, you’re going after J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert. While Atlanta grabs bought-out free agents like Kris Humphries and scarcely uses him, your team grabs Channing Frye (27 points, 7-for-9 3FGs in Game 3) to be a difference-maker in seizing full control of a playoff series. Gilbert does what he can to keep the tent pitched. Ressler’s goal of basketball-team-as-catalyst for economic gains has yet to be realized.

    To achieve his much larger ends, Ressler must discern the just-happy-to-be-here employees from the commitment-to-championship-excellence workers on his payroll. That goes for everybody from the President of Basketball Operations (coincidentally, head coach Mike Budenholzer) to the 15th man on the Hawks roster.

    Although propelled by many moves brought about by ex-GM Danny Ferry, Coach Bud has re-established a measure of legitimacy to the franchise, no matter how questionable his decisions on game-to-game rotations and adjustments have been. Still, Ressler has to look at the POBO, and assess whether Budenholzer’s benefit in this seat has to do more with the head coach’s job security than anything else. If that appears to be true, then a shakeup at the top of the personnel department is in order.

    While LeBron serves as Gilbert’s Terminator, Al Horford (One solitary rebound in 31 minutes of Game 3, as the Hawks are out-boarded 55-28) is Ressler’s Not-Quite-Mad-Enough Max. Whether he returns this summer, or not, are fans going to hear more about salary caps and tax aversions than about the need to add star-quality talent to a competitive core?

    Is Jeff Teague, or Dennis Schröder, an invaluable member of this so-called core? Is Kent Bazemore? Is Paul Millsap ever going to provide a consistently strong effort at playoff time? Kyle Korver’s impact (5-for-9 3FGs in Game 3, but four of those threes in the first half) is fading fast, so who are his replacements beyond Hardaway? Are Marcus Eriksson, Walter Tavares, and Lamar Patterson going to develop into primetime-worthy stars anytime in the next half-decade?

    The Hawks’ players cannot do much more to impress their value upon Ressler going forward, and they can’t worry directly about such matters this afternoon. But they have at least one more chance to display the depth of their desire to win, especially when the world’s attention, and the heat from the Cavaliers’ glare, is placed squarely upon them. A full-court, full-48-minute effort leading to victories in Game 4 and Game 5 would create opportunities for the Hawks’ key contributors to prove they aim to be more than perennial honorable-mention winners.

    Meddling owners are usually bad news for sports franchises, and it is nice to see some stability and professional activity out of the brass. But whether the Atlanta Hawks season concludes after today, Game 5, 6, or 7, the ability to transcend the Hawks from just another NBA team to a championship-quality economic catalyst would require Tony to become a Tiger.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

    ~lw3


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    15 minutes ago, cavsfan said:

    I was at Game 2 in Cleveland.. It looked like the Hawks were in the same defense they did against boston.   leaving 3 point shooters open.  they were so worried about LBJ.  IMO  man up on LBJ  if he scores 40 he scores 40,, take his pass options away.   also hack a Thompson back fired on them.. he hit at least one shot each time they did that..    to me the coaching wasn't very good by Atlanta.   it took him to game three to make any adjustments...  or so it seemed.

     

    anyways go Cavs!

    Well I'd say that's pretty accurate. 

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    27 minutes ago, cavsfan said:

    I was at Game 2 in Cleveland.. It looked like the Hawks were in the same defense they did against boston.   leaving 3 point shooters open.  they were so worried about LBJ.  IMO  man up on LBJ  if he scores 40 he scores 40,, take his pass options away.   also hack a Thompson back fired on them.. he hit at least one shot each time they did that..    to me the coaching wasn't very good by Atlanta.   it took him to game three to make any adjustments...  or so it seemed.

     

    anyways go Cavs!

    I saw adjustments made after every game, but the only one that lessens the problems SOMEWHAT was never come to (it was go big, play straight up defense and live with what happens, and look for early offense). The two changes with game 2 was "let's look to get Korver going early instead of him only taking one shot" (just like last year, BAAAADDDD), and put Bazemore on Love earlier (which requires double teaming).

    I still don't really understand how of all of the lesser of evils things the Hawks could've come to it was "let Love shoot threes". Because 3>2.

    This team is hard wired to help when the man defending the ball handler gets beat, and it wasn't just James and Irving they were getting beat by, an old Richard Jefferson was (along with Shumpert and Dellavedova). If Richard Jefferson is beating you off of the dribble, it's time to significantly upgrade the wings.

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    On 10/05/2016 at 10:20 PM, Hawkmoor said:

    Horford is a better OVERALL player than d12. The problem is THE skillset the Hawks need, rebounding and blocking shots, is the skill that d12 still brings. If the Hawks had him, it would FORCE bud to alter systems to take advantage of d12's skillset.  As long as Horford is on the team, the bigs are gonna stay out in 3 point land.

    In Houston, Harden can pick and pop or roll all day with Horford.

    Oh, I definitely see what Houston would have with Horford on that roster. Alas, I'm no Rockets fan.

    As for our bigs shooting 3s... well, it wasn't that what made us get swept, really. We had problems catching defensive boards, not the offensive ones. See, Channing Frye is a big, Love is a big, and the Cavs needed their triples to win games. I'm not opposed to our bigs shooting 3s (Josh isn't in Atlanta anymore). Coaching lost us games twice, at the very least. Millsap, Horford and Humphries can all shoot the 3 ball, it was on Bud not going big against the Cavs.

    Rebounding wins games, but it is what it is. Cleveland has superb rebounders, we don't. Howard could help solve this. Who knows. I just don't believe we'll be better as a team with him in Horford's place.

    It's up to our coach/GM to solve this mess. It's up to the GM bringing Humphries back so we can go big when we need it. It's up to the GM to draft a big if he feels like it, or to trade for one or to sign someone (hell, it can't be that hard to trade for an Ajinca/Mozgov type). It's up to the coaching staff to develop Tavares.

    This Howard to ATL idea just makes me think of those old threads advocating Horford for Asik straight up.  :bad:

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    1 hour ago, BrazilianHawk said:

    Oh, I definitely see what Houston would have with Horford on that roster. Alas, I'm no Rockets fan.

    As for our bigs shooting 3s... well, it wasn't that what made us get swept, really. We had problems catching defensive boards, not the offensive ones. See, Channing Frye is a big, Love is a big, and the Cavs needed their triples to win games. I'm not opposed to our bigs shooting 3s (Josh isn't in Atlanta anymore). Coaching lost us games twice, at the very least. Millsap, Horford and Humphries can all shoot the 3 ball, it was on Bud not going big against the Cavs.

    Rebounding wins games, but it is what it is. Cleveland has superb rebounders, we don't. Howard could help solve this. Who knows. I just don't believe we'll be better as a team with him in Horford's place.

    It's up to our coach/GM to solve this mess. It's up to the GM bringing Humphries back so we can go big when we need it. It's up to the GM to draft a big if he feels like it, or to trade for one or to sign someone (hell, it can't be that hard to trade for an Ajinca/Mozgov type). It's up to the coaching staff to develop Tavares.

    This Howard to ATL idea just makes me think of those old threads advocating Horford for Asik straight up.  :bad:

    What frustrates me about Bud is the fact that he is taking San Antionio's offense, and NEEDLESSLY extending the plays to the perimeter.  Like ive posted a couple of times, Tim Duncan stays around the paint area at all times.  He will set a pick and stay right there.  Horford will run the same play and Bud will have him set the pick and then float out to 3 point line.

     If the Hawks had d12, it would FORCE Bud to run the exact same plays that San Antonio does, which isnt a bad thing.  D12 would set the pick and stay right there, ready to get any rebounds or dumps back into the paint.  Horford doesnt shoot well enough to validate what Bud is doing. If he was a young Dirk, thats one thing, but he is not.

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    If we need shot blocking, rebounding and size, just trade for Tyson Chandler. Dwight isn't worth any deal over 12 million right now and he's actually underrated outside of the board.

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    8 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

    If we need shot blocking, rebounding and size, just trade for Tyson Chandler. Dwight isn't worth any deal over 12 million right now and he's actually underrated outside of the board.

    I'd prefer that considering Chandler has been a leader everywhere but PHX and he has a rang.

    Still, I'm sticking with my new conspiracy theory of us getting RFA Boban from SA as payment for us giving them the means to get LMA last year.

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    2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

    If we need shot blocking, rebounding and size, just trade for Tyson Chandler. Dwight isn't worth any deal over 12 million right now and he's actually underrated outside of the board.

    Can't  like this enough.

    Tyson is unhappy  in Phoenix and I think  has 3 years left on deal at $13 mil/per.  Trade for Tyson using Splitter (1year left) and filler. Phoenix gets out of Tyson's deal.

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    52 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

    Can't  like this enough.

    Tyson is unhappy  in Phoenix and I think  has 3 years left on deal at $13 mil/per.  Trade for Tyson using Splitter (1year left) and filler. Phoenix gets out of Tyson's deal.

    Yeah I like this head. Tyson is getting old but I'd rather have him than the stiff that is Splitter. We need a center that can board AND block shots. Horford seems capable of only doing one of those.

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    6 hours ago, NBASupes said:

    If we need shot blocking, rebounding and size, just trade for Tyson Chandler. Dwight isn't worth any deal over 12 million right now and he's actually underrated outside of the board.

    Very nice idea indeed.

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    Come on, Hawksquawk posters.  Do the math.  In spite of everything else that happened

    in our last playoff game of the post season, the final score was Cavs 100 \ Hawks 99.

    Check the box score.  I know what happened. I was watching every play and re-play.

    Millsap missed 2 free throws.

    Sefolosha missed his only 2 free throws.

    That adds up to 4 points and Hawks lost by one.  Aren't you proud of me for figuring this out !!!

    Note:  This Saturday night the Dream open their WNBA season.

    GO ATLANTA DREAM !!

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