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The age thing isn’t as big of a deal as experience is. He missed an entire year of playing more organized basketball before going to college.

At this point I’m happy with anyone in the top 5 besides Young and Jackson. Anybody else I think we’re ok

I wasn’t to high on Bamba early on but I’ve grown to love him as a fit on this team. Him next to Collins could be special. His length and rim protection would be great next to Collins along with his offensive upside.

I tried to explain this before, guys kill me trying to act like they can predict the future.

With his lack of offensive aggression and lack of high end skill on that end he better be a defensive guru to get drafted as high as some guys are talking about. I would not be happy taking JJJ with a top 5 pick right now

Nope it’s a good day for the team bc this is the oath they chose...rather you accept it or not this is the path they are taking and a day like this is great for the team

These young guys look really good and the development of Prince looks extremely promising. If he can carry this over to next year and keep building on it then he will definitely be a big plus in the future plans of this team. Collins keeps looking good in his limited role, I hope he continues his efficiency once his role expands but I’m ok with Bud bringing him along slowly. I’m very optimistic about our future

Just gonna keep moving the goal posts I see. Nothing is ever good enough bc they can find the most obscure example of something that went the opposite direction and focus the entire conversation on that until it’s no longer useful or someone dispels that theory and then we move the goal posts again. Ridiculous

There hasn’t been any logic here for awhile...just looking for any angle available to complain about the direction of the team

It’s getting worse lol

Wow! Lol this is getting pathetic, you can’t be serious. First of all none of the guys you named were with these guys their rookie year. Most of em weren’t there until at least 3 years down the line. Secondly you’re calling out guys like Joe Smith and Eric Snow lol...the type of guys we could add to this team and STILL be on our way to a successful tank. Why wouldn’t Desmon fit that bill if a joe smith or Eric Snow does? Y’all are truly getting ridiculous with this. This is the best you got man? Sit down somewhere lol

Who mentored lebron? KD? Steph? We really feel like this would’ve been the route to a quicker championship? You’re talking about an mvp player mentoring a number 1 pick who ended up bein the best ever at his position and most people saw greatness in him before he was ever with Robinson. If this is the best that can be done for an alternative to what we’re doin right now then I think we’re on the right path. Sap is a borderline all star and we’re talking about him mentoring the same way a top 50 all time player did. Come on man

I am still utterly amazed at this thread. People hating what the hawks are doing now while giving no actual strategy to use instead...just complaining. We have guys who are apparently the greatest talent evaluators that the world has ever seen bc not only are they saying there will be no franchise talents in this draft...they’re already calling for there to be none in next years class. We’re talking about losing not being able to attract players to our franchise...what was the problem and or reason that we weren’t able to attract stars when we were on the 2nd longest playoff streak in he league? We’re arguing about guys not making impact immediately so we will still be bad for some years...ok. The point is to win a championship eventually, not make the playoffs next year. How long did it take lebron to win? How bout KD? Did Steph win in his second year? How bout Jordan? Shaq? Kobe? Dirk? These are the most pointless conversations and we’re just constantly going in circles bc two guys swear they have the answer on how to actually win a ring but haven’t given one viable example of how to do so. Jesus Christ

You have a hard time reading between the lines huh?

Right, because you talked to him and he told you this

And nobody cares

Let’s try this again...anybody wanna tell me a team that won a championship without lottery players? Then we can keep having this discussion. If not y’all are talking in circles for the hell of it

Except it is.

The only thing that is guaranteed by never getting lottery players is never winning a championship. That’s guaranteed. Like I said you can scoff at it all you want but it’s how championships are won. Does it make losers as well? Yes. Now does not ever acquiring lottery players win you a championship? No, it doesn’t. So basically you’re saying you’d rather not have a chance to win a title bc you hate the process that it takes to get there. You’d rather be ok and never really have a chance bc it looks better.

If someone can show me a championship team that wasn’t built with players that came from the lottery (besides 04 pistons) I’ll gladly continue to have this conversation...but if not y’all are truly arguing for the sake of arguing. The fact that some teams try this and still end up being bad is irrelevant if every team that ever wins does so with players from the lottery...line why are we even talking about this? You’re basically saying we COULD still not win...true. But it’s GUARANTEED we won’t win if we don’t have these kinds of players. I’m so confused on the logic being used here

True...kobe, Jordan, curry...those guys weren’t known to be the commodities they ended up being like magic, lebron, Shaq, Kareem etc. so us looking at these prospects and saying “there’s no lebron here” doesn’t mean anything to me basically is my overall point.

Just pin this somewhere so we don’t have to have this discussion anymore lol

The mvp caliber player is fine...that’s not lebron and Durant tho. Those are generational talents...top 10 all time guys. And I’m saying we don’t need one of those to win. D wade wasn’t thought of like that coming out but he was a good prospect that matured into the player that he became. Basically what I was saying is I don’t care if we don’t draft the greatest player ever, I just want this player to be a big step towards us contending for championships

Not doing this, you can say that and I can find plenty of examples tonargue the opposite. Let’s jist agree to disagree and move on

Bruh we’re tryin to win championships, I couldn’t care less if we did it with an mvp or not. Just get me the best combination of players possible to get this thing done. Durant didn’t win until he went to golden state. Lebron didn’t win until he went to Miami. I don’t think any of us feel we’re one player away. We just want a great piece to add to the team and keep adding more pieces until the time is right for us to strike.