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6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I don't see Mavs giving up 2 shooters in THJr and Green for all non shooters. Mathews instead of Bruno/Vit on the flip side isn't Minny good on guards/wings?

I agree with subbing Mathews for Vit. I wasn’t too concerned about the fillers when I threw this together. 

2 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

From the Wolves point of view this is a bad trade. If it's this obvious, then it's a head scratcher and I put it in the category of fan fiction. Mavs would love this and Hawks would love this but the seller is the one that has to be convinced and that typically is fan fiction.

I mean it’s not great like the Gobert or Mitchel trade was for Utah last summer but teams aren’t making that mistake again. And compound that with KAT’s contract and this might be the best they can do to get out of cap hell.

Some cap relief, 2 young promising players, and 2 FRP’s.

2 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

The point is cap relief if I’m the Wolves. That’s the first requirement. After that it’s picks to put on Ants timeline and to recoup from Gobert trade. This is the best time to recoup picks… via KAT.

They want cap relief and picks or else they’re stupid.

Like they have to take some salary back and this saves them $9M and then they can dump TH Jr later. 

Just now, theheroatl said:

I severely doubt the wolves would say yes to taking on THJ

They’re going to have to take on some kind of salary to make this work. 

TH Jr can play and becomes an expiring next summer that they’ll be able to move if not sooner at the deadline.

3 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Interesting.  The Hawks apparently wanted him in the draft day deal.  Curious to see if Green will be coming to the Hawks or going to the Timberwolves.  

I could see to the T Wolves with Bey which saves us JJ. Not sure who sends out the 2nd FRP in this situation.

6 minutes ago, Sothron said:

We can still move Capela or Bogi together or in a separate deal to make things work. We have the KAT main details agreed upon it is the 3rd/4th teams that are the hold up. 

Bogi’s not until September. What’s the rules for including Gay in a trade? We have to wait 2 months?

10 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

And right on cue lol I still think the trade target is Siakam and eventually Toronto relents.

Doesn’t matter if Siakam is steadfast on night resigning here. 

Like them both...a lot.

But I don't know if I see JJ / OO working long-term in the frontcourt and we need OO for Giannis duty.

We also need shooters around Trae with neither DJM or OO excelling at that. AJ fits better to build around Trae and OO in my opinion. 

Rumor is Bey + JJ and 2 firsts. Cap to a 3rd team. Gay to make salaries match if combined with the JC trade.

This is how I understand the rumor at least.

Put a fork in it.

Even if nothing else big happens this summer, it's pretty clear our front office wants a 3rd superstar and when one becomes available, we are well positioned with young talent to be at the front of that line.

3 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Can't figure out where the extra pick will come from to grease this for wolves.

JJ to Minny as well. 
2 picks - 1 FRP from ATL and one from the 3rd team who gets Cap.

I think we’d be okay at Center with a rotation of -

OO / Garuba / Bruno

KAT can play some backup 5 as well like we do Murray at point. 

Definitely need another Forward though.

Just now, Spud2nique said:

@Sothron oh myyy… I didn’t even think of 2K..

Trae KAT and DM would be nuts in that game. Let’s face it, 2K leans towards rewarding offense, that’s one of the ultimate offenses in the league right there…

Defense.. I dunno.

Create a Nique my player build and you literally get Trae, DJM, Nique, KAT, OO

PG - Trae / Kobe / TyTy

SG - Murray / Bogi / Mathews

SF - Hunter / Griffin

PF - KAT / Garuba / Gueye

C - OO / Bruno

Is Capela on his way to a 3rd team?

So we’d be out Cap, Bey, JJ, Rudy, FRP.

3rd team is out a salary filler + FRP (pick to Minny) and 3rd team gets Cap.

Is this essentially the framework?

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

The guy couldn't even win with Jimmy Butler for God sake...let these bad team all star stay on their bad teams to keep their teams bad!

KAT was only 22 and Jimmy wasn't playing like Himmy at that time.

Just now, DS5 said:

Marcus Smart is not nothing. Not sure what we would have had to give up. 

They were literally about to get him for nothing until Brogdon failed his physical. 

I'm on board for KAT. If we can keep OO and 1 of Bey/Hunter, our starting 5 is legit.

BUT...all I'm gonna say...and I can't guarantee this is the last time I'm gonna say it.... but we could have had KP and traded away no one from our core and only had to pay him $30M vs KAT at over $50M and probably losing Bey and JJ.

There. I said my peace. 

12 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

3. Dallas was going to get KAT if available till Atlanta stepped up their offer. I was told Green, Kleber, Bullock, and McGee to a 3th team w/ two 1sts. 

4. Atlanta initial offer was Hunter/Capela and two 1sts for KAT. I was told Minnesota wasn't interested in Hunter or Capela and liked Dallas deal more. Seems like Minnesota got more serious of late and so did Atlanta. They refused at first to trade JJ or any of the kids. They also didn't want to move Bey either. Seems like the interest was all in on Siakam.

Could also add Bey here if that's who they really want and money would still work.

2 minutes ago, KB21 said:

KAT can’t guard a chair, so OO is gonna have to be all nba level defensively 

OO was top 10 in blocks off the bench last season so I don't think that is out of the question. 

3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

KAT's contract:

23-24 $36,000,000

24-25 $50,000,000

25-26 $54,000,000

26-27 $58,000,000

27-28 $62,000,000

I mean...it's not my money, but oof. That's a lot.