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Not sire who he is and know you can't really judge off of highlight reels....but looks like a competent point guard who can shoot and distribute. This could be an under radar gem ala spurs signing...hopefully. #postivethoughts.

Yay

One star thread.....jk but F Horford and Celtics.

How is he not a good rebounder and decent rim protector? Sap is better at both...?

I all for getting Harris if we can. If we lose sap in a snt I wont be too upset. Harris is a good player. Better shooter than Carroll and bigger.

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Why doesn't Deandre Jordan get a chance with the National team? He's better than Tyson chandler if you ask me.

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Since when are Canadians not "Americans" ?...sorry I couldn't resist

Hasn't that been the point of all my post? We have our own identity and problems. We can't look at another city and team and try to use their methods for success and try to apply it here. We have our own unique problems that can only be solved by identifying them first then deciding on the best solutions to the problem. While I do believe the San Antonio method best suits us, we have to keep in mind that we have to not only change the team's culture but the fan and league perceptions as well.

And how do we get those players who would be worth such a trade? You guessed it, through the draft. We have to draft a superstar or develop drafted talent worthy enough to be traded for a superstar....which goes hand and hand with trading to move up in the DRAFT to DRAFT a superstar :) But there would have to be a perfect situation for a team to trade away the right to get a potential star player in the DRAFT for a collection on quality players. When was the last time that happen?

I concur, as long as its done smartly and the assets obtained fit into are team strategy. Not just because they have a bigger ''name''.

Once again we are not Boston, not Cleveland, not Houston. We don't have the fan base nor the status around the league that would attract quality veterans. This has been proven time and time again. Where does it stop? The only way this stops is if we do the correct things to change it. We are building a culture of winning but its not going to happen over night. So please stop trying to compare us to other teams and other cities. If we keep doing that we will stay failures and before you know it Seattle will be back in the NBA. I am confident that ferry and the ownership after years of trial and error here in Atlanta knows these FACTS and understand we need to draft, develops, trade, all smartly. And the past two years have only proved that further too me imo

Buying into what hype? When did I ever say anything about hype? Stop trying to read between lines when there is nothing there. I said straight forward what I believe should be done and my opinion of what is being done. "draft well and developing that talent''. We all agree that Dennis has potential and is a good if not great draft pick. He should be given time to develop, we have seen Jeff and we know his strengths and weaknesses, so if he has a coming out party as you say. Why would we trade our younger, prospect who we know nothing about and haven't even given a chance too. If anyone would be traded it would be Jeff. "as a hawks fan'' as if I'm not. Yes we have gone down the road of attempting to develop talent, only problem is we had the wrong ''talent''. Poor draft picks combined with poor leadership breeds failure and that's what we have been for far too long. Jenkins, Scott, Lucas, muscala, Dennis are all quality draft picks who all do something particularly well and know who and what they are. Just because we failed in the past with draft and develops doesn't mean we should just scrap draft picks just because we can. The problem wasn't the method, the problem was the players who were drafted and the coaches, gm and owners not knowing what they are doing. I've said this before and ill say it again. We are not Houston, we are not San Antonio, nor are we the Bobcats. You say don't get caught up in trying to build a championship around draft picks or trying to lure players by trading draft picks all the while suggesting trading draft picks to get players smh? No superstars are coming here, we have to draft ''smartly'' and develop the talent, trade ''smartly'' but don't trade just to trade. Millsap stays while Horford traded for Asik? Why in high heaven would anyone do that? I understand your point of no one being untouchable and if that was point you were simply making I apologize for not comprehending that the first time. But if that was a conscience thought, ill just say again ''Trade smartly''. Horford is better than Millsap. I never knew this was up for debate. Its much different when you actually drafted quality talent then when you draft three small forwards, play them out of position then have two of them being over evaluated while the other is talented but a complete knucklehead. We are slowly constructing a quality team of our players that we either drafted or signed outright. That's the only way ATLANTA will build a contending team. So yes, Trade Dennis? Millsap over Horford for Asik? *shakes head* My avatar is the way I feel sometimes when going through the squawk. That's not I regards to your post I enjoy debating differences of opinions just not when they turn into either person taking slight shots at one another. I hope that doesn't happen here.

Every time I hear some one say "look at Houston" I feel like running head first into a wall because what usually follows that statement is pure nonsense, this is no exception. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to try and compare what our reality is here in Atlanta to some other team's is nonsense. We can continue to lie to ourselves over and over about "dreams" of a superstar o r superstars coming here but we all know that will never happen. The stars would have to align perfectly for that to happen and as far as I can tell we will be waiting a really long time.The only way we get to a championship here in Atlanta is by drafting well and developing that talent, couple that with common sense trades and then we will be moving in the right direction. Atlanta is a bad basketball market and we all know it. It wasn't always this way. It has been polluted by years of poor team, terrible owners, and thousands of transplants who don't want to support a struggling team so they stick with there old ones. Its a perfect storn for a franchise to fail and if we keep with this nonsense of trying to trade for a superstar and trading away talent for "now talent" or whatever it was called. The franchise will fail.We aren't Houston, there is a reason we are attempting the spurs method. Thank god our owners and GM realize what Atlanta is from what it isnt.Trade Dennis? Trade Horford?That makes no sense imo. *shakes head*

Lulz. More like Antić, nogueria at center and brand, muscala at pf. But honestly at this point in his career brand should be playing center more than pf

hes better than brand. The only way I see brand starting over that guy will be due to pure reputation and actual nba experience. But it will become apparent who the better of the two is as the season progresses. They are two diffent type of bigs but I say again, pero will prove to be more efficient in Bud's offense. Mark my words. So just so we have everything in order here for when I send you that I told you so message later let me make a list here.Millsap isnt a sfKorver isnt a sgMillsap only starts if we play small with Al at pf other wise bunch mob for himLou has a greater chance at starting than JenkinsAt starting line-up of teague, korver, millsap, horford, and brand is comical. So is teague, korver, mystery guy, millsap, horfors.I say my starting line-up is the closest thing to what will actually accure and deep down you know it lolKorver at sg is insane, millsap at sf is insane. Not common sense lineups wherw players actually player ther prefered and most efficient positions. Lol what nerve I have to suggest such a thing.Pero will be the starting center, if not day one then eventually.

Hes better than brand. The only way I see brand starting over that guy will be due to pure reputation and actual nba experience. But it will become apparent who the better of the two is

No. Just no

No what's crazy is people who think he should start at sf. I make a prediction now, if millsap doesn't start at sf he will come off the bench. Ill look for you first gane and through out season. ...he will come off bench

Honestly the way I see it isTeagueLouKorverAlPeroSchroederJenkinsCarroll/scottMillsap/ScottBrand/nogueriaYeah I know lou is coming off an injury but its time to see what we have in Jenkins, he is our new six man. I give pero the start over brand because hes younger, more mobile for the pick and roll and solid shooter. Meaning Al can play the pf. I think this makes are first and second units very formidable. Brand and millsap off bench with carrol, jenkins, and Schröder has good offense written all over it and quality defense. Not to mention scott and the possibility of nogueria and we know there qualities. We have quietly assembled a very solid basketball team and I believe a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised by how good we end up being. ..now if thats and good thing *cough treadmill ** thats yet to be determined. But I am excited and I think we're heading in the right direction. No tanking.

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Anyone know if there will be a replay of the game and when for those of us who can't see it live?

Just got home. Is the game not being shown live on NBATV?

Because we don't have weights in America lol