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Does not make sense...who are Nick and JT going to guard ....nobody...that is why we get a good defender to limit the liabilities...that way JT can focus on shooting and scoring which he does best...I think this would more than counter his weakness on defense...Nick thinks he is a 2 anyway...Nick is not a true PG and he is a midget so what is your point. You can't play zone in crunch time in the NBA.... that is when a mini me backcourt will hurt the most.

Alvin is just what we need...he can handle...guard 2s and 1s...and he has a respectable jump shot.

What we need is Alvin Williams & JT.....make it happen Pete!

He is not even the worst defending guard on his team.....meet Dan Dickau.

It is that [censored] playoff promise... he is embarrassed now he wants to blow up the team. I was checking out chad ford chat on ESPN and the first 5 or 6 questions were from fans about to [censored] their pants on the idea of getting our players. It would be hard to watch Reef and Tim Duncan or JT/Kobe Shaq/Hendu rip shyt up ...and the media foaming about how they are great they are and how the weren't being utilized correctly in ATL. Almost makes me wanna throw up.

We are not going to get good draft picks because the teams that want I talent are good teams that want our TALENT because it will make them significantly better. Spurs Lakers Philly get our talent and win... we get [censored]. You can't rebuild when the picks you get back are from 15 to 28 ...that is what is going to happen to us if we do this. The free agents we would be able to sign aren't any better than what we have. Not to mention hiring a coach that actually has NBA experience, we just have no idea what we have until we get a real coach it is that simple. A real coach would tell Babcock what he thinks the team needs, therefore Babcock wouldn't be making dumb ass deals. You think Larry Brown would let anybody trade players he thinks he can win with..[censored] no. We need a coach that can coach and help make basketball decisions if Babcock is still around, because he is an idiot. Pete needs to calm down or they need to fire him today. So we trade Theo for Snow and Skinner...play that for a while see how it works...if it doesn't then the offseason we look at more movement. You don't put together a team...then trade them all away after 1/2 season. If we do that it is going to be a long time before we ever even make it to the playoffs...much less a [censored] championship.

Man, these are the type of offers you get when you cry like a little Biotch, after 40 games and talk about blowing up the team....Babcock sounds desperate so GMs are going to low ball him .....when he should have said we feel we need a G with some size and handling so JT won't have to handle the whole game. Then see what offers we could get. Instead, trade all our talent for cap space...then you have no talent here...no free agents worth [censored] will want to come here...we have no top draft picks...so we will be screwed for the next decade. I hope Babcock has a little more sense than this.

That is BS ..you can't convince me that with some tweeking and a good solid NBA coach the team can't win with this frontcourt. [censored] if the pistons can win with that front court Wallace Cliff and Michael Curry anybody can win. [censored] NJ went to the finals with Kenyon Van Horn and Macc. Milwaukee almost went with Dog, Mason, Ervin Johnson. We need a good coach and a guard like I mentioned before.

Hawks management consists of a bunch of [censored]' idiots. They don't need to give all our talent away for nothing....cap space will just mean we will go after the top free agents...won't get any to sign...then use our money to over pay for 2nd tier players .....then we will be in the same situation. We need to get a guard like Alvin Williams or Snow to play along JT and a coach with experience to coach them....we put talent together...then after for 40 games with two coaches who are suspect at best...we blow the team up because management went and promised the playoffs...[censored] idiots. I hope u all realize that if we had not promised the playoffs...it would be just another rebuilding year...and everyone would be saying that the Hawks have put together a nice core...and they will use this year to gell and develop chemistry ...look for the Hawks to be contenders in the near future. That would be what the media would be saying.. but that playoff promise BS has us giving talent away for nothing! How many of you think if we trade for cap space...we will be able to land a top free agent?

Hawks management consists of a bunch of [censored]' idiots. They don't need to give all our talent away for nothing....cap space will just mean we will go after the top free agents...won't get any to sign...then use our money to over pay for 2nd tier players .....then we will be in the same situation. We need to get a guard like Alvin Williams or Snow to play along JT and a coach with experience to coach them....we put talent together...then after for 40 games with two coaches who are suspect at best...we blow the team up because management went and promised the playoffs...[censored] idiots. I hope u all realize that if we had not promised the playoffs...it would be just another rebuilding year...and everyone would be saying that the Hawks have put together a nice core...and they will use this year to gell and develop chemistry ...look for the Hawks to be contenders in the near future. That would be what the media would be saying.. but that playoff promise BS has us giving talent away for nothing! How many of you think if we trade for cap space...we will be able to land a top free agent?

"An Eastern Conference source said the Raptors may offer the contract of quasi-retired Hakeem Olajuwon, veteran guard Lindsey Hunter and other salary cap ballast to pry away the 29-year-old Ratliff from Atlanta".

Unless they plan on getting a post player from some where that trade sucks.

Nah man, just wanted to know your age, so I know on what level to discuss BBall...sometimes we get kids up here.

He not all about Offense and shooting all the time, can't you see that..we have enough people that want to score we need more hustle defensive type role players.

U r a Drama Queen...you exaggerate way too much..we are talking about one game...I don't think anybody branded him the next John Stockton...I am simply saying that he helped us win last night....because if Dickau would have played the whole second half we would have lost..and probably set a record for TOs. If Wilks is a bum what does that make Dickau...[censored] we need a backup PG in the worse way.

How old r u?

4 TOs ain't [censored] when you handle the ball as much as he did last night....the entire second half he got jumped in the back court and beat the pressure most times picking up at least two fouls on AI in crunch time...watch the game!

So true our PG's should be JT and Wilks..but Babshit won't admit that he is an idiot and trade Dickau. Dickau won't ever be able to play in this league because he can't guard anybody. He is too slow. That is why it is hard for him to stay on the floor or even get on the floor. Diesel may be right, he may trade JT but only because he is an idiot.

I think the idea when u r making a trade is to actually improve the team.

Uhhhh he actually had Ham playng the 2 spot some last night with SAR at the three. Just plain Ugly.

This is the fix all trade. Maybe I need to send this to Pete. Toronto is going crazy of Rafer Alston the have won 2 out of 3 I think with him starting. I figure when Vince comes back. We can make a push on this trade. Toronto deperately needs a center. Atlanta trades: C Nazr Mohammed (3.8 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.1 apg in 11.1 minutes) SF Dion Glover (6.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 17.0 minutes) Atlanta receives: PG Alvin Williams (15.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 35.4 minutes) SG Voshon Lenard (14.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 34.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: +19.2 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +6.5 apg. Toronto trades: PG Alvin Williams (15.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 35.4 minutes) SG Voshon Lenard (14.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 34.0 minutes) Toronto receives: C Nazr Mohammed (3.8 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.1 apg in 14 games) SF Dion Glover (6.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 33 games) Change in team outlook: -19.2 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and -6.5 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

Nope..Dunleavy is too soft...we need some one that is gritty..down and dirty.

Could we afford Miller Dog Reef JT?

All the time, get league pass!