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I have received ZERO emails from the Atlanta Spirit about this... This was something that was really fun to go to and special as a Hawks fan. Bring it back!

Yes, the Hawks picked Salim before Monta Ellis... but the Warriors overpaid for a good (not elite) player who DOES NOT follow the rules....especially RIGHT AFTER he has signed his contract? Come on, Monta... Be a LITTLE bit smarter than that... I'm excited to follow this young group of guys who are (like others have said) doing the correct things on and off the court.

ACUTALLY, "Run-on sentence hell!" is a fragment... Did you not get out the THIRD grade?

You guys do know that Phelps swims THOUSANDS of miles...right? He also eats over 12,000 calories PER DAY... combine that with a tiring sport of swimming constantly, and you've got a jacked individual. No steroids there, folks. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7562840.stm

Thanks, I appreciate it... I don't know why it would not work for me, but that link did...thanks again!

Hey all, sorry if this is redundant.. I've been looking for an answer and I can't seem to get the RMR games on the stream...does anyone have a working link? I really appreciate it, take care.

Quote: Yah but you kissed marvin while sitting on chillz nuts so.....i dunno what to say lol Are we going to sign eachother's yearbook after this high-school fight?

I will be there! Section 303 Row 2 screaming my heart out!

**Hotlanta**, please don't ever post on these boards again. You're a cancer to the boards. You post absolutely NOTHING of value, and I want to vomit everytime I read your trash posts because I realize that I've wasted my time. All you do is complain, [censored], and moan. Who the hell made you the basketball god where you could call out Joe Johnson? You're probably 150 pounds overweight and never have played a sport in your life. Absolutely pathetic.

Quote: He disappears when we need him, h's very unclutch, he can't guard superstar players, he's gets lockdown against double-teams. I think he would excel if he was the 3nd or 3rd option. I don't think we have to go get a superstar, I think Smoove, Marvin, or Horford need to take that next step to their game. Take a second to check your posts, man. Your chubby fingers are hitting the wrong keys.

Quote: Lose games we supposed to win. I just want to ask... What teams are the Hawks supposed to beat? I'd love to see a time where you posted anything relatively positive about the Hawks. Why do you come here and post anyway? Do you know that you and about 4 others on here make people visit this forum LESS? All you guys do is complain. WAAAAAAAH

Yep, my seats DOUBLED. I am seriously thinking twice about renewing my tickets.

Quote: You're 100% right. Now the Hawks are stuck with a roster full of role players and NO has a MVP type PG. www.hornets.com Go there. Stay.

Quote: Quote: Quote: Sothron with his insider info on the Bibby trade!!! Maybe he knew we were going to do that, maybe he didn't. If he did, that means that he refused to post about Bibby deliberately, purposefully. Which means he's refusing to talk about our big man acquisition also deliberately, purposefully. You are one cold SOB!!! LOL Oh, I'm not so bad... once you get to know me.. It's not that hard to be a keyboard jockey is it? Internet "bully"!! Get a life.

It's always REAL easy to point fingers at other people and make fun of them....REAL easy.

Quote: Oh, and he actually plays abit of defense. Something JJ has never heard of. Where do you come up with these asinine ideas?

Quote: There is no doubt that what happened last night is not going to happen often. Even for the Hawks they don't get blown out like this as often as they used to to. However, it continues to remind me of why I have no faith in these players. Every time I start putting some faith into them, they send me crashing back down to earth. Joe's play gets worse and worse. He embarrassed himself every night and proved why he is not a top SG. He is getting to the point to where he is WORSE than Allan Houston. I don't know who JJ thinks he is trying to play like Allen Iverson over dribbling with the ball and slowing down ball movement and jacking up shot after shot. If last night doesn't humble him on what kind of player he really is (a 2nd or 3rd tier SG) then nothing will. Kobe showed him what a real SG is. Now, Kobe has his bad games. Most of the time Kobe simply has bad games. However, he has the skills to hold the ball and break down defenders or shoot the jumpshot and JJ doesn't have the ability to do that because he struggles to get my his man. JJ should be humbled after last nights game. He was put in his place. No, YOU should be put in your place. Your past two posts on this thread were MISERABLE. You are atleast a 3rd or 4th tier poster. Kobe Bryant is the best SG in the league...nobody is on his "tier".. Get over it. Stop comparing Joe Johnson to one of the best of ALL TIME...Dolt. Move on!

I don't know which is more shocking -- that the Hawks made a trade, or that they made a trade that involves them taking on money. For the past couple of years, the word around the league is (a) Billy Knight is one of the hardest general managers in the NBA to make a deal with and (b) Atlanta's fractured ownership group had been putting the kibosh on any trades that involved the Hawks taking on serious money. However, one of the Hawks' co-owners has insisted to me for months that the team would be willing to spend but just hadn't comes across the right deal -- and Saturday's deal lends credence to his claim. The Hawks reached an agreement to trade Anthony Johnson, Tyronn Lue, Lorenzen Wright and Shelden Williams to Sacramento for guard Mike Bibby, adding more than $11 million in salary obligations for next season but improving the Hawks' flagging playoff hopes immeasurably. Presuming the team re-signs Josh Smith, the Hawks will be well over the salary cap next year; if they re-sign Josh Childress too, they'll actually be closer to the luxury tax than the cap line. That's a far cry from where they've been in recent seasons -- Atlanta has been under the cap, often way under, ever since Knight blew up the team by trading Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Theo Ratliff, and Jason Terry in 2004. As far as wins and losses go, this trade should also have a huge impact. Atlanta's two biggest weaknesses this year have been 3-point shooting and point guard play; at a stroke, Bibby solves both problems. The Hawks are second-to-last in the NBA in 3-point shooting at 32.4 percent, and dead last in 3-point attempts per field-goal attempt, with only 14.3 percent of their shots have been triples. As a result, they've struggled mightily against zone defenses in recent games, a big reason the team is just 7-15 since Jan. 1. But Bibby should fix that immediately, as he's a 37.1 percent career 3-point shooter. He'll provide quantity as well as quality -- last season he took nearly six 3-point attempts per game, though he's down to about four per game this season. The Hawks as a team average just over 11 this year, so Bibby should create help them increase in 3-point tries. And with the threat of his quick release from the outside, it should open up the interior for the likes of Smith and Al Horford. Similarly, Atlanta's play from the point left a lot to be desired. Johnson (12.1 PER) and Lue (13.1 PER) were decent backups forced into more prominent roles; even with his numbers down in his 15 games since returning from a thumb injury, Bibby (14.0) has outplayed the two. Presumably, Bibby's subpar PER is an effect of his injury and a small sample size, and he'll return to the 16-17 range, where he's been the past two seasons. Using that PER comparison, you can see his importance in terms of the playoff race. A basic rule of thumb is that every additional point of PER over 2,000 minutes is worth one additional win. If Bibby returns to his usual norms in the 16-17 range, replacing Johnson/Lue with 35 minutes a game of Bibby would be worth about six wins over an 82-game season; over the final 32 games, it would be more like two wins, but that could be huge given the tight race for the final playoff spots in the East. Finally, the hope is that Bibby's addition will have one more positive effect: easing some of the ballhandling strain from workhorse guard Joe Johnson, whose numbers have declined every month this year as a result of overuse. To an extent, this deal is an admission of defeat on two other controversial Knight moves. Last year at the trade deadline, the Hawks acquired Johnson from Dallas for a second-round pick in a puzzling maneuver -- Atlanta was barely on the fringes of the playoff race, and Dallas would have gladly paid somebody to take Johnson's contract off their hands. Though he gave the Hawks decent minutes as a stopgap solution at the point, the position lingered as a weakness all year, and the Hawks lost a potentially valuable draft pick. The second admission of defeat is getting rid of Williams, who struggled in a season and a half since being taken with the fifth overall pick in the 2006 draft in what was widely seen as a mistake at the time. Williams went one spot ahead of 2006-07 Rookie of the Year and current All-Star Brandon Roy. He has one year left on his deal after this one and should see some minutes in a thin Sacramento frontcourt. Meanwhile, the trade also is a bit of a downer for Sacramento. They were hoping to get a quality young player for Bibby, or at least stick somebody with Kenny Thomas' contract. Instead they had to settle for three expiring contracts and a failed first-rounder. But more than anything, it's a sign the Hawks are finally serious about winning. A lineup of Bibby, Johnson, Smith, Marvin Williams and Al Horford, plus sixth man Childress, sure looks like a playoff team on paper. While depth is a concern, one has to think the Hawks got a leg up on their weak competition for the East's final two playoff spots, especially since several of those teams have spent this week looking at deals with an eye toward rebuilding. And now, the pressure will be on Atlanta coach Mike Woodson to deliver. The Hawks have struggled for close to two months and have an extremely difficult slate in the first three weeks after the break, including road games against the Jazz, Lakers, Spurs, Warriors, Celtics, Magic and Hornets. The Hawks don't have a first-round draft pick and won't have any cap space, so if Bibby's acquisition can't turn them around, changing coaches might be the only card left to play. In the meantime, it's a been a long time since we've heard these words, but ... yes, kudos are due to Knight and the Hawks. They've acted decisively to address the team's two biggest weaknesses and -- surprise, surprise -- opened up the checkbook to do it. As a result, the league's longest playoff drought seems likely to come to an end.

North Cyde, what did the TNT guys say in particular about the trade? I really wanted to catch their responses, but didn't know the show came on this early. Last night it was 9:00!! ahh!

Quote: The guy needs to do alot more then this trade to get approval. This could have been Brandon Roy right now and we would have dealt our expiring contracts for a true center. Woulda, coulda shoulda.... Which center?

Quote: Quote: I would not be surprised to see the Kings keep lue for the rest of the season.. He is a fairly decent scorer. In which case AJ might be back... Good point.. I would MUCH rather have AJ back than Lue... He's more of a pass-first guy..and I really think he led the team well. He will be missed.

I would not be surprised to see the Kings keep lue for the rest of the season.. He is a fairly decent scorer.

This is pretty much official...It was REALLY neat to see it on the bottom ticker of ABC during the college game that is on right now... That's awesome to see! I am proud to be a season ticket holder right now! I want to see the playoffs back in Atlanta!

Quote: Yeah, we got a little smaller. But Bibby is a upgrade defensively over AJ and Lue. So that helps in one respect. But Shelden/BLO minutes hopefully goes to Solo now. Much better all around team now. You hit the nail on the head. Solomon is now being given a GOLDEN opportunity to shine with the minutes hopefully going to him. Let's see what he can do with atleast 15 minutes a game now!

Quote: Quote: When was the last time Walter supported anything the Hawks did? Seriously, when was it Walter because I sure don't remember. Funny. You mean anything BK did, right? The the gutting of the team, drafting of Josh Smith, the signing of ZaZa, I acknowledged we HAD to do the deal for JJ once all the mess happened, the signing of Speedy, though marginally (gulp). But of course, BK has such a track record worth supporting. You got me. I don't support BK often. That would make me right, often. Thank you for pointing that out. W There IS a reason though that you are sitting and posting on a message board and not making decisions for an NBA franchise!