RedDawg#8

The fact that OO has FG% over 60% while shooting 3’s and generally just shooting from further away from the basket than CC is very telling when CC only shoots at the rim and is at .575% I think CC is still very good and we will need all of his strength and size against bigger matchups. Im not the guy pushing him out the door. I just need this team to function better on the court for longer stretches. I don’t trust OO to stay out of foul trouble either. We need them both around. If we truly aren’t ducking the tax then keep them and start OO. Preserve CC’s bad achilles. Some of this stuff makes too much sense.

I see it like this, even though technically Bey, Dre, and JJ have each platooned minutes at the 3/4 spots, the team is playing much with Bey at 3, JJ at 4. Forget reputations, just going off results. I like Dre as our combo forward (notice I said “our”) off the bench. I like running more plays for him in lineups that he doesn’t have to compete for touches. I also like playing him fewer minutes since he has not shown durability to survive a full season as a starter.

I’m interested to know if it wasn’t for CC rebounding his own misses just how big that rebounding gap is. He gets no less than (2) free rebounds a game by blowing bunnies at the rim. Side note. I agree with everyone regarding lineups. Forget contracts, experience, and whatever X player is SUPPOSED to bring to the table based on reputation. OO + JJ is an elite and effective basketball pairing dating back to last season. CC is the backup center that every contender wants/needs. That is his role to finish his career. The Drummonds, Howards, McGees of the world all agree. Dre since returning is EXPLOSIVE off of the bench. Let him feature in that role. Take draft position and contract away and just look at him on THIS roster. He is our best PF option after JJ. He is too small to play it full time but against backups he can eat against a lot of reserve frontcourt matchups. He has never had great splits with our better lineups, which is more likely due to him being the 5th option on those units than him lacking ability. Someone has to sacrifice and it may be him. He could be an X factor of the bench. It may also help preserve his long term health. Capela and Dre could still play starters minutes based on matchups and production, but at least for now we need to try getting the most minutes out of our best lineups, not just our best 5 players if that makes sense. Beat me again

My boy in Boston really tried to compare Trae to Isaiah Thomas (Celtics). Im like dude, not even close. I.T had one season his entire career that was even in Trae’s ballpark. I know this kid would get his due elsewhere. Even Nique never got his respect until he was long retired.

You mean Lundy? We let Martin go i. The offseason. I agree though. The young guys at least give you energy and hustle that some vets can’t provide anymore. Beat me

It’s not about Herb Jones. Dre is a better player overall. Not the point that was being made. We lack a defensive star/playmaker and that should have been both Dre and Cam (Wingstop, remember?) Remember the Mikal Bridges debate? Same thing. He mastered a role that was needed. We drafted long wings to flank Trae and yet here we are, clamoring for more size and defense. Dre could be a defensive superstar. He could have that kind of impact. But he is not, and he does not. He is good. He could be great.

Agreed. Both had enormous defensive upside and looked great. Problem is, both thought they were the next star and deserved the ball as opposed to say, a Herb Jones and Murphy type of teammates who are young but embrace being role players.

I think that was legit and we are just following through with the ruse in order to avoid the NBA’s load management police. I bet he plays

We are flawed. We don’t know the full details of any deal that was on the table that we turned down. What we know based on rumors is that several deals were one sided not in favor of the Hawks. We may have liked a name connected to us, but at what cost? We also do not know what moves we were willing to do that other teams turned down. This is why we can’t rely on gossip and rumors to get you excited. When you take a step back from the hot takes, you realize that not much makes sense in practice or on paper. We are not going to find out that the Hawks had deals in place that were clearly going to make us better and we decided, nah, this team is fine as is.

I’m really sorry for the hurt many of you are feeling.

That’s old and that was after the JC trade I believe where everyone was questioning if we were ducking the tax. So he was answering a direct question. I remember hearing this on 92.9

Folks really mad because we didn’t give Murray away for a BS return. Or maybe they are mad because nobody wanted to take our junk pieces off of our hands. There is no need to define your Hawks fanhood based on this trade deadline. Again, it is not the FO’s fault that WE work ourselves up in to a frenzy over trade rumors when they are not the ones pushing these narratives to us.

I’m sorry everyone was let down. But remember, Sometimes when you win, you really lose. And sometimes when you lose, you really win. And sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose. That’s us. That’s the Hawks lol

Um, we are still talking about Nola when the outside world is claiming that we have already moved on from them. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/02/hawks-pelicans-end-dejounte-murray-trade-talks.html

And fatter

Coaches votes should have to match their gameplans. If you send doubles, box and-1’s, traps on PNR, etc…, against a player you cannot vote for a another guy who you defend straight up and cite winning as the excuse. Clearly, Trae Young would bust that ass if you left a defender on him 1v1 all game long and it would probably result in more of those coveted wins. So pat yourself on the back, coaches, your gameplan was successful. Don’t double down and punish him for the team loss.

My thought is why would WE trade OO and DJ if it weren’t for a big fish? Woj says CJ is off the table. Who else does Nola have that would make our FO want to move off of DJ and OO? There is no collection of role players that is worth that haul.

Where there’s smoke…

Oh wow, yal are funny old farts lol AJ McClean is the same AJ from Backstreet Boys CJ Stroud is the likely NFL ROY, starting QB for Houston. Lily Singh is a beautiful and hilarious actress/comedian/late night personality. Parsons, NFL star. Kai Cenat was just shouted out courtside at a Hawks game last week, social media influencer. Tristan Jass is another influencer. We know JHuD, Ron Artest. The rest I definitely had to google but were loosely familiar.

Agreed! Not one player can make us a good defensive team. It’s a culture that has to be bought in to. Effort, communication, toughness, resilience, and CONFIDENCE

Jalen would have looked nice in the dunk contest. I don’t know if Jaquez has any real ups.

Congrats to Trae. Proud of him for putting the fans first. He would be a 5 time All Star if he took the injury replacement invite before. But it’s all good man. Happy for him and Hawks nation.

Seriously doubt that is what is happening. It’s more likely that his fire and brimstone posts are a symptom of a mental and emotional crisis due to the traumatic life events that have occurred recently and he has not been 100% locked in to his career as a ball player. Not that posting bible references is bad, it’s not. Nor is being a believer. It’s just a lack of discernment as a public figure that stands out as a potential red flag which matches up with the timeline of his lack of playing time.

I don’t know if anyone has noticed but, we aren’t getting anything out of the kid right now anyway. We have enough history of holding on to a player too long to where he has no value that I am willing to make that move on from him. Holding and waiting hasn’t worked out well for us. It isn’t a salary dump when we are getting a player that can actually help us on the court right now. It’s the offseason where we can decide if Okoro is worth resigning or letting him walk based on his play in the 2nd half of the season.

Both would be FA’s https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/delon-wright-17848/ Wright is an UFA, Okoro is a RFA. If anything it helps clear some of the books if we don’t want to keep them around.