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  1. 48 minutes ago, jmac54 said:

    Management clearly should have traded Paul before free agency. Then offered Horford the max. Then signed Dwight. Because if we offer Horford the max then sign Dwight. Horford has no choice but to suck it up and play along D12.

    OR

    Kept Paul.....Offer Horford The Max Immediately on July 1. Then Try to go after Noah. And then Al would have been super ecstatic. 

    Dwight better impress within the first half of this upcoming season or I think we should start over from scratch and just get rid of Paul and Dwight and really hit the reset button. 

    The only good I see coming out of this whole off season. Is if Dwight really returns to a former shade of his old Orlando days. Paul is going to have a career year because it's a contract year for him.....just watch....Bazemore will have to improve and Dennis will have to act as if he's been in the League for like 8 years already.....that's asking a lot...also Splitter has to go.

    What if the Hawks KNEW AL wasn't committed and went ahead with their contingency plan? If he stayed, then they could make other moves. If he didn't we have a starting caliber (if not all star) Center and All NBA powerforward either way.

  2. So we've all flipped out over this year's free agency and he who shall not be named (thanks for the 9 years of service though) broke our collective hearts, but if you take at the look at the Hawks cap situation for 2017- 2018 we can build a champion.  Just check out the team below.  

    Player Position               Salary  
    Blake Griffin PF               $31,321,650 24%
    Dwight Howard C               $23,500,000 18%
    Gordan Hayward SF               $22,000,000 17%
    Dennis Schröder PG               $17,000,000 13%
    Kent Bazemore SG               $16,910,112 13%
    Tim Hardway Jr SG               $8,000,000 6%
    Kyle Korver (MLE) SG/SF               $5,000,000 4%
    Tauren Prince SF/PF               $2,018,800 2%
    Hawks Draft Pick PG               $1,600,000 1%
    Hawks Draft Pick C/PF               $1,600,000 1%
    DeAndry Bembry PG/SG/SF               $1,306,600 1%
    Walter Tavares C               $1,014,746 1%
    Mike Muscala PF               $1,014,746 1%
    Isiah Cordenier SG               $650,000 0%
                        0%
                         
                    Estimated Salary $132,936,654  
                    Salary Cap $113,000,000  
                      ($19,936,654)  
                         
                    Luxury Tax $133,000,000  
                      $63,346  
                         
                         
                         
                         
    2017 Cap Hold                    
    PLAYER (8) POS.         QUALIFYING OFFER CAP FIGURE      
    Tiago Splitter PF         $12,375,000 $12,375,000      
    Kyle Korver SG         $9,922,500 $9,922,500      
    Thabo Sefolosha SF         $7,315,000 $7,315,000      
    Dennis Schröder PG         $3,824,518 $6,771,456      
    Mike Scott PF         $6,333,335 $6,333,335      
    Tim Hardaway Jr. SG         $3,335,707 $5,704,014      
    Lamar Patterson SG         $1,268,433 $1,268,433      
    Mike Muscala PF         $1,014,746 $1,014,746      

     

    Could it go head to head with any team in the NBA? I believe it can.  Only problem is our Bench isn't the strongest at the PF and Center position unless Moose and Eddy show stark improvement.  However, I see Eddy as being pretty good defensively then and that's all we need from him.  We can find a veteran back up point guard for Dennis either this year or next. 

    We can afford ANY max player next year ( Iknow they may not choose the Hawks) and dish out for a great number two.  I just choose Griffin and Heyword because they'd be my choice.  

    So do you think this team can rule the East and do the unthinkable and win it all?  Also, what would your 2017-2018 potential Atlanta Hawks Championship Roster look like.

  3. 12 minutes ago, Kimsey said:

    Just cause the Hawks can give Al 150+ million doesn't mean they will or even close that figure or years. They have holes at both guard positions. 

    I realize that.  Which is why I said they can do it. Some think the Hawks can only sign Howard and that's it.  The Hawks have tons of options.   Most likely they will bring Al back at around 23 - 24 million over 5 years. 

  4. 35 minutes ago, Kimsey said:

    Firstly, welcome home Dwight. A few years too late but it's lit now.

    I don't see how the Hawks will meet Al's salary demands. Al should do us a solid and help with a sign and trade if at all possible.

    Dennis

    ???

    Kyle

    Sap

    Dwight

     

    We need that swingman and I'm not talking Baze.

    I realize none of you are salary cap experts.  The Hawks can give AL a five year max AND sign a SG (Baze / Eric Gordon?) or trade for Jimmy Butler (the salary works). By trading Splitter and not reupping Mike Scott. 

  5. 1 minute ago, gsuteke said:

    24 for Howard isn't looking like all that much against some of the numbers I'm seeing being handed out today 

    Considering that you most likely trade splitter in that Scenario ($8.5)   - Net $15.5 for Dwight as an off the bench player getting starter minutes, I'm ok with.  I would not be ok with Dwight w/o Al and starting.  I believe coming off the bench will keep him healthy longer during the season. 

  6. 3 minutes ago, IheartFerry said:

    Minnesota is on the verge of being pretty good. That picks value probably will not be very much

    I agree, but Minnie's in the West being pretty good won't get you very far.  Also, this is completely hypothetical.  I was saying if you added Butler through that trade to the hypothetical team mentioned above then the Hawks would have a good chance and being on Cleveland's level. 

  7. 2 minutes ago, IheartFerry said:

    How is Splitter and THjr a fair trade for Butler?

    If Chicago's going full tank, the first round pick from Minnesota in next year's draft is the ultimate prize.  Chicago does not have a back up center and Tiago doesn't tie up cap space.   Thjr is a good prize because he's young and cheap. 

  8. Just now, Hotlanta1981 said:

    I don't think Chicago is going to trade Jimmy Butler now. I mean, they're rebuilding but they want to hold onto something I would guess.

    Just heard on NBA TV they are willing to shop him for the right price.  I think that would be a fair trade if they are doing a full tank.  Although, the talking heads probably just put that out there.  If it's a possibility, we could have two to three LeBron stoppers (slower downers) on the team. 

  9. It will if you add Jimmy Butler by trading Splitter and THjr and cutting Mike Scott and a first round pick (Minnesota's)?  to the Bulls.

    You could also afford a great back up point guard  or a ryan anderson (to replace MS) in this scenario.

  10. 10 minutes ago, hazer said:

    Most excited I've been in a long time. Moved Teague, Shredder finally gets his chance, tried to package 12/21 to move up into top 5, drafted well when they couldn't. You're getting all worked up over unsubstantiated reports being put out by fanpages and agents. 1-star thread.....

    If I could like this 1,000,000 times I would.  The Hawks have a NO LEAKS policy.  Just cause someone on the internet puts a story out there does not make it true.  All these sites are just putting out click bait.  If you've noticed, you've only heard the Hawks are pursuing D12. I'm pretty sure his agent put that out there.  We are probably pursuing a lot more than D12.  I can't wait for the clock to strike midnight so this foolishness will be over.  

  11. 16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

    I don't mind cheap and injured but Wilson isn't exactly cheap.

    You're correct! He is not cheap.  He costs about $12 million per season, but the way the cap is going up and if he can stay healthy, that may be a steal.  I really thought Gillenari was the Denver forward who stayed injured and Wilson's injury was the first of his career. 

  12. 4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

    It takes a special(sic) kind of dude to commit violence against a woman.  I'd rather we go with a different backup pg as well.

    We've all been pushed (so to speak) by a woman in heated situations so, although we don't know the details, I'm not positive we need to know the details in order to be turned off at the prospect of having the guy on our team.

    I hear you though.  What if he was simply over-charged for what was actually a non-physical , yet heated argument?  It's possible.  There's certainly value in having all the facts.  I just feel like that'd be a sh*tty charge to level against a guy in the absence of clear "evidence" so i consider that an unlikely scenario.

    I say it takes a special kind of person (man or woman)  to hit anyone.  Woman abuse men too. It's just not reported as much and seen differently in society's eyes.   

    I agree with you wholeheartedly though. I just don't think the kid should be labeled a "wifebeater" before all the details come out. 

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