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Slap a time limit on it (30 seconds?)and call it good. And if it takes a built-in point deduction for each missed attempt, then add that too. 14 attempts is beyond excessive and if the judges can't think for themselves to deduct points, they should start screening the judges a little more.

Quote: AI dosen't make others around him better and if he comes to Atl than don't expect a lot of shots for Marvin and Smoove. What's your reasoning? I think AI makes others around him better because of the way he either draws a double team or puts up a lot of points. Even when he gets doubled, he still gets his (33.2 this year) in less shots and with better accuracy than Kobe (1344,44.3% / 1253,44.7%). And assuming that Marvin and Smoove progress the way they're being groomed (more low post than jump shooting), that should work out just fine. I think adding AI would give them more quality looks.

Quote: There is no way the owners could be dumb enough to give Al a big offer. Plus BK has shown that he can be tight with a dollar. OT, but can someone with accurate cap knowledge put a post up regarding exactly how we stand as far as our cap figure going into next offseason?

Word on the street is that the Chargers won't lock up $10 mil on Brees by designating him their franchise/transition player. Could he come back at a lower price tag? Is it time to start collecting on the Philip Rivers investment? I say no and yes. I'm no medical expert but a torn labrum doesn't sound reassuring in any sense.

Quote: So why is it that every time Al goes to the bench the Hawks go on a run? On other teams when they take their top players out the actually lose ground most of the time. I'm telling you guys, put Al back on the bench to play 6/7th man along with Salim!

Quote: I see Philly making a move towards the future. What they get from us is: an ending contract (Al) and actually, you could probably put Delk in place of Lue... Plus Chillz. I think Chillz is a strong player at the Sf position. AND a high 1st rounder. The first rounder is something that is a bit shaky because of our future deals. Because of that, this deal couldn't be done .... However, it's interesting. Was just about to say... With Iguodala currently at the 3 and CWebb currently at the 4, where do Chillz and Al play? Or would Philly really only be interested in freeing cap space by trading for Al?

Here's another quick read regarding Al rumors. "Al Harrington doesn't seem to be a part of the Hawks' plans and becomes a free agent this summer. As a result, the Hawks are certain to try to get something for him while they still can. The veteran forward turned 26 Friday and should be in line for a belated present -- getting back on a team with playoff plans. Harrington has played in 25 postseason games and was a major factor in the Pacers' run to the Eastern Conference finals in 2004."

Quote: So what can the Hawks expect from Al as the team gets better? if they resign him they will probably be playing them more at the 3 so his rebounding will go down some. So they can probably expect about 15/6, not the 20/8 that his delusional agent proclaims. One thing they can expect at the very least - and this is my main reason for wanting to keep Al instead of trading him - is that he's putting up 18/7 right now and can do so until Marvin is ready to step up and produce similar or better numbers and provide much better defense. Taking those numbers out of the equation right now would be taking a step back when this summer was when we saw our team taking what resembles steps forward. I also agree that as our team gets better, Al's numbers will definitely decrease as his role gets reduced. But until that time arrives I think it's better that we stick with the known commodity unless we are getting another piece of the puzzle in return (which should also be a known commodity and nothing resembling a project or potential). I don't think signing Al to a 6 year contract works out perfectly because I don't think it will take Marvin half that time to get into the swing of things, but that's a risk that I'd be ok with the team taking. It's not like he can't be traded later.

Unless they claim that they originated the concept, I think it would be fair to say that those that would care would already know realgm was first.

Quote: If the trade was Al, JC, Lue, 1st for AI... would you be interested. Ai, JJ, Marvin, Smoove, Zaza... AI = 33.2 ppg, 7.4 apg. Absolutely. Even though AI isn't a pg, he is a threat on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball that teams plan against. I can live with that in place of Al. Getting AI to man the point for the next few years would lock up both guard positions for that stretch, making JC and Lue expendable. And that 1st round pick... Set it back for 07 or 08 so we can draft a guard this year or next year for depth.

The USA Today has a similar rumor in today's paper also. They mentioned AI along with Garnett being two franchise names that could possibly be on the block, however little it may be. I'd personally love to see an AI + JJ backcourt. Could you imagine the problems that Iverson would cause driving to the hole and creating open shots for the rest of the guys?

Quote: Wow he had 44 points tonight! 37 points and 8-10 from downtown in 2nd half. I like Aldridge like most of you guys i bet but, this kid is an amazing talent. What if we had a 2nd pick and Gay/Aldridge was gone at 1. Who do we choose? Gay/Aldridge or Morrison or maybe even Bargnani. I think one of those 4 guys has a great chance to become a hawk, unless we trade the pick down. Your boy was kept in check by Pepperdine last night though. And nothing really comes to mind when I think of Pepperdine, much less a defensive stopper a la Bruce Bowen that was guarding Le 'Stache.

Quote: Thursday 3pm EST.

Quote: Al, Delk, Salim 1st for Allen and Fortson..i would be happy with that bt don't think they'd do that... A JJ-Ray backcourt would be nasty. That's about the only reason I'd want to see the Hawks picking up Fortson. Although I don't know about giving up that much for essentially Ray Allen since I'm sure that by the time the offseason comes around Fortson would have worn out his welcome or gotten horribly out of shape.

Quote: Does this trade benifit anyone? It would get us a true PG in Hinrich (even though he's being played out of position in CHI right now), which is one of the only things I'd trade Al for other than a defensive C.

Quote: YES to HINRICH P and the pick no to THOMAS we do not need any more SF'S Tim Thomas wouldn't be on the team after this season.

I got a chance to watch his shot in person at the Blazers home opener and man it looks ugly. But like it's been said, as long as it's going in, I could care less.

Quote: Its time for us to make a move, I cannot watch this team the rest of the season with Lue, Edwards, and Harrington. Patience is a virtue. If you can survive the roster implosion that went on the past two seasons you can survive this one. We're doing good with what we've got and I like the fact that BK has stuck to his guns so far with his plans for the team. There's absolutely no reason to stray from this path for a quick fix. We're not title contenders; we're not even playoff contenders yet.

No doubt we took a step in the right direction this summer with the acquisition of JJ.

I agree. With Salim's role of coming off the bench, I don't blame him for shooting a lot and shooting from long distance where I like his chances. That's what he's supposed to bring to the table for now, so as long as he's producing in that role I'm happy with it. As far as development down the road, I also agree with Diesel that Salim leaves a lot to be desired in terms of a more team-oriented style of play.

Rotisserie.

I thought I just read that Isiah's current delusion is that a backcourt of Starbury and Franchise would be like him and dumars. Right. I don't know which team would be harder to get a shot attempt on, the Lakers or the Knicks with this possible starting guard combo. If we were to get in the mix and end up with Franchise as our pg, I don't see how it could be any worse than having lue/ivey manning the position. For all the bickering and selfish attitude (which for me is enough to NEVER put him in our young locker room) he has, the man is explosive and it would be a lot more entertaining to watch the hawks. At least until Franchise got tired of losing and started in with his best TO impersonation.

Here's an idea I just thought of after reading your post. What if we were to put Al back into a 6th man position and start Marvelous at the 3? Clearly we've been divided between wanting to trade Al and not wanting to, but this proposition could accomplish the pros of both arguments without the permanent effect of trading Al. Is Marvin ready at this point to be a starting SF? I doubt it. But it will definitely give him the playing time to get adjusted to the speed and nuances of the NBA game that you can only practice in theory during film sessions, training camp, etc. Instead of speculating on what the future holds, why not get the future started now? Is Al enough of a defensive liability that we can trade away his offensive contributions? I doubt it. Could you imagine having him AND Salim coming off the bench as instant offense? In a way this would somewhat remove Al's lack of defense and not trade away his 18 ppg average.

This year, definitely the Big East with 'Nova and GTown's resurgence. Most any other year though it's gotta be the ACC without question.

Quote: Michael Vick is hyped up by the same people that are currently hyping up Vince Young. Neither one of them are quarterbacks. They are athletes playing quarterback. That doesn't work in the NFL. I hate the politically correct media that wants to hype up a particular style of black quarterback due to their social conscious over the issue. This leaves the black quarterbacks that should be getting the hype in the dark. If the media wants to hype up a black quarterback, it should be Byron Leftwich. At least he can pass the football effectively and doesn't look to use his legs first. Not to say that you can compare college success to NFL success but here's something to look over: 1. Rudy Carpenter, Arizona St 175.01 2. Brian Brohm, Louisville 166.73 3. Vince Young, Texas 163.95 4. Troy Smith, Ohio St 162.66 5. Drew Olson, UCLA 161.59 6. Phil Horvath, N Illinois 159.23 7. Brady Quinn, N Dame 158.40 8. Matt Leinart, USC 157.74 9. Colt Brennan, Hawaii 155.49 10. Drew Stanton, Mich St 152.98 That puts an athlete playing qb with a higher qb rating than everyone's college definition of the prototype pocket passer in Matt Leinart.