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1 minute ago, terrell said:
Nah draft a young PG like Reed Shephard or Dillingham and a new center with Kings pick to go with JJ Gueye Kobe ...
Shephard Bufkin JJ Gueye New center would be way more fun team to watch that ugly shit you just posted.. lol
We could literally have all of that + Trae Young. What are we even doing in this thread? lol
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5 minutes ago, terrell said:Its unwatchable now.. lol
It can be worse my friend....so so so much worse:
This is what peak tanking looks like for those calling for it. Be careful what you wish for.
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We keep Trae because of 27/10 and Ressler needs to sell tickets.
DJM for Ingram + picks seems realistic and could help both teams.
But my preferences would be Mikal Bridges, Jaylen Brown, or Herb Jones....just don't see any of those 3 being traded.
For double extra credit, I'd draft Dalton Knecht.
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1 hour ago, Mikey said:
Bogi can't start in a backcourt with trae. The would need daniels to start for POA defense and to preserve bogi health
I'd argue our most successful backcourt was Trae / Bogi / Huerter
Max Spacing
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This only works if you trade Trae to SAS for our picks + assets. Otherwise, we’re just tanking for their sake.
I’m not ready to give up on Trae. Not easy to find 27/10 players and I’m not going to just assume we luck into another superstar in the draft. We’re more likely to find another Sheldon or Marv Williams. Also not ready for years of unwatchable basketball.
I think we trade DJM this summer and make a final run at this with Trae and Quin. Find some better fits and run this back until our debt to the Spurs is paid.
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Hoping the pick just conveys this year so we can stop worrying about it.
I get the argument about it being a weak draft, but getting the #15/16 pick is probably the best case outcome when those protections were announced. Y'all really want to risk waiting until next year for the small chance it conveys at 13/14 or 11/12/13/14 the next year?
Sacramento is one injury to Fox or Sabonis away from sucking in a stacked Western conference. Just get the pick now
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I don’t think BI has played at all in the 4th of this play-in game. Zion is out hurt too and BI is still riding the bench. Yikes.
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Was going to say Treadmill bc we’re in the play-in year after year after year…but it’s worse than that.
I looked at our record and we’ve gone from 43 wins to 41 to now 36 wins over the past 3 seasons. This team is literally regressing. But I guess that’s what happens when you turn key players into picks that aren’t transferring and cap space.
REGRESSION
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4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:
I got blockbuster trade updates. Three including Atlanta.
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Going on record for how much I hate the NBA for not letting ATL get either Dwight or Ant in the lottery.
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7 hours ago, NBASupes said:
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Simple Scouting Report on Zach Edey:
Offensive Player Type:
- Original: A big player who excels in movement rim finishing with a hint of post-up quality.
- Future: A big player who excels in movement rim finishing with elements of post-up and catch & shoot (C&S) qualities.
New Analysis:
- Current: An elite garbageman with freakish athleticism for his size, possessing superior mental attributes and exceptional physical measurements. However, his fluidity limits his offensive potential when he has ball possession. He has superior movement skills and can execute high-level rolls. Elite Screener. His post-up play is limited unless he secures significant positioning in the low post.
- Future: An elite garbageman with freakish athleticism for his size, possessing superior mental attributes and exceptional physical measurements. His fluidity, however, limits his offensive potential when he has ball possession. He has superior movement skills and can execute high-level rolls. Elite Screener. His post-up play is limited unless he secures significant positioning in the low-post, with potential for catch and shoot.
NBA Comparisons: He doesn’t have any direct comparisons.
Weakness Comparison: Edy Tavares - Only Edy and Edey have exhibited poor fluidity as NBA players entering the league. While Edy is a good athlete for his size, Edey is a freakish athlete for his size.
Offense - Favorable Comparison: Karl Malone, albeit with differences. Neither player was anticipated to produce offensively at an exceptionally high level. Both possess tremendous strength, superior movement, and relentless energy. Neither has a particularly strong post-game, with most of their work done before receiving the ball. Malone is more fluid and uses agility a lot, but Edey is much larger and uses brute force for positioning and his mental acuity for his success as a low-post scorer. Both are elite screeners and have a terrific feel for rolling off the PnR. Both qualify as spammers in how they score. Doesn't seem like they are really good but the production is there. This is not by mistake. This is what being relentless and having a high motor looks like and their passion is scoring.
Both players can be seen as garbagemen, but unlike Horford, who is also a garbageman, both possess an elite scoring mentality as their primary focus. Malone has clear advantages such as transition offense and a proven 15ft jumper from his time at LA Tech. Despite unimpressive college stats in his junior season which got worse each year, Malone had no spacing at LA Tech, and teams sold out to guard him in the paint. Edey, on the other hand, has the size advantage and superior basketball IQ. He generally adapts far more quickly to defensive strategies than Malone.
Defense Comparison - Favorable Comparison: A less effective version of Rudy Gobert. He can protect the rim and paint like Rudy and boxes out better than Rudy. However, his poor fluidity is a significant drawback. His close-outs, switches, and rebounding radius are all subpar. He has a mental advantage and is older than Gobert as a prospect, but he doesn’t have the same upside as Rudy. Both are drop defenders, which may limit the teams interested in them as prospects. I’ve talked to one scout and listened to another who thinks Edey’s best NBA strength is on defense based on their review of the tape. This was the comparison both gave me.
Offensive Comparison - Less Favorable: It’s challenging to find a direct comparison. Most basketball players don’t exhibit the same combination of mental strength, movement skills, and finishing ability. When you consider body control, hand skills, and strength, Luis Scola comes to mind as the closest comparison. However, Scola lacks the athletic prowess that Edey possesses for his size.
Defensive Comparison - Less Favorable: The comparison here is straightforward - Edy Tavares, but a wealthy man’s version. Despite fluidity being the issue, he still possesses elite mental acuity and is more athletic than Edy, with an additional 60 pounds as a prospect. This might still be a poor man’s version of Rudy Gobert, so it’s unclear how this is less favorable. The outcome remains the same.
Good write up. Admittedly, I haven’t watched much college basketball this year. But I’ll watch his tournament games for sure now.
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Draft: Sarr
FA: DeRozan
Trade: Lauri (DJM and OO, out)
Trae, DeRozan, JJ, Lauri, Sarr
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Get Mo G. healthy and down there too and this will be must-see tv as a Hawks fan.
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HawkSquawk favorite to the Heat:
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Idk man....not sure he'll still be there when we finally pick late in the 2nd round
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I have 0 issue with us keeping DJM if the value wasn't there...none.
My issue is this middle of the road path we continue to be on by:
1) Not brining in guys to improve the roster
2) Actively trading away guys to avoid LT consequencesSo here at the deadline, we don't do anything to get better. But we also don't do anything to get worse. Okay...so we're stuck in this middle of the road purgatory in the last year of us controlling our own FRP.
Just my 2 cents...
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6 minutes ago, Sothron said:They are offering us CJ and JV and two picks
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Murphy + Jones + figure out how to reroute Claxton to us from BKN and I'd consider...maybe...DJM and OO.
Maybe...
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4 minutes ago, Sothron said:
Pelicans are trying to get both Murray and OO without giving up Zion or Ingram. I don't know how they think they can do that.
Delusion.
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Grimes is gone. Should kill that DJM to NY bs trade we keep hearing about.
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Gonna go out on a limb and say there's a negative chance of us trading OO unless we have a plan locked in for our Center of the future.
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1 minute ago, NBASupes said:
He doesn't fit our style of play.
Well we’re 22-29 so maybe that’s not a bad thing.
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Tried to tell y’all about Porzingis over the summer.
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6 minutes ago, theheroatl said:
Send us JJJ and Marcus for DJM and Capela
Would solve all of our defensive issues over night lol
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It was just a dumb trade to begin with. We’ve gotten nothing out of that trade that’s helped us the past 2 years now going on 3. With all the injuries we’ve had, Kev would have been huge for this team.
We’re not a serious franchise.