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From what I've heard that post is closer to reality than sarcasm would lead you to believe.

That's nice to hear and I hope you have a great success with your practice. There are some very good quality hospitals, practices and sports medicine clinics here. Also being under two hours to Atlanta is not bad either. I will be talking to Jason this weekend to see if I can grouse some more out of him than I can his old sources about this deal. I will be sure to mention to him that he needs to come back to his old stomping grounds at least to visit.

If it wasn't for much money I'd love to have "Lo Down" back in Atlanta. He was one of mine and Jaywalker's favorite players. The guy gave the effort every night. Winning games actually matters to him. We could do much worse than to bring him back.

Quote: I'm going to invite everyone of you to visit me and tell me that to my face when I'm in Columbus, GA, next June. You'll love Columbus. Great town. I've lived here since 2001 and its a nice place to live.

I'm wondering if it won't be used to try and get Anderson to leave Moscow.

No I believe I read they received another TE with the AJ to Dallas trade that gave them a 2.5 million dollar TE to absorb Edwards salary.

Quote: Last time I checked, you aren't one that is belly aching over not getting Troy Murphy, and you aren't one that is supporting the foolish idea of trading for Samuel Dalembert. Tell me, how does supporting either one of those constitute anything but stupidity? Oh I was not saying that in reference to me. My apologies. I simply meant that while we can all disagree on a particular trade/player/signing we do not have to lower someone's intelligence accordingly due to how much we agree with them. Or not.

Quote: Quote: KB21 no offense but that attitude is insulting. People can actually disagree about basketball issues and still have a good grasp of the NBA. I am mid management in a Fortune 500 insurance company with a duck as a mascot with two degrees in history. I have watched the NBA since my father would take me to watch the Hawks starting at three years of age. I sincerely doubt that I or anyone else here would be "unintelligent" because of a disagreement on an internet message board. Call me crazy though. Is that duck voiced by Gilbert Godfried? Yes but our IT department would swarm down on me quicker than bookstore security guards for stealing a battery if I used the initials for my company. But yes, that is the one.

KB21 no offense but that attitude is insulting. People can actually disagree about basketball issues and still have a good grasp of the NBA. I am mid management in a Fortune 500 insurance company with a duck as a mascot with two degrees in history. I have watched the NBA since my father would take me to watch the Hawks starting at three years of age. I sincerely doubt that I or anyone else here would be "unintelligent" because of a disagreement on an internet message board. Call me crazy though.

You are aware that they traded for Rosho from San Antonio? Why would they sink money into Magloire when they are going to paying a pretty big salary for him at center?

Quote: Quote: I know Billy wouldn't do that. He's avoided taking back contracts and giving out contracts like that during his time as the GM here, and I don't see him starting now. Isiah Thomas would make that deal. Billy Knight won't. You are afraid to spend money. You are waiting for some miracle free agent to come and take our money. You think that all of a sudden Tim Duncan will become a free agent and beg to get our 12 million in salary cap space. It ain't gonna happen. "Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert Parish is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they're going to be gray and old". Couldn' resist.

There's no chance Childress stays on this team past his rookie deal. Someone will offer him enough $$$ and playing time to be their starting SG. We'll probably be in this same situation in two years trying to find a good deal for him in a S&T situation.

Quote: Quote: Well someone had to be the scapegoat. The benching for Steven Hunter is a bad sign, IMO. That is a big red flag. Exactly. The man got replaced by Hunter because Dalembert CAN motor but he does NOT motor as much as he should. Translation: he has laziness issues. Diesel, I understand why you would want him. I wanted the Hawks to sign him as a RFA last offseason. But instead of progressing last season he actually regressed slightly on offense and still has not reached the point where you can say he's your guy in the middle for six years, seven years. He has stone hands which really hurts his offensive contributions and yes, I do hate to say this, always going for a block is not a good thing. Someone has to hold the offensive player's position in the low post and simply contest the shot or make them work for it. If we get him w/o giving up too much, ok, he's our center and we'll try to help his weaknesses. But I don't think it would be a good move.

I know he is an athletic big man. He can motor. He also is a good rebounder. But he has a very low basketball IQ, hands of stone on offense and his footwork is poor. He goes for the block too much and leaves his man to do it. I'm not going to say it would be a franchise crippling mistake to trade for him but he's not worth his contract and at his age he's not going to get better (or smarter) to make him worth that kind of deal. Besides which doesn't he have 5 years left on his contract and we can only take back 4 years?

Boozer? Why would we trade for him? He can't play center and we already have Smith/Shellhead for PF minutes.

Actually Dalembert is not a good defensive player. He is one of those "Block or Posterized" type of centers who has poor footwork and has a very low basketball IQ with hands of stone. I would not go Walter if we got him for a reasonable price but I'd rather have Magloire. If Mags works out for us we can resign him or if he's a bum on the downside of his career we just S&T him or let him walk and keep cap flexibility.

Dalembert has not progressed at all in the last three seasons. He had one playoff series against Detroit where he actually did something, Philly overpaid to keep him, and now they are stuck with him. Stephen Hunter was starting over him last season. No thanks. If he had any kind of basketball IQ I would be interested but I don't see him ever "getting it" to earn his contract.

I agree, I'm not a fan of Dalembert. He has a very low basketball IQ and his playoff series against Detroit two years ago seems to the exeption rather than the rule. He was sitting behind Stephen Hunter last season.

I had forgotten Philly wants to dump Dalembert. Z always seem like he's on the trading block.

With respect to the people throwing out backup center names, it fails to meet the criteria Mullins stated. Someone the fans will recognize as a good player with 3-5 years of being a success in the NBA? Sounds like Magloire to me.

It has to be Magloire. Chris Mihm and Heywood have been backups their entire careers until recently, neither of them are playres fans would consider "good". I can't think of any other center besides Magloire that meets Mullin's qualifications and the fact we can't take back a player with more than 4 years on his contract.

I posted this in the other thread but I'll ask again: Who BESIDES Magloire is a "good big man" that is available or could be available?

Ok let's run with Bernie Mullin's quote. Who BESIDES Magloire is a "good big man" that fans would know AND we have heard/believe is available?

Biedrins just needs to be on a team that will give him minutes. I've seen the kid play, he has tons of potential. I love his aggressive straight to the basket approach and as you can see in the videos he is just manic on rebounding and defense. Why GS doesn't just start him over Foyle is a mystery to me.

If this holdup has nothing to do with a separate trade for Magloire and is just about the Hawks owners wanting money instead of actual talent to help the team win...wow. I've defended the Spirit group religiously in the past but that would be the most shameful act of any Atlanta ownership in city history. Not even the cheap as hell Smith family that used to own the Falcons were that blatant about wanting money over talent. I hope the money is just a smokescreen for a second deal being worked on.