StonedDogs

Just get rid of Landry and Kyle. God I can't stand Arthur Blank and Ressler! These guys are clueless about pro sports. 

All I want is for the billionaire owner to not be cheap. Im sure he gave Star way more than Hawks players combined. But maybe these players don't deserve it.

I want the owner to stop meddling. Kick his son out of any sports activities 

Find and pay a GM to run this team. 

Snyder has to go because Nate was better. (Sorry Ray Young)

Trae has to go man. Can't build around a 6"0 pg. 

7 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Why do you feel bad for Quin?  He's failing coaching wise too, with some of these trash lineups he's putting out on the floor.

I feel bad he took this team as a job. Quin needs a good cast to perform. 

Landry Fields was never a GM. No where near it. Banging on the table and pointing around the room when he drafted Bufkin, I knew this team had no chance.  Lets shake the team up because its not getting past Bucks, Pacers, Heat, Celtics in a 7 game series currently constructed. 

I feel bad for Quinn. Dude doesn't deserve this

I was told Pierce and Nate was the problem. 

Then was told Trae was the problem...

Who is the problem now?

This is Hawks F O 

1 hour ago, Chrimturn said:

Bright side, 53 to go.  Finish 33-20, end up 45-37.  It could take 50…but 45 just might make the 6.  

…Maybe.  Lol.

Its possible. Not like the guys are getting blown out. 

FO just have a lot of work to do. They dont have the guys to build this team imo. 

LF x KK are so cringy to know they make personnel decisions with Resslers in the cut. This team has a long way to go. 

I dont think he blows up with Dame, Giannis, Lopez, Middleton all players better than him by a long mile and playing for his daddy.

That trade would not help either team 

21 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

what do you want to do to start over?

Trade Landry Fields and Kyle Korver for one. They will never be it

1 hour ago, terrell said:

I guess Quin saw what were seeing now.. He stinks

But dont worrt, we have this years 1st rdr Bumkin to look forward too... Geez

Lol my friend I will never forget this night when Landy Fields thought he drafted the second coming of Kobe Bean Bryant. Our GM and front office is so trash I hate admit it. I am glad Trae threes are falling though 

19 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I'm confused.  Are folks saying that Trae has physically declined?  Are folks not watching or do they not understand what they're seeing? 

He's currently in his prime years is what folks are saying. How long do we have this window to experiment, see who fits, see who don't with Trae? We cannot continue to waste these next set of years because that speed will start to decline as new, younger, bigger, faster, and stronger comes kids come through the doors.  

Our GMs are trash. I have to say it. 

16 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Chris Paul is in year 19 and producing at a high level.

Trae is in year 6

 

So to me, he can still have another 4 babies and a ton of opportunities for rings  

@bleachkit check on math on that please.

Chris Paul also had a grandfather that died at the age of 61 and he scored 61 the following game after his passing. Chris Paul is different and was different in high school, college and early on. He's definitely playing at a high level but definitely not producing at a high level. 

He also highly loved and respected on team USA. We're still trying to get Trae to get love for the circus all star game. 

7 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Trae could walk on water then turn it to wine and the same ol', lame 'ol posters would complain he didn't turn it into gasoline. 

Some people actually really believes a man walked on water and fermented grapes in a day and turned it into wine. 

Trae is a great, lightening quick point guard. So was Chris Paul at one point. So was A.I. So was White Chocolate....So was John Wall. 

I just hope he gets a ring because the decline happens quick with the little guards. He's 6 years in on baby #2 

37 minutes ago, akay said:

Dude just went for 41/8, setting up nearly every play he was on the court and got us the win. IDK what you people see in him lol

Welp, 27 shots I expect 40 you do the math. 

If you took 30 you'd probably score 15 against Magic

8 minutes ago, terrell said:

27 shots

Oh my bad. Still a lot. It was so obvious he thinks Mexico was there for him and him only. BUT there was a mural and a court so maybe Mexico was to showcase Trae Young. I just dont see what others around here see in him. 

5 minutes ago, Diesel said:

41, 8, and 5 on 44% shooting...  Where are the haters?

No one hates him man. He just plays hero ball too much and in reality some of us know he cannot lead us to a ring. This team just isnt built for it this year or next with the same roster. Thats a reality you will have to accept.

He's still a chucker, 5-15 3pt, 25 shots and we inched by a beat up Magic team with his best performance. Cmon man. And yes Trae thinks this whole Mexico trip was about him but he put on a show

11 hours ago, warcore said:

Reminds me of you only coming around to say something like this after his worst game

He's actually had a worst game this season bud. Maybe two.  [It would be a mistake to] just keep rolling out what we have and hopefully get lucky....

16 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Yep. I don't even care about his shooting as mentioned many times in the past. It's his shot selection and that's substantially better than previous years. People are sleeping on how improved Trae is this year. 

A more tamed Trae, a system Trae, a less chucker Trae with a somewhat happy dad looks like an avg pg in todays NBA to me. He looks mid. I know, we all love Trae. He's our city superstar. But he's been trash I have to keep it real man. 

As Atlanta fans we're so loyal to our superstars because we know they dont come around often. I feel Trae doesn't fit this system. 

Well that was ugly but every game cant be pretty. And luckily we're only in the very beginning 

What were these guards doing all summer? I know Brunson played overseas but geez is that what our guards need to do moving forward? Play pickup overseas games over pickup lifetime fitness games where you cannot double team? 

Emani Bates fell into our laps though but our philosophical, latte GM. Kid is going to be special

I just hope we can get Manek on the roster. He's played college, played overseas. His experience at a young age will be so beneficial. 

I love DJM locked in and committed to be the leader. We need that 

On 7/7/2023 at 4:26 PM, AHF said:

You mix in legit issues with seemingly meaningless pot shots like asking what trophies Trae has won.  Know how many trophies John Stockton won?  Didn't make him unfit for international play.  That is just a silly shot like your ad hominem attack.  

Issues like adjusting to the ball, to the different interpretations of traveling, to the court size, etc. apply to every American player who didn't grow up in Europe (i.e., all of them) so those aren't a strike against Trae anymore than any one else. 

On needing "elite defense" for international play, first clearly that doesn't apply to the full roster.  We've had plenty of weak defenders at various positions over the years for the US like Camelo Anthony, aging Kemba Walker, Donovan Mitchell, Paolo Banchero, Austin Reaves, AI, Starbury, Russell Westbrook, Dame, etc.  

As far as Trae being "shoot first" and unable to play with others, he has had two opportunities playing with other stars.  Those were the 2020 and 2022 All-Star games.  Both times he led his team in assists (and it wasn't close).  Playing with ultra talented teammates he put up 20 assists in 34 minutes.  By comparison, Luka Doncic played over 41 minutes and put up 7 assists in those same games (Steph Curry put up 2 assists in 36 minutes).  No idea why you think him whipping out his visa would mean losing his extraordinary passing ability.  It was his best talent from day 1 in the league and remains his best talent.

I think there is room for debate as to who gets selected but your general dislike of Trae seems to be coloring some of this.

All of your points are great. I rather Trae just focus on us. Come in season fresh legs. We're gonna need to start off strong this coming season. 

@AHF I don't know why this site won't let me quote other user's posts

But to your point, those guards you named were born and baked into international play. These guys were playing pro ball in their teens. 

Trae's biggest accomplishment trophy wise was what, high school basketball in Oklahoma? 

We all can say the three point line is shorter and easier but you have to one, get your shot off quick in zone D and two, get used to the ball. All nba players Im sure will say that ball is different. 

As far as passing, Trae is not a Kidd. He's a shoot first pg we all know it and in my opinion it just wouldn't work on this team that is built on your starters must play elite defense. Again, the floor isn't spaced out like nba and you can't just run pick n roll with Trae against international defenses. Those teams are too smart and well coached. 

On top of the refs actually call travels across the pond. Trae would be frustrated alone off the refs let alone the way he is coached

@TheNorthCydeRises and dude Patty grew up against pro international players. He was a veteran in his teens lol.

The NBA was much easier for him. I believe Luka said the same thing