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Here’s a random one. Andrew Wiggins. IF the warriors are looking to shed salary - Add a FRP and take Wiggins into the TPE. Would make sense particularly if we moved murray + Hunter for Kat I guess. Still not sure I like kat, but rumors are rumors. if we did get Wiggins & kat - we’d have a trae - Wiggins - kat core locked up for the next 4 years. Add 3&d guys at the 2/4, and that could be an interesting lineup.

Bad defense and all, in the regular season a lineup with Trae - Bogi - Aj was a +7.2 net rating according to NBA.com. Good for 7th out of all 3 man Hawks lineup combos that played > 25 games together. Without any development … that is still an effective pairing. Throw in better coaching and AJ not being a 19 year old rookie??? Cmon man!! not going down this rabbit hole again - I’ll see myself out. Bonus before I go. Using the same database. Young - Johnson - okongwu has the 2nd best 3 man rating (25+ games played together) at 12.9. I am very excited and high on the development of our youth - particularly under Snyder.

I think I hold on to what could be more than I should. Still love me the idea of Ben Simmons.

i Feel like it’s going to be challenging to find anyone with much value that we’d be able to acquire for more than the TPE and some kind of light draft (SRP) compensation. Not sure the magic want to swing this, but I’d love to take a look at Jonathan Isaac if the magic are looking to move on. If he gets right? Not sure there is a better fit next to OO. If not? He is non guaranteed next year and could be a useful trade piece at the all star break. Taurean prince would also be of interest.

But aren’t we able to take back more given the $25M TPE? So it’d be $23.2M + $25M? Or can the $25 not be combined with other player salary?

Completely agreed. My comment was just around body composition + shooting ability is similar to bane coming out. Being able to create for himself/others is what made bane a much better prospect (probably a little better athlete too). With that said - bane still was drafted end of R1… likely for the reason @Spud2niquementioned (+ age). didnt intend to come off as he was bane 2.0. Just his full game reminds me of a part of bane. Useful player = 9th or 10th man type if he hits his ceiling imo. Still really good for pick 46.

Has a frame very similar to Desmond Bane, but Lundy has + wingspan. Off ball / shooting is similar to Bane coming out. Has limited playmaking to his name unlike Bane (maybe that's a result of the offense he played in?). If he can work on his body & gain a little explosiveness, he certainly has a chance to stick and be a useful player.

Any thing stand out to anyone on this list -> Which NCAA Prospects Get to the Rim the Most? https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/which-ncaa-prospects-get-to-the-rim

I wonder if the long term vision is for him to fill the Jordan Clarkson role from Snyders time in Utah, and not be a starter? Some overlap in skill set.

garrison Mathews! For some reason I thought they called him that in Houston. Maybe I dreamed it lol

I assume this signals Gary Bird is getting cut or traded.

Time for bed. Take Chris Castleton at 46 and call it a day!

This feels like Murray insurance.

Whitmore or Bufkin or who else were we connected to?

Tonight’s Prediction: DH + 15 for 7 + Jalen Smith we draft Ausar Thompson Capela gets traded for a future FRP and K Martin Jr.

Man. Watching Murray join Banchero in Orlando would be hilarious.

With rumors about a hawks trade up. I wonder if there is any interest in a guy like Ausur Thompson. He (and Amen) is a very polarizing prospect, but his athleticism + size would pair nicely next to trae. what are your thoughts on him? Any info on if we even brought him or maybe a whitmore in for a workout?

That’s strange. That implies someone somewhere wants AJ to get more minutes at the 3 given the 2 spot is pretty much locked up between Murray and Bogi.

I thoroughly enjoy the spastic responses when someone disagrees with you. When did I say that age is the only difference between the 2? I said the gap will narrow in time. And yes. The gap will narrow. That’s a nice strawman argument for Bruno/Clint, but nowhere close to apples to apples. Griffin came out of college after a single season. Hunter had 3 to learn the game. He’s 19 still learning the nuance of the game. He will never be a defensive stopper. I never said he would. But to expect him to not be better than he is today is silly. Or maybe some posters on this site don’t understand player development. and when his defense gets to average. His offense will be far more impactful to the team. And thus the total package is more valuable to me. And just to get you really riled up. for such a shit defensive player. when AJ is on the court with trae at the 3 - we gave up 111.5 pts/100. With Dre we gave up 113.9. And Bey? 116.2. and for the record. I’m a big Deandre fan.

Hate away, but maybe add some context if you want to disagree. Griffin is more 3/2 and Hunter is 3/4. With that said ... 1) Hunter is better, more versatile defender. I expect that out of a 25 year old in his 4th NBA season compared to a 19 year old rookie. Do I expect that gap to narrow by the time AJ is in his 4th year? Absolutely. 2) Griffin played far more minutes at the 3 his rookie season. You really think that's going to change? 3) Griffin is a better offensive fit with Trae. 4) Statistically (I understand they had very different roles), but AJ was a more impactful player - as a rookie. I'm not a proponent that AJ Griffin should start next year over Hunter. But long term, I'm keeping AJ before Hunter.

I see him as the future 3. I may have said it before, but outside of Trae - he would be my only other untouchable. The Trae + AJ pairing is going to be a problem for the league in the future. As a reference coming out of college (Hunter was nearly 3 years older) [Hunter / Griffin below]: Height: 6'7" / 6'6" Wingspan: 7'2" / 7'0" Weight: 223 / 222 Athletically, I don't think AJ has the lateral agility to be a 2 long term either.

I was all in on Siakam 3 years ago. And even again last year. But given what is rumored to still be a ridiculous asking price for an expiring Siakam. No thanks. I don’t want to gut the team to have the honor to pay a 29 year old Siakam 45M or 50M+ for the next 4 years.

I could see this list. At 15 I think our top choice has to be Leonard Miller.

I have also discussed trading #46 this year for Jokic. Those talks also have not progressed. silly season is here!!!