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I'm not judging Shellhead until after his rookie season. He is the kind of the player that's supposed to be ready out of the box and good to go with his skillset. If he can't play defense/rebound etc as a rookie and its because of athletic ability then that's it. He won't get much better if its physical limitations. I'm hoping he comes out and plays well since he's a Hawk. Some of the posters here who hate certain players (Walt, Diesel) need to realize we actually DO need these guys to play well in order to win a title. Call me crazy but I'd rather eat crow calling Shellhead a bust in the making and being proved WRONG than calling him or Marvin or whoever a bust and being proved RIGHT on some internet message board. But hey, what do I know. Maybe Jesus gives you special cool points on a big chalkboard if you guess a guy is a bust or not that your team drafted.

There was no way ET would have left the Clip show. He's got his last contract for his last two years in the NBA and he's on a team that has a shot. Why spend your last two years on a rebuilding team versus a contender?

Let's be honest here. If Shellhead Williams is a bust or was obviously not the player we thought he would be (BK at least) and Foye and Roy go on to have great rookie seasons this will be a bad decision by Knight. He didn't even work the guy out before drafting him.

Chad Ford, who I might add used to run Sportstalk.com the by FAR worst internet sports rumor site on the net which got bought out and turned into ESPN "Insider" because of the heavy traffick it got, hates Billy Knight. I am not in the slightest a BK fan but he has done some positive things to the team. Ford refuses to acknowledge any of them and simply blasts him. I think Mr. "Insider" thought Billy would open up to him like Babcock used to do (and trust me Petey was chummy with many in the media) and he found instead a stubborn old bulldog who won't reveal any cards in his hands even to fans. BK might be an aloof prick but he's that way to everyone. Chad got his little ESPN feelings hurt and has been anti-Knight ever since then.

To be honest I do like Hollinger. He does the Pro Basketball Prospectus every year and its a truly great read for NBA and NBA players. He's like the Bill James for the NBA. I do disagree completely with him on this trade idea though.

I would not give up Smith for AI. I do not want Iverson on the Hawks. His age, his contract and the fact he needs to hold the ball the entire shotclock and chuck up a ton of shots to be effective all push me away from the table. No thank you.

The Pacers almost dealt Tinsley to Atlanta last week so who knows what they are thinking at this point. I still believe they are waiting until Aug 10 when you can trade rookie contracts. There's no other reason for the deal to be held up like this.

Nope which is a shame, I was a pen and paper roleplayer for many years in the 80's and 90's. From what I heard about DDO it was so not my kind of game: only one city, no crafting, you MUST group in order to do anything, no real world to explore just instanced quests, etc. Not my cup of tea. I like being able to solo or duo (my wife plays MMOs with me) and explore a world and have PVP as an option. PVP is so much more fun and challenging than just beating up Random Orc 312278738 that never changes what it does.

I played WoW until recently. I have played MMORPGs since Ultima Online went live over ten years ago. I played Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot, Shadowbane, Final Fantasy XI, World of Warcraft, City of Heroes...just about every major MMO except Anarchy Online heh. I stopped playing WoW when I got tired of spending all of my freetime stuck in a treadmill just to try and stay competitive with the uber gear whores in PVP. Screw that. I am waiting for Warhammer Online and Age of Conan, mostly Warhammer, which should be much better PVP games. That minus fifty DKP audio clip is hilarious. I remember when that first came out. More dots, more dots, more dots! Hit it like you mean it! lol I still love that one.

I'm not sure what part of "he had no real TEAM" to work with was hard to understand. That entire roster was built of ballhogs or slashers or a token low post player. It was built to sell jerseys not to win games. This year's team is a much more complete TEAM in that it has role players who excel at various aspects of the game and has people who can actually shoot from 18 feet out and not kill you.

Our last Olympic team was poorly put together. We didn't have any "glue" players like a Battier or a defensive specialist like Bowen or ANY kind of shooters like JJ/Hinrich who can just flat out shoot. Instead we had to rely on Richard freaking Jefferson to reliably knock down a 18 foot jump shot because they simply collapsed a zone defense on Duncan when he got the ball or they used zone to stop dribble penetration. That team was put together like a Yahoo fantasy roto league and it showed. This team is already much more complete regardless of what it does. I blame Brown for not even giving the young guys on that team a chance but he didn't have a real team to work with either.

I think Marvin is going to be our #2 guy by the end of the season.

Bring back the Pac Man logo! Nothing has ever been as good as that.

Quote: Maybe you were not a Hawks fan during the Danny Manning Debacle. However, I don't want to repeat it. Magloire looks like a bad situation. Why do you think N.O. would have rather been without a Center than to keep Magloire?? I just think they knew that Magloire was going to bolt... Shouldn't we have the same thought?? Moreover, next year is a big FA year, that means that there will be more FAs but it also means more teams with money. You can't be seriously asking me that question. Look at my sig. I've been a Hawks fan longer than 90% of this board has been alive. I was going to Hawks games with my Dad before Dominique even came out of UGA lol. I remember Danny Manning quite well. That POS assured Babcock he was going to resign with us before we traded 'Nique for him and instead he took a 1 million dollar tender from Phoenix. I did not feel any pity for him when he went on to blow out his ACL in each knee after that. We don't know what Magloire will do as a FA. We would have his Bird rights which at least would make him want to use us in a S&T situation. Personally I'd kill to sign Chris Kaman away from the Clippers in next year's free agency.

We ask for a 2007 first rounder from the Bucks and hopefully could resign Magloire. We will be losing Chill in two years regardless of what else we do in 2007 free agency.

The fact he'll never start in Atlanta will not change in two seasons unless a complete overhaul of our roster takes place.

Quote: Quote: I don't want to trade Smith or Marvin but Chill is definitely the odd man out here in Atlanta. He will never start over JJ or Marvin so why not trade him for a huge hole at center, upgrade at point or a big upgrade at PF? Because there's a chance that Magz will be nothing more than just a one year rental. Whereas Chillz can give us solid production as our sixth man for a few more years. That's why we ask for a 2007 first rounder in case Magloire is a one year rental. We would be getting his Bird rights in a trade which means we'd have the choice to S&T him next offseason for players/picks as well. Chill will not be here beyond his rookie contract. He's too good of a player to accept being a 6th man on a sub 30 win team for the prime of his career. We'll have to S&T him when his rookie deal expires.

Jason Jackson was by far my favorite personality on ESPN. I would stay up late at night with Jaywalker to watch Hawks highlights on "NBA 2 Night" with Jason Jackson. Dude was hilarious and great to watch. The only thing Jason Jackson did was send emails to friends that had some sexual inneundo and out of the blue they fired him. He's working for the Miami Heat as a sideline reporter now.

By far it is Jeff Treadway. I have several things autographed by him. He was high school best friends with one of the owners of the company my father works for and that I worked for years at. I got to meet him and it was a thrill to do that. I still have to wonder what in the blue hell Cox was thinking in putting over Lemke over Treadway. Treadway was only slightly less good of a defensive 2B than Lemke and was far and away a better offensive player. I was a big fan of Glenn Hubbard and Rick Mahler back in the 80's.

Yes, I know that, but if we can value NOW that can help our team win why not do it? Magloire isn't a MVP but he is a former All-star player whose 28 and if he resigned could give us stability for the next seven years at center. Is that so bad?

I don't want to trade Smith or Marvin but Chill is definitely the odd man out here in Atlanta. He will never start over JJ or Marvin so why not trade him for a huge hole at center, upgrade at point or a big upgrade at PF?

I was about to say, where's Gary Trent? Clarence Weatherspoon?

I just have to ask why some of you think Chill would take less money and less playing time to stay on Atlanta when several teams would be after him to be a starter with more money on (probably) better teams. Why exactly would he resign in Atlanta? Any player that's not going to stay in Atlanta needs to be dealt if we can get a good return on value.

I have given up on Chill since we brought JJ on the team. He has no starting role on this team nor will he ever start for us. I believe he'll leave as a FA to start elsewhere. It is only smart to trade a backup player if it means we can fill a glaring hole at center.

The kid is 19,20 years old and is a 6'11" big man who thrives on interior contact. He is manic on defense, rebounding and can finish around the rim. He is exactly the kind of 20-22 year old center you would kill to have on your team. The only weaknesses in his game (besides his youth) would be his horrible free throw shooting and he can't make a jump shot past 10 feet from the basket.