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    Pheonix troll

    Quote: Quote: excellent post How did you feel about his multiple posts cheering our players' injuries? He did it when Marvin got injured, when Claxton got injured, etc. He tried to excuse it by saying that he only was happy about it because his team gets a higher pick. If that sort of behavior is tolerated, then I would like to say that I am actively hoping for a career-ending injury to Nash or Stoudamire. In fact, I hope one of them is paralyzed in a car wreck. My desire for that sort of injury is quite acceptable, because I would only be happy about it because the troll wouldn't come on the board as frequently. And it's easy to cheer for injuries to happen to someone you don't know. Following this train of logic, I could cut out the middleman, and hope for another injury to someone I don't know: phx_suns. I hope he's terribly injured, very soon, and he loses the ability to type. Classy, isn't it? :P Zach, COME ON. Clearly you understand that I was agreeing with his evaluation of some of the posters on Hawksquawk being worse than him for the way they talk about our franchise. The Kudos OBVIOUSLY had nothing to do with him celebrating our players injuries. He can lick Bigfoots taint for that.
  2. The top coaching candidates, 1 to 25By Chris Sheridan ESPN.com Archive Editor's note: This article was published on January 23, shortly before the Minnesota fired coach Dwane Casey and hired Randy Wittman as the new Timberwolves coach. Rick Adelman is still keeping up with the Sacramento Kings when he's not flipping the channel to watch the Phoenix Suns and San Antonio Spurs, the two teams he finds most pleasing to the eye. But the teams that Adelman is following even more closely are a pair of high school squads in Oregon, one of which, Lincoln, is coached by his son, David, and the other of which, Lake Oswego, brings his youngest son, Patrick, off the bench. Rick Adelman may not be done coaching in the NBA. "David's team only won six games all last season, and they've already won seven this year, and Patrick is playing with Kevin Love, who's up there with O.J. Mayo atop the high school prospects list," said Adelman, who is getting to keep much closer tabs on all six of his children -- not to mention his five grandchildren -- as he sits out the 2006-07 season wondering if and when he'll be asked to coach again in the league where he accumulated 752 career coaching victories before being let go at the end of last season by the Kings. "We did a good job at the end of the year, but it ended up not meaning much," said Adelman, who still sounded resentful, but not quite bitter, after being let go in Sacramento after eight years at the helm, each season ending in a playoff loss. "You always have that interest in how is it going to work out now, and I still follow them. They certainly have the talent to make the playoffs. "I'm still just eight months removed from it, so I'm trying to give it some time. They say the biggest stress in your life comes from leaving a job or moving, and I've done both. So we're just trying to settle down and see where we're at, see what comes around," Adelman said. "I can still coach in this league." Adelman went on to say that he is considering hiring an agent for the first time, realizing there's a crowded field of candidates out there that he expects to be competing against in the not-too-distant future. The ever-growing size of that crowd of candidates is why we've put together a Top 25 list of the coaches most likely to get a gig leading an NBA team sometime over the next two years. The list below includes all kinds of different candidates -- Hall of Famers, local heroes, college coaches, young assistants with a growing rep, and lifers who are looking for their next opportunity. Some appear to be in the right place at the right time, while others are waiting for the carousel to come back around. The rankings are only a snapshot of the way things look in mid-January 2007. Coming into the season, no one had Tony Barone and Ron Rothstein at the top of the list. Things change quickly in the NBA coaching game. All that said, the top spot goes to someone with a championship ring, lots of wins and plenty of experience, everyone's favorite coaching vagabond ... 1. Larry Brown It seems inevitable that the former 76ers coach and top exec, freshly installed as Philadelphia's newest front office VP, eventually will take over Billy King's job as team president or Maurice Cheeks' job as head coach (or both). When ESPN.com asked King earlier this month to refute the notion that Brown will be coaching the 76ers by this time next year, he stormed off without answering. 2. Rick Adelman The 60-year-old said the toughest adjustment he's had to make in his first season out of the NBA since 1997-98 is living without a tight schedule. He said he would consider a front office position if one was offered. "When you've been in the league as long as I was, it gets in your blood. Right now it's just a matter of seeing how things fall," said Adelman. 3. Marc Iavaroni The Suns assistant is considered almost a sure thing to join the Toronto Raptors next year after Sam Mitchell finishes out the final year of his contract. The Raptors could hire him tomorrow if they wanted to, but under the terms of the agreement that brought former Phoenix GM Bryan Colangelo to Toronto, it'd cost the Raptors $3 million -- a price tag that drops to $0 at the end of this season. Iavaroni also has been mentioned as a leading candidate to replace interim coach Barone in Memphis, though the instability in the Grizzlies' organization might make that job too risky for a coach taking in his first job. 4. Mike Fratello Not yet a month removed from his firing by the Grizzlies, Fratello already is being described by his agent as "eager" to be back on the sidelines. One scenario that makes some sense is in Miami, where Fratello was a longtime broadcaster and once considered a coach in waiting. If Riley steps down permanently, Fratello could supplant Rothstein. 5. Lenny Wilkens The winningest coach in NBA history (1,332 career victories) is a color commentator for the Seattle SuperSonics, which he's coached twice before, leading the Sonics to their only NBA title in 1979. He also has recently joined the front office as a confidant for new owner Clay Bennett. If Seattle were to fire Bob Hill, whose status is far from secure, it would make sense to put Wilkens in charge for the time being while the franchise figures out the bigger question of whether it's staying in Seattle long term. 6. Del Harris The silver-haired sage, a former head coach for three teams over 14 seasons, has told those close to him that he has the itch to be a head coach again as he spends his seventh consecutive season as an assistant for the Dallas Mavericks. His age (69) would figure to be working against him. Then again, Hubie Brown was 69 when Memphis hired him in 2002. 7. P.J. Carlesimo It has now been more than nine years since the infamous choking incident with Latrell Sprewell in Golden State, and Carlesimo, now an assistant coach in San Antonio, still hasn't landed another top job. The closest he came was two years ago when he interviewed in Minnesota but lost out to Dwane Casey. 8. Randy Wittman Casey's lead assistant for Minnesota, he is on his third tour of duty as a Timberwolves assistant. If Casey is let go, Wittman is assumed to be the man who would take over -- even though owner Glen Taylor is said to have told Wittman last summer he was not being hired as a coach-in-waiting. 9. Jay Wright The trend of bringing college coaches into the NBA has slowed in recent years, and Mike Montgomery did little in Golden State to encourage continued use of the formula. But someone will eventually go that route again, and Wright, the head coach at Villanova, is said to have the perfect temperament to be effective in the pros. 10. Tom Thibodeau Houston Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy often has said he's baffled why no one has taken a closer look at Thibodeau, his top assistant, now in his 17th NBA season. Over the past two years, Thibodeau's Rockets teams are 10-0 in summer league play. 11. Bill Laimbeer He's coached the WNBA's Detroit Shock to two championships, but is ready for a new challenge. The former Detroit Bad Boy interviewed to be the Knicks' head coach in 2005 but was passed over in favor of Larry Brown. "It's the logical next step," Laimbeer told ESPN.com. "I'm running my course in the WNBA, but what else is there to accomplish?" 12. Jeff Bzdelik He was never totally on the same page with the front office in Denver, which fired him early in the 2004-05 season, but Bzdelik is still one of the most respected young basketball minds out there. He has Air Force (18-2) ranked No. 13 in the USA Today/ESPN Top 25. 13. Erik Spoelstra The Miami assistant coach burst onto the national radar this season when Pat Riley anointed him the next great young coach, a moniker he has also dispensed to a couple of Van Gundys through the years. Spoelstra, 35, is the son of longtime NBA executive Jon Spoelstra and the grandson of Detroit baseball writer Watson Spoelstra. 14. Johnny Davis He is the lead assistant to Rick Carlisle in Indiana. And if Carlisle ever pulls a Jermaine O'Neal and starts to consider the possibility of plying his trade elsewhere, Johnny D., once the head coach in Philadelphia and Orlando, would be the favorite to take over. 15. Jim O'Brien As it turns out, the former Celtics and Sixers coach will go down as the last guy to have any success coaching Allen Iverson in Philadelphia. His 182-158 record and three playoff appearances in three full seasons figure to count in his favor. Currently writing for ESPN.com. 16. Patrick Ewing If and when the time comes for the New York Knicks to cut their ties with Isiah Thomas, it makes sense that they would bring in a franchise icon as their next coach although Ewing's work ethic as a Rockets assistant was questioned. 17. Herb Williams He's always a plausible fallback candidate in New York, where he's served twice before as interim head coach. If Ewing were brought in to coach the Knicks, the guy doing most of the heavy lifting probably would be Ewing's old teammate. Remember, Knicks owner James Dolan has vowed to oust Thomas if the team does not show significant progress. 18. Scott Brooks If Eric Musselman gets fired in Sacramento, the Maloof brothers may choose to promote the 11-year NBA veteran and fourth-year assistant who spent three seasons in Denver working under Jeff Bzdelik and George Karl before moving to Sacramento prior to this season. 19. Paul Westhead One of the NBA's early practitioners of the run-and-gun style, and head coach for the Showtime Lakers' first title, he's now the coach of the WNBA's Phoenix Mercury. As more and more NBA teams embrace that pace, Westhead wonders -- much like Dan Issel is wondering -- why no one believes he can have success with his methods in the NBA today. 20. John Lucas He's built a cottage industry rehabbing players at his facility in Houston, where he currently has Steve Francis making 1,000 jump shots per day, but Lucas yearns to be a head coach again after stints in San Antonio, Philadelphia and Cleveland. "You got to put me No. 1 on that list, Chris," he said. 21. Paul Silas Like Lucas, he hasn't coached since losing his job in Cleveland. Now building a house in Charlotte after spending last season as an ESPN commentator, Silas wants to coach again. 22. Stan Van Gundy When he stepped down last season in Miami, the Heat tacked an extra year and $1 million on his contract and forbade him from speaking publicly. Curiously, his name was not mentioned at the news conference when Riley announced he was taking a leave of absence. 23. Tony Brown There are those who believe Danny Ainge would take over on the bench in Boston if he fired Doc Rivers, but sources say this longtime assistant, who has a seven-year playing career in the '80s, would be more likely. 24. Keith Smart Golden State coach Don Nelson recently endorsed the Warriors assistant as his eventual successor. Meanwhile, Smart is still waiting for his second chance after going 9-31 as the interim replacement for Lucas in Cleveland the year before LeBron James arrived. Smart edges out Dean Demopoulos in Portland, Alex English in Toronto, Alvin Gentry in Phoenix, Bill Cartwright in New Jersey, Phil Johnson in Utah, Michael Malone in Cleveland and Larry Krystowiak in Milwaukee for the final assistant's spot on this list. 25. Sasha Djordjevic Hailed as the best of the young generation of Serbian coaches, he's currently with Armani Jeans Milano in Italy. Played eight games for Portland in 1996-97. Djordjevic edges out two Italians, CSKA Moscow's Ettore Messina and Unicaja Malaga's Sergio Scariolo, as the European representative on this list. Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider. To e-mail Chris, click here.
  3. Im pretty much up for any deal involving Michael Vick being traded.
  4. Last nights results: Lascar 40%, Nicholasp 30%, jerrywest 30%, hawksfanatic 40%, godawgs21 50%, northcyde 40%. I gave a few of you credit for picking the over on josh smith blocks. I should have put the line at 3.5 or 4.5. Lets see if any of you can get 60% tonight. Hawks win? Joe Johnson 23 points +/- Royal Ivey 3 points +/- Josh Childress 15 points +/- Marvin shooting 35% from the field +/- Total number of 3's made by Hawks 4.5 +/- Gerald Wallace 9.5 rebounds +/- Adam Morrison 18 points +/- Shelden Williams 6.5 rebounds +/- Josh Smith 3.5 blocks +/- Good Luck!
  5. Quote: Are we supposed to give a +/- number or just state "over" or "under" for each number? I am confused. Its an over, under.
  6. I tried this against Minny, but posted it about 15 minutes before tip off. This should give everyone ample time to respond. Hawks win by 5 +/- Joe Johnson 28 points +/- Solomon Jones 9 minutes of playing time +/- Joe Johnson 6 assists +/- Josh Childress 9 rebounds +/- Shelden Williams 7 rebounds +/- Adam Morrison 16 points +/- Salim Stoudamire 10 points +/- Marvin Williams 15 points +/- Josh Smith 4 blocks +/-
  7. to Pittsburgh for reliever Mike Gonzalez and a player to be named.
  8. Here are a few self-made lines for tonights game. Squawker with the most correct answers gets a box of state fair corn dogs...or bragging rights. This sports book closes at tipoff! Joe Johnson total points scored +/- 24 Josh Childress total rebounds +/- 8 Josh Smith total number blocks+rebounds+points +/- 24 Solomon Jones playing time +/- 10 minutes Final Score Over/Under 190 Hawks total points at halftime +/- 42 Kevin Garnett total points +/- 30 Good Luck!
  9. shock

    Josh Childress

    Ladies and Gentlemen....GSUTEKE!!! -silence-
  10. shock

    Josh Childress

    What a game! 23 points and 14 boards. With all the whiners on this board that complain 24/7 about our players, Woody, BK, Atlanta Spirit, I thought Chillz performance was worthy of a thread. Go Hawks. Keep up the good play Josh.
  11. DJlaysitup, got that quote from steel magnolias, eh?
  12. I would think Joe Johnson is the best all around player on the team, not Childress. Joe didnt make the Olympic squad just by being a scorer. But it's nice to see a positive post!
  13. ummm...Will Ferrell??
  14. I dont watch the Titans much, so is the 51% a product of having bad receivers/lineman, or is he just not making the throws? Im sure its not play calling, because I think Jeff Fisher is one of the top 5 coaches in the NFL
  15. Well nobody in the league is good enough to win games by themselves. Not even Tomlinson. So why hold that against a rookie QB? I dont think anyone is claiming he is the MVP of the league, but good grief, the guy has obviously earned the praise he has been getting.
  16. If they beat New England would you still think Vince Young is overrated?
  17. I know some of the receiver havent panned out but rich mckay can draft with the best of em. He is widely regarded around the league as being in the top 3 GMs in the NFL. He makes smart decisions, draft picks, etc... That being said, I think we should trade Vick to a team like Oakland and get a bunch of draft picks in return. Remember when Dallas traded Herchel to Minny for picks? Well they drafted well and won super bowls with those players. We could potentially do that here. Just my opinion.
  18. Was at the spurs/twolves game tonight, and let me just say: Randy Foye is an excellent rookie PG. I dont post this as a knee jerk reaction to speedys lousy game tonight, just letting you guys know that I saw foye in person and the guy is a legit PG. Very calm and comfortable with the ball, penetrates and dishes, has a good looking shot. If the Hawks were to make some kind of trade for a PG this year (not saying they need to) I would want Foye because he is young, affordable, and a really good player. Like I said, I saw him play tonight, and its the only time ive ever watched him play a game in the NBA, but in my judgement he is a tremendous player.
  19. The biggest problem with AJC writers (besides being no-talent assclowns) is that they have no allegiance to the home teams. The Falcons, Hawks, Bulldogs, and Braves are teams they wait to feast on instead of lift up. I know that negative posting is sometimes good to "stir the pot", but these guys live off the failures of our favorite teams. You would never see these types of writers in Boston continue to have a job. Shaugnessy (sp?), Ryan, MacMullin, Adande and others LOVE their teams, these writers simply dont are about them. AJC should fire these writers except for sekou and obrien.
  20. Of course i realize that. Did you not comprehend what I was saying? There is no chance an SEC team can beat Ohio State this year. Period. It pains me to say that but I am a realist. I would much rather have two non SEC teams duke it out than to have one of our SEC teams go to Glendale and lose to a team from an inferior conference. Ohio State is the best team in the country this year, so your right, they can talk all they want about how good THEY are. What I dont want to hear is that their CONFERENCE is better than ours. Because it isnt. Do you really think Michigan could play an SEC schedule and only lose one game? Because if you do you'll get no more replies from me because your irrational.
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