DawsonsCreek

I usually agree with Pete on alot of things. This I dont though. I think the Grizz are gonna get caught up in something like we did with Al Harrington. Much like us, they are waiting till the summer to put together a deal that they could have gotten alot more for during the season. We ended up at #11 but that was a freaking disaster waiting to happen....If you would have asked me at the beginning of the season where that pick would be I would have told you in the 20's. If Sothorn's sources say they may be asking for #3, #11 and Chillz, of course you have got to counter. #3, Chillz and Speedy (to match money and patch a need of theirs). Think if they keep Gasol...They get the 4th pick in the draft? And that pick takes a few years to develop and they go through another horrible year? With the hawks as a trading partner they would get 2 vets and a young star (potentially) plus whoever they take at #4 and shedding Gasols contract. I do that deal if I were them. The trade offers are only gonna get worse for them imo.

I like that lineup Gutzy. If portland throws in their 2nd round pick (the first one they have) along with Jack we could get a young wing (hello Byars, Tucker, Dudley, Terry, Afflalo)to play behind marvin and we are ready to rock n roll yall.

We may or may not get our pg of the future this year doing something with #11 but having #3 doesnt guarantee that in this years draft either. Not likely we could deal for anyone elses young pg of the future...thats just reality. Do the deal baby.

Reasons Gasol would play center here: 1. We had Zaza there. 2. Hawks are gonna have to have Smooth and Marvin on the floor at the same time. If you dont think so you are nuts. The #2 pick in the league and riding bench in his 3rd year? I dont think so and this regime certainly doesnt think so. 3. I beleive that is Brad Miller guarding Pau on his nba.com profile....so yes he does play center. 4. Yes, hes not the second comming of Shaq but I didnt realize we had the oppurtunity to get Oden or Orlando was fielding offers for Dwight Howard (sarcasm).

I agree Walter on both points. Lord have mercy if their would still be a way to get conley if we acquired Gasol. He gets a big to play with and a kick out guy in Joe. Im not gonna be mad if we end up with Law because I think hes ahead of Javaris at this point. But thoughts of a Javaris and Salim backcourt comming off the bench is intriguing.

I know we are all hawks fans and want the best for our team but saying you want Noah over Gasol is just nuts. Speedy, at this point is not the pg of the future here and Chillz is not gonna get the money he would get somewhere else. So if they would do #3,Chillz and Claxton which works out in the trade checker and fills needs for them (as well as them still having their #4)... The real question is do you think Horford can average 20 and 10 in this league a season? Cause thats what Gasol does for you. You do this deal baby.

Jerry when will we ever come to the point where we stop building for the future? By the time some of these players reach there potential, their contracts will be up and they will sign elswhere because we cant keep them all. And other teams are gonna bare the fruits of our labor. I think you make the deal for an all star that fills a need. I think Chillz would be welcomed in memphis. They are going to a run and gun style (new coach) and beleive me they are gonna need someone like him. He can play defense, bring the ball up, and play that uptempo style. Thats like saying Phoenix couldnt use a player like chillz in that type of system. #3, Chillz and Speedy....gets them their big (#3), Their diaw type player for Ivaroni's offense and a pg to run the show.

Tx I agree with the trade scenario. I think you got to take Gasol cause he will be an all star in this confrence and potentially your best player. Nothing against Yi but by the time he reaches his peak Knight and the rest of the regime might not have a job.And to be honest how much better can Yi be then Gasol in these next few years?

Soth you gotta deal chill. Hes got value and hes gonna excel in that system they are putting out there with the new coach. Chill will not see our starting lineup on a regular basis like someone has pointed out and he could walk next year. #3, Chill, and Claxton gets that deal done. I mean you know Memphis is salivating over the possibility of having 2 top 5 picks and shaving money.

I love it Sothron thanks! Just to know that Billy has inquired about Amare makes me feel good. Probably would cost us 3,11 and someting like Josh smith....which I wouldnt do. #3, Childress and Claxton would work in the trade checker for Gasol on real gm. Gasol would be a definate upgrade for the team. Be real nice to have that 1-2 punch of Gasol and Joe. Anthony Johnson (Or whatever #11 can get us) Joe Johnson Marvin Williams Josh Smith Pau Gasol We would be talking playoffs boys.

I would like the pacman back too. If they decided to remake it in black I wouldnt be mad at that either.

I like that lineup KB. Jack and Johnson in the backcourt would be awesome. Two unselfish players, who can score (johnson more then jack of course), play defense and lead is something I would give #11 for. Get your quality big pf/center in horford (at #3) who gives us a back to the basket game, rebounding and shot blocking ability etc. Only question the hawks would have to ask themselves in THIS scenario (taking conley out of the mix) is....Is jack better then acie law......and is horford a better choice then Ye.

Im sure this will change many times before the actual draft. So everyone calm down. Nbadraft.net could put Mustafa Shakur at #11 and some of yall would have a heart attack. I do like horford at #3 for the hawks(one because hes a really good player and 2 because its realistic that he will be there). Who knows who will be there at #11. Chances are the top rated pg in the draft (conley) wont be. Im ready for some immediate help from this draft class. Anything other then making the playoffs this year would be a failure imo.

Sothron, Conley/Hawes (or best available Forward/Center if Hawes is gone) or Horford/Law (if Horford can play center) If you get a chance Sothron, could you ask your sources if they think that Horford could play center for us on a regular basis? I mean hes what we havnt had. A potential threat in the post, a nice defender and he can rebound the ball. The kid is capable of giving us 12 and 10 a night imo. Imagine this lineup at some point next season: Acie Law IV Joe Johnson Marvin Williams Josh Smith Al Horford Its a young lineup but with those 2 rookies you are bringing 7 years college experience to the table (law 4 years, horford 3). Billy Knight/Mike Woodson and the rest of the regime cant afford to wait on players like Crittenton and Wright imo. Thanks DC

Aldridge/Jack/Next Years #1 for #3/Chillz

time for you to go to bed.

Agreed. Gonna take LA and JJ for Conley. Maybe more.

Pete long time no see. I agree. Take conley and call it a day. This dude is gonna be unbeleivable. He is one of the first guys Ive seen as a young pg that made me say this dude was too good for the college level. Yeah he could stand to get stronger and work on his 3pt game but the dude does EVERYTHING ELSE. He was the best college pg in the country and the Hawks would be doing a big diservice to themselves by not taking him.

The Hawks dont need to get cute in this draft. Take your pg of the future at #3 (Conley) and then the best frontline guy at #11, whether that is Noah, Hawes, Green, Thornton etc...Lets get in the damn playoffs next year.

I dont know how would we do it but if we could do #3/Marvin/Claxton for Aldridge/Jack/Miles/(Next Years #1 Non Protected) I would do something like that....Miles and Speedy have comparable contracts....at least we could get something out of Miles. I wouldnt mind seeing: Jack/A Johnson/Lue Johnson/Childress/Salim Miles/Number #11 (Noah,Thornton?) Smith/Shelden/Solomon Aldridge/ZaZa/Lo I mean how sweet would that be....even if phoenix takes our pick next year....we would have portlands.

I agree Quest. Murph brings a diminsion that we havnt had since Collier. He can go beyong the arc, rebound and put the ball on the floor at 6'11. He would be nice at the pf postion but also could play the center position in spot duty. And then you throw in Pietrus? I just get excited thinking about it.

I like it alot Rex. Bringing in at least 4 new guys (rookies and the 2 guys hopefully from GS) and losing 1 major guy in AL? I would do that. Hopefully ownership will sort itself out and we will be upgrading players every year as opposed to just finding able bodies. Starting Lineup: PG-Speedy Claxton SG-Joe Johnson SF-Josh Smith PF-Troy Murphy C-ZaZa Bench: PG- Lue SG- Pietrus SF- Childress PF- Marvin C-Shelden Then we still have salim, jones and a few others. Sign me up.

I wouldnt mind murphy as well. Gives us what we dont have much of and thats size that can go beyond the arc and while also putting the ball on the floor. Can rebound too. As far as Pietrus, hes got alot of potential but the hawks have to utilize him (unlike diaw) in the open court. We hear atl is gonna step up to a more uptempo style and pietrus would make sense but if atl plays the kind of game we are used to seeing, I dont think it would be a smart move taking him on.

Espn reports that a Fisher to Utah for 3 guards is about to go down. I wonder if that has anything to do with GS's intrest with AL. Are they bracing for Ellis to get dealt here? Lets hope so. That would be nice along with a big. If we end up with Murphy(eat that contract and he will play alot of minutes at the PF/C position and will bring an opposing big out to the 3pt line to open it up for our other bigs) and Ellis for AL im gonna be real happy. If we make that move I think we will be in contention for that last playoff spot. I think its even more incentive to not be a loser next year cause anything out of the top 3 is phoenix's. And that would freakin hurt. Make that trade baby.

If we can add another big like foster I wouldnt mind. But it would be real nice to get ellis from gs and groom him behind speedy and even play him with lue. I would throw in Salim with AL just cause his playing time might not be there if we added a young pg (along with a big from GS). AL for Murphy (PF/C) and Ellis (PG/SG)? Would you do it? If we get those 2 im thinking we make a run at the playoffs baby. GS is probably way high on ellis but if we eat Murphys contract and Murphy can get alot of minutes here why not.