StonedDogs

Buddy you have a Trae Oklahoma avy so I must have offended you in some way. Sorry.

No it's not a joke. You guys are in denial. Too caught up with the playoffs. A team that barely made it. Few years ago would have missed it. Garland is 2nd year (all star) who led a team that was top 4 majority of season until injuries. Hawks barely escaped them to even get in. Pistons were led by a rookie who cooked the Hawks and held Trae in check being a last place team. You don't have to build to your teams strengths around them they add attributes to their teammates. Hunter here is talking about he needs touches. Collins complained as well. Reddish complained. Bazemore would drop his head on a Trae 30 footer. I'm a huge Hawks fan but you have to be real with yourself. This team is in shambles trying to find the right pieces defensively and offensively play with a liability on defense, shoot first pg. That's not good. You can't win a championship that way. Players numbers should go up with a good point guard not down.

All this for a 5"11" 165lbs, Curry wannabe chucker pg who can not play defense, who has no lines in State Farm commercials with an old school, stubborn coach who was an assistant to an assistant defensive coach on a team in the "process" for 5 years. Sure Hawks, have it. Meanwhile Cavs are trending up with Garland. Pistons are trending up with Cunningham. True, young, floor generals

I just don't know brother. Dre Hunter plays slow, Capela can only score on alley oops. Can he really create his own shot? Even with a healthy JC, Can he really hold his own against bigs? I can see Luka backing him down and scoring any time on him. Can Heurter be consistent in a playoff series? Can Nate out scheme a good coach with all stars? Can Trae Young play defense close to how Curry played tonight? Dallas took out the Jazz and the #1 team in the NBA. They were top 5 in the league. I dont think a healthy Hawks could take out a healthy playoff Dallas.

The later it gets into the playoffs you see teams play faster, tougher, strict defense. The Hawks style of play, the coach, and Trae currently cannot hang with these four teams left. With Trae you're playing 4 vs 5 on defense and that's not gonna cut it

Ben needs a heart transplant. Nope, he's not a dog. Hawks need a dog. Someone to get up in Trae space when he bricks a 30 footer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock

Agreed, it's just a shame this dude never got the chance to develop this year. I cannot understand this Front office and the coaching decisions

OP I just think that lineup is too slow for today's NBA. The league is fast and uptempo. The Hawks need to run and push the ball. Kyle Anderson is not it. Trae is already a ball dominant PG under Nate system. He doesn't move like other guards off ball to get open. He just stands there. John Collins can barely create his own shot. Against bigs, he's worthless unless Trae gets him an alley oop. Rudy Gobert is slow. Dre Hunter finally figured out how to score. Drive and get to the line. He's the only bright spot if he stays healthy. I just don't believe in a Trae led team with a assistant coach such a Nate who cannot develop young talent

You don't think Spo would have prepared for Clint? Having Clint would have maybe given you one game. Ok you lost in 6 games in the first round. Nate is not a good coach man. What would you grade Nate in this first full season? In my book he's no greater than Pierce. Again, he's an assistant coach for a reason. He's had his chances and this playoffs showed. Does he develop players? Perhaps he could have had a Clint replacement or better if he could develop and maximize his players on the bench.

Nate was outcoached. Spo worked Nate team with older, slower, bench players. Nate doesn't even know how to use his bench. Hawks got fleeced from last year act. That's all on GM. There's a reason Nate playoff record is what it is. There's a reason Nate was an assistant coach and that's what he came to accept. He was an assistant coach to a backup assistant coach. If you want the potential to become a head coach come to Atlanta. But if you're a young player (rookie) pray you don't get chosen by Atlanta

The problem will always remain with the coach. If that team was assembled it still wouldn't matter because Nate has no offensive plays or strategy. And he's too old school. Trae still can't play defense so it's 4 vs 5 Trae still shoots 30 footers like Josh Smith shoots three's. Coaching lets him. And finally the Hawks just don't run with Trae. They'll get a defensive rebound, give it to Trae and run whatever same play they run all game. Look for alley oop, not there, pass to Heurter, he doesn't want to score. Finally Trae from the logo for the love of God. I hate how this team is ran. Sorry for rant

Too be fair, all nba players can shoot in practice. Even the ones who never see playtime. Ben Simmons empty gym jumpers look great as well

I will admit I am a jazz fan and people out here finally got a chance to see the Hawks. I personally watched their series from game 2 of Philly throughout the Bucks. They're exciting to watch no doubt about it and I think the country was pulling for them. I've seen a lot of Capela through the years and seeing Collins for the 1st time in that atmosphere, he just didn't look good imo. Shoots too many threes, can't produce his own shot and looked awful against bigs. But you guys know your team and your needs. I really liked Cam Reddish, that guy looks better pro than at Duke. You may have a steal. I've only seen Hunter in the Virginia/TT championship game. I just still think Hawks would have lost either way. I'm not a Trae hater but I listened to game two vs Milwaukee through headphones and twice I heard ppl from the crowd yell, "Keep shooting Trae!" Those 35 footers killed you guys and are a bit unnecessary so often.

A healthy Hawks vs a healthy Bucks. Bucks are pulling off the win because Collins and Capela were defensive liabilities, they were too small, couldn't rebound, Collins would shrink. Also Trae doesn't play defense so the defense breaks down on Trae leading to anyone wide open. On top of Trae poor ill-advised threes at the wrong time. He can't help it. Chris Paul is a true floor general. Morant is a floor general. Curry is under control with his shot selection. Trae and the young Hawks have to learn collective defense, rebounding and proper ball movement. Playoffs exposed all of it

That's one of your problems. But playoff teams can gameplan against Cam and Hunter. Trae cannot play a lick of defense because he's just too light so the team is always playing 4 on 5. You need a good quality center to make up for Trae. Capela and Collins will not get you pass a healthy Nets and still the Bucks with a healthy Dante D. Capela and Collins got exposed for their size and toughness

You gotta understand that Trae plays with all stars during the summer. Every week he's in a different gym going against talent, playing with good talent joining pick up games and training. No one on this team beside him work that hard off season. Once the nba slowed down for him, he knew he was the best player on this team. You gotta be honest, Pierce isn't the guy to help Trae get to almost unstoppable in this league. Trae coach is his trainer right now. Hawks dont run any good offensive sets that throws teams off guard. Young is out there creating and breaking down defenses

This team just isn't built for todays nba playoffs