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What is going on here? Great value and a big boost to the ceiling of the current Hawks incarnation.

That makes the mods job too hard. Imo

As I've said before, this should not be an open thread. It should only be open for posting by you, campster, supes, and anyone else who has a channel to team leaks. Then we would have a separate "comment" thread for people to open discuss what you guys post in here. That way everyone can find the relevant information easily.

Of course this only works if your coach is in complete lock step with your front office.

Good arguments for recouping value for Capela. I could see that as being a good option. Let's also consider the other way to go, which kg mentioned. Keep Capela, but reduce his role (and value) and drive up Okongwu value by giving him many of Capela's minutes. Then trade Kong at the height of his value and extend Capela on the cheap. If Kong really does take a huge leap you still have the option to sign him if there isn't a good trade out there. If he flounders you are protected by the prospect of extending Capela cheaply.

Why are we so keen to get rid of Capela too? Okongwu is not a complete player, and I'm not sure he ever will be. If he doesn't develop some offensive game, what the hell is he even? On the plus side, strong character, big energy, fundamentally sound. On the minus side, no ability to stretch the floor, tweener size, limited offensive game (no faceup game, no middie, unexceptional handle and distribution). Of all the guys......he's one of them. Capela is what he is, but he at least is signed to a good deal. I'm afraid Kong will get massively overpaid and it will be Collins all over again.

Way too much. Siakam contract situation lowers the price. Hunter plus 1 other asset (AJ, 1st, Capela, JJ). Could add multiple second rounders, but that would be my final offer.

We should not try and top that offer. I think Indiana has a better offer potentially.

Wish it could have been us. However, Grant is a Texas guy and he may well have preferred the situation in Dallas. He may have gotten to choose. I guess we weren't willing to give a first, but i would have. Our window is now.

Actually I could possibly include OO as available too. I like his game, but without the shooting piece I can find guys like him. Nice kid, good Hawks DNA fit, but probably not special. AJ could be huge though, so it's a no on him.

Ideal scenario is for this Jaylen Brown thing to happen and include Grant in the deal back to us. Then you can happily include DJM, Hunter, JJ, and maybe Capela; while trying to hold on to AJ and OO. I don't personally think JJ is going to be anything special, but the upside of youth (and a bit of good film) gives him value right now that will disappear IMO as he ages and gets more playing time. Same thing with Bufkin - just a replaceable guy so if someone wants him to get this done, throw him in. SG types are the most easily replaceable position.

We shot more 2FG's than any team in the league last year, so one way we could improve efficiency is to pull defenders out of the lane. 60% from 2 is just as good as 40% from 3. There are different ways to be more efficient.

Would love to see it. I'm one who really likes a front court shooter with the gravity to pull some weight out of the lane and open up driving opportunities for JJ, Hunter, DJM, or whoever.

I like if true. Should have "Hawks DNA" (snort) in spades. He competes, has toughness, is a winner, shoots, does dirty work. We would be pretty small if you're going to play him with OO.

I only mean production, body, skill set, athleticism. Put the stats side by side and there isn't much to separate the two.

In other words, John Collins 2.0.

SNT Christian Wood

I'm not 100 on that but it definitely means you're not posting in there

The best insider nuggets at the moment aren't even in this thread. Mods, I would appreciate that if we want to have an insider thread, that it is a locked thread which only can be posted to by vetted insiders. And then have a separate 'reaction' thread for everyone to talk about the rumors.

Soth - does potential trade require the Collins/Gay deal to be completed first? We might need that salary to make something work.

However, i would prefer a similar framework to bring back KAT. Modern ball requires a frontcourt 3pt threat, IMO. I'm secretly hoping for this instead of Siakam.

Would make sense to me. Saves a little money as well short term. Then you would need to use one of our TPE's for a non-ball dominant SG which is the easiest market to shop in. I think our team would be better to move DJM's scoring to the frontcourt where it doesn't take so many touches from Trae. Trae is streaky and needs to get up shots in order to find "it" on any given night. I think that is why Trae's efficiency dropped playing alongside DJM.

bro we needed a salary in that low-mid range that could facilitate certain deals. We have a lot of big salaries and lot of little ones.

If OO needs to start as a C, and I think we are getting to the point as well, then we need a stretch 4 that can pop a good % from 3pt land. For me that would be Christian Wood since it looks like Dallas is not interested in making him an offer. We can use SNT to make it happen. What is the going rate to facilitate a SNT? IOW, what would Dallas want for the trouble?

Unless we need the TPE immediately for a deal, it's better if we delay completion of the deal as long as possible, because you only get 365 days to use that TPE. If we strike out with it this summer, would be good to have a shot at using it next summer.