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Holland? Holland is nowhere near a defender. His offensive game is average to me. I wasn’t saying it was either/or

While Ron Holland would be a great offensive potential (Jabari Smith like)... He has a long way to go before he is a defender that is worthwhile. I'd rather have Risacher or Castle if we don't get the high lottery Also, can't deny Reed Sheppard due to the Kentucky product history

The defensive statistic is based on the whole season. Our defense was very good before the trade deadline. The bit about Capela is true but Snell, Solo and Rondo did play a big part in the first half of the season to help the defensive statistic. Granted, we haven't seen any defenders on this roster as good as them besides maybe Kobe (very raw) since then.

If you notice, we substituted defensive players for offensive players.. thats why we went downhill. Kris Dunn Delon Wright Solo Rondo Tony Snell We had the 12th ranked defense that season. That was outrageously different than what we've seen since then. We then were then 21st in defense in 2021-22, then 26th in 22-23, now 28th in defense in 23-24. Our offense is 13th in 2020-2021. 6th in 21-22, 3rd last year, top 5 this year, OUR OFFENSE GOT BETTER AND OUR DEFENSE GOT MUCH WORSE... THAT IS WHY WE LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is so much debate here, this player this, this player that, quin does this, quin does that, traes the problem, dj's the problem... nobody ever gets their head out of the sand and demands why our defense has consistently sucked and why it's not getting fixed.

Preach on brotha

Jarrett Allen is a tremendous defender Which should be the singular focus area of improvement on a dumpster fire defense for 3 years

You have no idea how drastically better we would be adding Herb Jones Jarrett Allen and possibly getting a Marcus Smart or Alex Caruso That would be REAL INTELLIGENT GM'ing around Trae and JJ

What is the reasoning behind leaving Klutch.. so his dad can rep via CAA right?

This is Siakam discussion deja vu……

Based on how the NBA is.. Risacher is who I would take #1 i think the success rate of talented lengthy wings is much higher these days

I 100% agree. We have no dogs that hound teams defensively. we have a team full of players worried about getting their stats.. whether they make it obvious or not.

Oh for sure.. I think either Frenchman is a take. If it's there I would take the better communicator/leader of the two.

I'm thinking to fulfill the irony bucket for all squawkers this is going to be certain. Never has there been a better lottery for Adam to dump off to us peons.

If there is ever a lottery to get #1, it's this one for the Hawks. Would be the most Hawks thing ever.

This could be the beginning of the end of "Heat Culture"

Yet somehow I keep refreshing these pages all the way through it… It all depends on who the market players are.. with Siakam, the market was us Indy and Magic.. What’s the market for Ingram.

I don't think NO will trade Herb Jones as much as we want him.

Exactly.. load defensive studs around JJ and Trae.. Main reason its JJ and Trae is DJM will be needed to get some studs and we definitely shouldn't trade JJ or Trae.

I wonder if the Hawks end up trading DJM for Lauri... Jazz need a PG and with Lauri they aren't getting anywhere. Doesn't solve our defensive issues which is the Hawks FO M.O. right now

It would be a huge win off-season getting Marcus Smart and Mikal Bridges… talk about complete turnaround

Marcus Smart would be a huge win

My guess is they are trying to protect certain markets to get the best possible odds to keep their pick.

In a weak draft like this Matt Ishiba would jump at that

I’m ok with that too.. it better be for a good reason to hang on those guys. Bogi might be the most valuable trade chip of all of them though. Smh JJ Trae and DJ are the best players we have and worth holding onto.. obviously DJ is the valuable one in trades. I would not trade Trae.

All this vague hypothetical talk and I just want to start seeing this roster reconstructed.. I really hope those bozos in the front office are working on it. here are the facts: 1. Squawkers debating salary is useless 2. we suck at defense 3. Trae will stay if we want him to. 4. DJ will stay if we want him. we need some serious roster moves. i hope these players are gone soon.. Dre Capela Bey OO Bogi Meth Bogi