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4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Yep, took a bus from Savannah to Atlanta. I kept looking at the back of Mannings long head on the bench and giving him the squinty eye while just shaking my head.

I believe my first Hawks game was in the 2008 playoffs against the Celtics. Certainly the first one I remember. The Zaza game 7 one. I woulda been 11 or 12. Time flies.

Edit: dunno why it quoted ya Jay

Anthony Davis, come catch some lobs

New Orleans doesn't have Trae so not sure how their rebuild can look better.

1 minute ago, Atlantaholic said:

Oh lookey lookey.... Hawks can play defense this year 

I don't wanna be too much of a debbie downer, but I'm not sure the Pistons can play offense.

I do like the way we look though. Parker is looking nice.

Think he's got something to show, happy we picked him up

15 hours ago, AHF said:

I view Sabonis's demands as a positive.  I don't think anyone is going to want to pay him $100M so if he can go into FA without a deal then that leaves us and our large cap room in great position to swoop in and get him for less than he wants but more than anyone is willing to pay without having to give up a core guy.  If his demands are ridiculous, it could get us a better chance at a test drive level trade as well if the Pacers realize they won't contend this year and won't resign him.  I'd love to get him without having to do a Joe Johnson type of deal where we give up legit assets and then pay him $$$ on top of it.

Sabonis and Collins double drag screens would be a thing of beauty

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Two bigs where both have less than 7ft wingspan would remind us of Sap/Horf and Smoove/Horf but neither have the defensive chops of those guys

This is true, but those teams didn't have Trae, and I think Collins+Sabonis has more offensive upside. I'm not saying go all in on him but I find it VERY intriguing. I think Sabonis can do a lot of the things Horford does offensively as a 5, maybe even better. The defensive gap is wide of course.

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Both can be true but the issue is next season, no one is paying Len more than 5 million per. Sabonis would get core money. 18-20+. That's a significant deal.

I think Sabonis is worth that in a vacuum thanks to his offensive tools. For us? The Collins fit gives me some pause, but if they could be solid enough defensively they would destroy teams inside.

9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Continuing my search for a Center if the Hawks are humming by the trade deadline. Offerings still the same.

Expiring contracts of Chandler Parsons $27 mil (perpetually injured, had something done to both knees in offseason, again), Evan Turner $18 mil (I don't think he's the answer at backup PG) and Allen Crabbe $17 mil (he's rehabbing from knee surgery so hasn't played in preseason).
Available picks - BKN 2020, lottery protected for 3 years, OKC 2022 lottery protected for 2022, then 2 2nds.

 

Tristan Thompson (exp) for Turner and a 2nd - expring for expiring swap. 

Gorgui Dieng (1yr/$17) and lottery protected 1st for 2 years for Allen Crabbe. (Salary dump for Minny)

John Henson and Brandon Knight for Turner and Jones (expirings)

Harry Giles for  BKN and OKC 1sts. Throw in 2nds in needed.

Ibaka and Fred VanVleet for Parsons plus some sweetner (both are FAs so I wouldn't offer much, FVV is looking for a starting spot so I don't think he'll stick around).

This one gave me pause:

Jonas Valanciunas from the Grizz, currently on 3yr/$45 mil declining scale contract $16, $15, $14 mil. We passed on offering Dedmon 3 for $40 so why get JV for more? He is 26, 3 years younger than Dedmon.

Crabbe, BKN and OKC 1sts.

Does his style of play fit what we do?How's his defense?

 

Thoughts??

 

Ibaka is a decent fit, I'd definitely do the Dieng deal.

Sabonis is almost a perfect fit offensively, and I think he can stretch his range to the 3. Think he's a little underrated defensively too. I'd deal, say, Bembry and a pick for him. Nothing crazy.

Fwiw I think he's better defensively than Len

Can't go 2-11 from the line and expect to win much.

Way to play Jabari.

Trae kinda keeping us in this game

Make your freethrow Trae

3 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Young's shot has been missing in action

He should just shoot floaters from the 3 point line.

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

Young's shooting touch is off

But his defensive effort has been consistently great all preseason. He hits his 3 and we're talking bonafide "s" word.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but Hunter can really play.

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

Bruno hasn't been good either

His defense hasn't been great but he looks alright on offense to me.

Len's hands are atrocious.

3 minutes ago, MaceCase said:

Absolutely, but it would also be nice to have a player that despite their immense talents and skills on the court.... that they still get the benefit of the doubt when throwing up some bullshit

I don't wanna use the "s" word, but I think it might describe a couple players on our roster in due time: Damian Jones and Evan Turner.

2 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Better late than never they say

My worry was (and still is) whether he can guard the 4 either. He still has a lot to prove with both.