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1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

I don't cosign the Trae hate. 

As ever, folks here forgetting wandering in the wilderness without an actual allNBA caliber guy.  They have one now so they forget how hard it is to get and keep one. 

39 minutes ago, terrell said:

Trae wants who?

Trade his ass to Utah then. Smfh

The Hawks are trying their best to lose me as a fan if this shit is true..... Good grief...

Trae don't want Collins back.  Cmon, terr-elmo. 

7 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I keep forgetting that this is a fan base who believes you have to be 7 foot and 300 plus pounds to be a real center.  

This isn't true. 

5 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

Well probable you all have a plan that can build a contender un 2 years before Trae contract is over. Please tell me which realistic plan makes us a contender. When I say realistic is trades that other team could really do, not pipe dreams. I honestly cannot see any.

It's not that hard.  And it's not about major trades.  We have, and always had, some gaping holes that can be filled.

Heck, having Vit for a full year could make a tangible difference.  We're not that far away. 

31 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

Which is fine for me, there is no way we can get a roster in 2 years that is capable to win with Trae as PG

This is false.  Congrats on finding something @NBASupes and I agree on. 

30 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Careful, you’re going to get @AHF all riled up. 

Riled up?  Is he ever riled down? 

38 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

First post from my 2025 8-ball ... we'll all look back at this moment when SAC disappoints early and fires Brown.

Like, if there was even the chance that you wanna fire the guy, why sign him to an extension.  Basically putting yourself on the hook to pay more empty money.  Don't be Detroit. 

13 minutes ago, deester11 said:

All you need is nba2k and a joystick that doesn't drift and you too can be a GM! Just ask Nick.

Nick: "Guys, I'm crushin' myGm mode this season!"

 Nick, thats not real, brah.

16 minutes ago, deester11 said:

That's cool Supes but I'm not a believer in that from him.  Or at least defensively I'll bet on Sarr long term before him. 

Stand your ground, dees.  Have him name another wing with meager wingspan that is considered to have high potential as a POA defender.

5 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Trading back to #2 doesn't even pass the sniff test if you’re the Wizards.  There is no consensus #1 pick like last year so this trade means you have to convince WAS that we would pick Sarr instead of the guy we actually want (Risacher) with the number 1 pick.  Why would they buy that?  If Risacher is our guy, wed just pick him at #1 anyways.

 

And if Trae wants Clingan and is the driving force for our draft pick, thats the tail wagging the dog.  If Trae is threatening to request a trade if we dont pick a win-now rookie or trade our pick, just cut the tail off.  Clingan is not the answer and I really hope the FO isnt looking at Lively in DAL, thinking we can replicate that bc we cant.  We need to stay true to Quin and Landrys player profile philosophies— being able to dribble, shoot, pass, and defend multiple positions.

If Quin wants a win-now rookie, cut that tail off too? 

12 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

We have zero direction or vision at the top. We don’t know who or what we want to be.,

Trying my best to detect lies ........

9 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

I never thought I’d be interested in Lavine, but it kinda makes sense. 

.... I've heard worst cases being made.

My goodness, what have we become? 

2 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

There's a lot of ideas on what dumping Clint and Hunter looks like.  I don't see them netting us much of anything in return.  Chicago will probably want younger players.  

I doubt that if they're runnin it back with Zerozen and Vuc. 

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Damn, we're going to f--k this up, aren't we?

I got news for ya, 'Cyde.  Toni and his nepo-baby pretty much guarantee the answer to this question. 

12 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Risacher is to Wiseman as Sarr is to Ant . This draft is backwards, the big is better than the wing.

 

Risacher ain’t the one. This guy is gonna bust. He reminds me of Vlatko Čančar. Very robotic type wing 🪽 that won’t translate well.

 

Risacher isn’t the one… 

But what if the 'big' (Sarr) is actually a wing? 

34 minutes ago, thecampster said:

This is very true. If you skip the highlights and go straight to "needs to improve" in the highlight videos, there are many instances of him getting abused down low and by shorter players. He gets bullied in the post and struggles when he is the primary defender. If he's the primary defender you can give up on him getting a rebound. 90% of his blocks come on help defense, weak side blocks, chase downs. But 1v1 defense near the basket (post ups, big men 1v1 drives, etc) he gets owned on the regular. Not growing up as a big shows.

He'll get abused in the pick n roll lob game big man drives (Lebron, Giannis, Zion, Jalen Johnson types).  He's got a much better shot as a big 4 (like Garnett, Durant) because much more of that game is played on the perimeter now.  The modern center has too many responsibilities and strength is every bit as important as mobility.  I'm just not sold based on his limitations.

As for the highlight plays. He played the backup center in a much smaller league, where the guard play off the bench was Trent Forrest level. Slow drives, no elite ball handlers. Those watching his perimeter defense are seeing how he'd defend Forrest. They are not seeing how he'd defend Haliburton on the perimeter. His rebounding, post defense was against backup NBL centers. It wasn't against Lopez, Nurkic, Capela types, more or less Embiid/Davis. He is years away. You draft him at 1, you are going to pay him $10 million a year to play a lot at College Park and to come in when we're down 30.  Right now, John Collins would own him in the post.  

You can't even toss it to him in the post for a reset because he doesn't have the post handles for 2 dribbles and punch it back out. He's a project, not a player right now and anyone saying differently is drinking the Kool-aid.

Please read this article before anymore Jamestown kool-aid drinking wastes a #1 overall pick. Focus on the below paragraph.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/nbl-vs-nba-5-major-differences-two-leagues-decoding-makes-nba-better

 

 

He was the backup center in this league getting 9 ppg and 4.7 boards.  He got 7.7/3 in their playoffs.  This is not 1st overall pick worthy.  Please have some sense here.  You draft Sarr, he isn't playing meaningful minutes for 3 years while handicapping the team with a substantial salary. Are you willing to wait?  You draft Clingan, he can at least be a bench center this year.  

This all hurts my feelings, tc.  I feel you reached inside my soul and snatched out a handful of the essence that resides within me.

Seriously though, I can buy that Sarr's best future is as a 4.  If his potential as 4 is super high, is he the pick anyway due to BPA-ness?

21 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

As a Hawks fan I have no interest in any Grizz or Bulls player. Portland is a different story. I would do :

 

Blazers get: #1 + filler (Trent Forrest; 500k)

Hawks get : Shaedon Sharpe + #7 (6.3 mill)

 

If the #1 pick is slated to earn 10.5 mill and #7 would get 5.5 mill it would be about a 5 mill difference which evens out salaries but I’m not sure. @JayBirdHawk the student of the great pupil Bab the OG Fanatic of the Hawks, would you kindly chime in on this if I may? 

 

Isn't Sharpe basically an American version of Rissach.... Resea .... uh, the French guy? 

8 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

I hate that Bronny can use his father as a way to get drafted.  

He would not even be considered for a draft pick (1st or 2nd) if his dad wasn't Lebron.  He even has the nerve to turn down 10 teams for workouts.

Sad

Eh, the world is built on nepotism.  This example is just in our faces.  Doesn't really raise my blood pressure much.

My dream is for LAL to take him and Lebron immediately retires afterward.  Haha.  Suck it, Lakers.

That said, this is actually pretty bad for the kid because everyone knows why he's getting drafted.

5 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Ooo this is fun.. how about #1 and Murray for Quentin Grimes

 

or Trae Young and #1 for Austin Reeves

Whoa, whoa, how many future 1sts are we including to get Reaves back tho?  7? 

57 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

So it's all a conspiracy! Right. Or maybe they did an investigation and found the allegations were without merit. Maybe one day you will be accused of crime you didn't commit, and have more empathy. 

It was reported that the family refused to cooperate, thus there was no "investigation" other than taking his word for it. 

As @hawkman said, he didn't bring up details about the situation.  He merely suggested it wasn't worth it to pursue the player.  And he's not wrong.  You decided to delve into this further while the rest of us chose to talk around it to avoid the inevitable derailing. 

4 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

I don't know if he would help our team, I don't have any strong opinions on him as a player, but there would no controversy whatsoever, he was cleared. OKC did not even suspend him or ask him to sit, and there was no issue. NBA concluded it's investigation, it's over. There would no issue with "optics", you're wrong on this one buddy. 

Agree to disagree on this one, bk.

And, let's agree, I'm never wrong.  

11 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

A little to Giddey with the girl for my taste…

Fixed? 

39 minutes ago, noble said:

Because we would rather win than have inefficient play and no superstar, well not a top 20 player at least. 

It's well past 'get over it' time. 

31 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Boston has the guys to make Luka and Kyrie work. I think Boston is the slight favorite. 

 

I'm expecting Kyrie to be a beast in revenge mode.  Boston may get swept. 

54 minutes ago, terrell said:

Luka going crazy..

Come on Wolves!!! smh

Eh, seems they're laying down and gettin a good belly rub before going to sleep. 

34 minutes ago, terrell said:

That genie might be outta the bag, terr-elmo.