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4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

So you think this will be a championship roster?

Assuming we lose Bey, Cap and picks -

Trae / Mills / Kobe
DJM / Bogi
Hunter / AJ
KAT / JJ / Gueye
OO / Bruno

Yes. We can absolutely win a championship with this roster.

We just saw Jimmy carry a bunch of undrafted players to the finals.

I'm not worried about KAT's salary...even though it honestly isn't great.

We'd be consolidating JC's $25M and Cap's $20M with DJM taking about $10M less. That's $55M in savings.

And KAT is a significant upgrade.

1 minute ago, marco102 said:

It's the only reason I support this as well. KAT in that lineup makes everything work.

Yup and not many teams will be able to stop an offense of -

Trae / DJM / Hunter / KAT / OO

If we're building around Trae / DJM / OO .... which it really seems like we are. KAT makes more sense for this roster than JB.

And this is coming from one of the bigger JB fans on this board.

Our defense will be fine if Trae plays like he did when Quin got here and DJM, Hunter, and OO all play like we know they can play on that end.

I also remember someone breaking the Capela trade on here days before it happened. 

42 minutes ago, Diesel said:

This is sad to me...

Those jerseys are sad.

15 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

On Jaylen,

I love the dude, he’s prolly a top 10 player in the league

17 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Ya this is too rich for me. OO and AJ are gonna be special. I honestly can’t hand them over to the C’s voluntarily. 

You wouldn’t trade OO and AJ for a top 10 player in the league? That’s wild bro.

11 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

KAT is great.. to me Jaylen Brown is better.

I agree and I wouldn’t hesitate to bring JB here. I would trade anybody and everybody other than Trae. You do that for young, all-NBA talent.

I’d imagine Boston would want Bey, AJ, and OO as the young players plus a pick or 2. OO fits well with KP and Bey replaces JB in the starting 5.

Trae / DJM / Brown / JJ / Cap is a really good starting 5. But I don’t know if that’s better than -

Trae / DJM / Hunter / KAT / OO

I’d be happy with either of these scenarios. I want to win now and both of these are win-now moves. Go Hawks!!!

2 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

That's true but there are a lot more dynamics than that. If JB signs a supermax today I guess we'll find out. I think he needs to sign today or else stuff starts getting weird. 

For sure. The longer they go without getting an extension done, the higher eyebrows will be raised.

Everyone knows the number…it’s THE max. So what’s taking so long?

11 minutes ago, JTB said:

I believe we can get KAT in a trade. Usually I’m not as optimistic but I can see this one actually happening. There’s just a lot that lines up in our favor for once.

I agree. DJM taking less and a year early leads me to believe they have a deal in the pipeline. 

16 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Also, Celtics are in no ay desiring to send him to an eastern conference team with comparable packages. If anything they might sign and trade him for Lillard.

Are you paying attention to superstars in the NBA right now? If they don’t want to play for team A, they won’t.

Dame has been a key part of that franchise for more than a decade. Probably has a nice mansion there, family is probably rooted in that community, and even he’s like get me out of here.

Why would Jaylen Brown want any part of that? He’ll just veto any trade to a team he doesn’t want to be a part of.

Dallas seems like the most likely 3rd team for Capela. The fanbase is calling for one.

110K followers by the way.

I don’t think the trade can happen without us finding a 3rd team. 

Minny isn’t going to take Cap back. Bogi can’t be traded until September. The salaries just don’t work without one of them being included. 

Need a 3rd team for Cap.

Edit - to add, Supes original rumor specifically said Minny doesn’t want Dre.

3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

We could swing a deal :

Minny gets: Hunter/Bey/JJ/Mills

ATL gets: KAT

salaries match perfectly.  

@JayBirdHawk there a problem with this trade as far as the cap?

We gotta keep one of Dre / Bey

There does seem to be an unusually high amount of chatter on JB today on Twitter.

1 minute ago, Hawkish said:

I never suggested we don’t win now.  Attempting to win now does not have to handicap your future.  Dallas should be giving up the pick. If I were Minnesota’s GM, I’d take that deal and run. 

Losing AJ, JJ, and OO would be handicapping our future. I don't consider losing Bey and a couple firsts that will be in the twenties handicapping our future.

1 minute ago, Hawkish said:

Please, no.  KAT is not the long-term play.

Correct, but he's the win-now play which is what we should be doing.

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I don't see Mavs giving up 2 shooters in THJr and Green for all non shooters. Mathews instead of Bruno/Vit on the flip side isn't Minny good on guards/wings?

I agree with subbing Mathews for Vit. I wasn’t too concerned about the fillers when I threw this together. 

2 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

From the Wolves point of view this is a bad trade. If it's this obvious, then it's a head scratcher and I put it in the category of fan fiction. Mavs would love this and Hawks would love this but the seller is the one that has to be convinced and that typically is fan fiction.

I mean it’s not great like the Gobert or Mitchel trade was for Utah last summer but teams aren’t making that mistake again. And compound that with KAT’s contract and this might be the best they can do to get out of cap hell.

Some cap relief, 2 young promising players, and 2 FRP’s.

2 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

The point is cap relief if I’m the Wolves. That’s the first requirement. After that it’s picks to put on Ants timeline and to recoup from Gobert trade. This is the best time to recoup picks… via KAT.

They want cap relief and picks or else they’re stupid.

Like they have to take some salary back and this saves them $9M and then they can dump TH Jr later. 

Just now, theheroatl said:

I severely doubt the wolves would say yes to taking on THJ

They’re going to have to take on some kind of salary to make this work. 

TH Jr can play and becomes an expiring next summer that they’ll be able to move if not sooner at the deadline.