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So we've all flipped out over this year's free agency and he who shall not be named (thanks for the 9 years of service though) broke our collective hearts, but if you take at the look at the Hawks cap situation for 2017- 2018 we can build a champion. Just check out the team below.
Player Position Salary Blake Griffin PF $31,321,650 24% Dwight Howard C $23,500,000 18% Gordan Hayward SF $22,000,000 17% Dennis Schröder PG $17,000,000 13% Kent Bazemore SG $16,910,112 13% Tim Hardway Jr SG $8,000,000 6% Kyle Korver (MLE) SG/SF $5,000,000 4% Tauren Prince SF/PF $2,018,800 2% Hawks Draft Pick PG $1,600,000 1% Hawks Draft Pick C/PF $1,600,000 1% DeAndry Bembry PG/SG/SF $1,306,600 1% Walter Tavares C $1,014,746 1% Mike Muscala PF $1,014,746 1% Isiah Cordenier SG $650,000 0% 0% Estimated Salary $132,936,654 Salary Cap $113,000,000 ($19,936,654) Luxury Tax $133,000,000 $63,346 2017 Cap Hold PLAYER (8) POS. QUALIFYING OFFER CAP FIGURE Tiago Splitter PF $12,375,000 $12,375,000 Kyle Korver SG $9,922,500 $9,922,500 Thabo Sefolosha SF $7,315,000 $7,315,000 Dennis Schröder PG $3,824,518 $6,771,456 Mike Scott PF $6,333,335 $6,333,335 Tim Hardaway Jr. SG $3,335,707 $5,704,014 Lamar Patterson SG $1,268,433 $1,268,433 Mike Muscala PF $1,014,746 $1,014,746 Could it go head to head with any team in the NBA? I believe it can. Only problem is our Bench isn't the strongest at the PF and Center position unless Moose and Eddy show stark improvement. However, I see Eddy as being pretty good defensively then and that's all we need from him. We can find a veteran back up point guard for Dennis either this year or next.
We can afford ANY max player next year ( Iknow they may not choose the Hawks) and dish out for a great number two. I just choose Griffin and Heyword because they'd be my choice.
So do you think this team can rule the East and do the unthinkable and win it all? Also, what would your 2017-2018 potential Atlanta Hawks Championship Roster look like.
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Looks like Al's staying. Now let's see what happens. I really hate to see Milsap leave, but if he does we'll have to keep Tiago because Eddy ain't ready!
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Boston and Washington have rapidly lost hope of Al Horford leaving the Hawks, league sources tell
@TheVertical.Looks like Al's stayng home!
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12 minutes ago, Kimsey said:
Just cause the Hawks can give Al 150+ million doesn't mean they will or even close that figure or years. They have holes at both guard positions.
I realize that. Which is why I said they can do it. Some think the Hawks can only sign Howard and that's it. The Hawks have tons of options. Most likely they will bring Al back at around 23 - 24 million over 5 years.
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35 minutes ago, Kimsey said:
Firstly, welcome home Dwight. A few years too late but it's lit now.
I don't see how the Hawks will meet Al's salary demands. Al should do us a solid and help with a sign and trade if at all possible.
Dennis
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Kyle
Sap
Dwight
We need that swingman and I'm not talking Baze.
I realize none of you are salary cap experts. The Hawks can give AL a five year max AND sign a SG (Baze / Eric Gordon?) or trade for Jimmy Butler (the salary works). By trading Splitter and not reupping Mike Scott.
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14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
We have about $6 mil left after Al's caphold and I've figured $22 for D12, so if Splitter is traded that's $14 for Baze.
Don't forget we can cut Scott for 3.3 millioon so we can have $17 million for Baze (if we want to go that route).
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This just means that Al, Sap, or Howard will come off the bench. Al and Sap play about 32 minutes per game which leaves 32 minutes for Dwight.
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1 minute ago, gsuteke said:
24 for Howard isn't looking like all that much against some of the numbers I'm seeing being handed out today
Considering that you most likely trade splitter in that Scenario ($8.5) - Net $15.5 for Dwight as an off the bench player getting starter minutes, I'm ok with. I would not be ok with Dwight w/o Al and starting. I believe coming off the bench will keep him healthy longer during the season.
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3 minutes ago, IheartFerry said:
Minnesota is on the verge of being pretty good. That picks value probably will not be very much
I agree, but Minnie's in the West being pretty good won't get you very far. Also, this is completely hypothetical. I was saying if you added Butler through that trade to the hypothetical team mentioned above then the Hawks would have a good chance and being on Cleveland's level.
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2 minutes ago, IheartFerry said:
How is Splitter and THjr a fair trade for Butler?
If Chicago's going full tank, the first round pick from Minnesota in next year's draft is the ultimate prize. Chicago does not have a back up center and Tiago doesn't tie up cap space. Thjr is a good prize because he's young and cheap.
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Just now, Hotlanta1981 said:
I don't think Chicago is going to trade Jimmy Butler now. I mean, they're rebuilding but they want to hold onto something I would guess.
Just heard on NBA TV they are willing to shop him for the right price. I think that would be a fair trade if they are doing a full tank. Although, the talking heads probably just put that out there. If it's a possibility, we could have two to three LeBron stoppers (slower downers) on the team.
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It will if you add Jimmy Butler by trading Splitter and THjr and cutting Mike Scott and a first round pick (Minnesota's)? to the Bulls.
You could also afford a great back up point guard or a ryan anderson (to replace MS) in this scenario.
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Lakers 4 year $65 million for Timothy Mosgov per Woj Vertical.
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Bradley Beal Wizards 5 year $122 million.
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Looks like the wizards are about to ink Bradley Beal to 5 year 133 Million deal. Hold on to your hockey sticks cause it's going to get crazy!
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Teams that have inquired with Kent Bazemore's agent since midnight under impression it might take $19M-$20M per year to sign him.
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10 minutes ago, hazer said:
Most excited I've been in a long time. Moved Teague, Shredder finally gets his chance, tried to package 12/21 to move up into top 5, drafted well when they couldn't. You're getting all worked up over unsubstantiated reports being put out by fanpages and agents. 1-star thread.....
If I could like this 1,000,000 times I would. The Hawks have a NO LEAKS policy. Just cause someone on the internet puts a story out there does not make it true. All these sites are just putting out click bait. If you've noticed, you've only heard the Hawks are pursuing D12. I'm pretty sure his agent put that out there. We are probably pursuing a lot more than D12. I can't wait for the clock to strike midnight so this foolishness will be over.
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1 minute ago, kg01 said:
What the ...? Based on what?
Based on his ability to score from the point position AND he's cheap.
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I agree. If all it takes is a second rounder sign me up!
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My apologies if these stories have been posted.
Looks like NY is looking to trade or cut Jared Jack. - http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/06/29/report-utah-making-point-guard-trey-burke-available-in-trades/
Utah is looking to trade Trey Burke (possibly for a second rounder?) - http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/06/29/report-nets-shopping-point-guard-jarrett-jack-if-cant-find-partner-will-waive-him/
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16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
I don't mind cheap and injured but Wilson isn't exactly cheap.
You're correct! He is not cheap. He costs about $12 million per season, but the way the cap is going up and if he can stay healthy, that may be a steal. I really thought Gillenari was the Denver forward who stayed injured and Wilson's injury was the first of his career.
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4 minutes ago, kg01 said:
It takes a special(sic) kind of dude to commit violence against a woman. I'd rather we go with a different backup pg as well.
We've all been pushed (so to speak) by a woman in heated situations so, although we don't know the details, I'm not positive we need to know the details in order to be turned off at the prospect of having the guy on our team.
I hear you though. What if he was simply over-charged for what was actually a non-physical , yet heated argument? It's possible. There's certainly value in having all the facts. I just feel like that'd be a sh*tty charge to level against a guy in the absence of clear "evidence" so i consider that an unlikely scenario.
I say it takes a special kind of person (man or woman) to hit anyone. Woman abuse men too. It's just not reported as much and seen differently in society's eyes.
I agree with you wholeheartedly though. I just don't think the kid should be labeled a "wifebeater" before all the details come out.
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13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Wilson Chandler is also always injured.
You know I love my players with injury history. Ha. I just want to get some good players on the cheap, but that would always bite you in the butt.
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What if the Hawks KNEW AL wasn't committed and went ahead with their contingency plan? If he stayed, then they could make other moves. If he didn't we have a starting caliber (if not all star) Center and All NBA powerforward either way.