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Folks really mad because we didn’t give Murray away for a BS return.
Or maybe they are mad because nobody wanted to take our junk pieces off of our hands.
There is no need to define your Hawks fanhood based on this trade deadline.
Again, it is not the FO’s fault that WE work ourselves up in to a frenzy over trade rumors when they are not the ones pushing these narratives to us.
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I’m sorry everyone was let down.
But remember, Sometimes when you win, you really lose. And sometimes when you lose, you really win. And sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose.
That’s us. That’s the Hawks lol
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Um, we are still talking about Nola when the outside world is claiming that we have already moved on from them.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/02/hawks-pelicans-end-dejounte-murray-trade-talks.html
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8 minutes ago, kg01 said:
But can we atleast agree ant Williams is basically tall-Bazemore?
And fatter
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39 minutes ago, AHF said:
While I think he is an excellent player, just pointing out that after Embiid went down and teams shifted to put more pressure on Maxey he has really been struggling. His last 3 games he has averaged 20 points on 35.8% FG% and 30% 3pt% to go with 2.7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 2.7 turnovers. Hope the coaches recognize at some point that other players would struggle with the kind of attention that Trae gets night after night and stop rewarding guys who get free passes in terms of defensive schemes not focusing on them due to having superstar teammates ala Giannis, Embiid, etc. At least stop rewarding them over guys with better production who are also the focus of opposing defenses. Winning with better teammates should not obscure the obvious on who the games biggest stars are.
Coaches votes should have to match their gameplans. If you send doubles, box and-1’s, traps on PNR, etc…, against a player you cannot vote for a another guy who you defend straight up and cite winning as the excuse.
Clearly, Trae Young would bust that ass if you left a defender on him 1v1 all game long and it would probably result in more of those coveted wins. So pat yourself on the back, coaches, your gameplan was successful. Don’t double down and punish him for the team loss.
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Just now, kg01 said:
Oh, I finally get a chance to toss icy cold water on a thero post?!
Seriously though, explain why NOP would do that.
Not fighting, just wanna hear your rationale.
My thought is why would WE trade OO and DJ if it weren’t for a big fish?
Woj says CJ is off the table.
Who else does Nola have that would make our FO want to move off of DJ and OO? There is no collection of role players that is worth that haul.
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38 minutes ago, terrell said:
Murray is out tonight huh......
Where there’s smoke…
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Oh wow, yal are funny old farts lol
AJ McClean is the same AJ from Backstreet Boys
CJ Stroud is the likely NFL ROY, starting QB for Houston.
Lily Singh is a beautiful and hilarious actress/comedian/late night personality.
Parsons, NFL star.
Kai Cenat was just shouted out courtside at a Hawks game last week, social media influencer.
Tristan Jass is another influencer.
We know JHuD, Ron Artest.
The rest I definitely had to google but were loosely familiar.
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12 hours ago, Diesel said:
I think you're blind if you say that Capela is a defensive weakness. If used correctly, he's one of our defensive strengths. Here's the thing about defense... Defense is a team undertaking. You need a team to play good defense. 1 or 2 players is not going to do it. We don't have three people playing good defense. Sorry.. we don't. So we're not one player away or even two players away.
What we need to do is learn to embrace what we are until we can become more defensive. What we are is an offensive force. Everybody talks about how many points the Clipps scored on us. Did you notice, how many points we scored on them?
They are #9 in team defense. They get high steals, blocks, turnovers. They give up on the average 112 ppg. In a regulation game, we put up 144 points and we shot 53.7% from the field. We crushed this very good defense and we didn't have our best rebounder. If Clint had played and we had more possessions, we would have won. If JJ doesn't play like ass, we would have won. And they are the best team in the league right now.
We should take our cues from teams like the Lakers (showtime) and the Kings (webber years) and embrace being able to score and figure out how to get one or two timely stops. What will end up happening is we will try to trade to become this great defensive team and we will find ourselves in another 10 year rebuild because we don't know how to do that. We will always be looking for the right this or the right that. We can develop what we have... Trade if it makes sense.. but don't trade away valuable players becuase you think it will make us better defensively. No one player will.
Agreed! Not one player can make us a good defensive team. It’s a culture that has to be bought in to. Effort, communication, toughness, resilience, and CONFIDENCE
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Congrats to Trae. Proud of him for putting the fans first. He would be a 5 time All Star if he took the injury replacement invite before. But it’s all good man. Happy for him and Hawks nation.
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11 minutes ago, Vol4ever said:I just don't get those questioning this young man's faith. He believes the bible and that is old school according to today's current standards. So, he is being punished from a basketball standpoint since he doesn't go with the majority?
Seriously doubt that is what is happening. It’s more likely that his fire and brimstone posts are a symptom of a mental and emotional crisis due to the traumatic life events that have occurred recently and he has not been 100% locked in to his career as a ball player. Not that posting bible references is bad, it’s not. Nor is being a believer. It’s just a lack of discernment as a public figure that stands out as a potential red flag which matches up with the timeline of his lack of playing time.
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4 hours ago, kg01 said:
Yeah but there's no need to salary dump AJ, which is what this deal becomes basically. Poor asset mgt. Atleast give me another rookie, maybe one needing a change of scenery. Somethin'
I don’t know if anyone has noticed but, we aren’t getting anything out of the kid right now anyway. We have enough history of holding on to a player too long to where he has no value that I am willing to make that move on from him.
Holding and waiting hasn’t worked out well for us.
It isn’t a salary dump when we are getting a player that can actually help us on the court right now. It’s the offseason where we can decide if Okoro is worth resigning or letting him walk based on his play in the 2nd half of the season.
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5 minutes ago, kg01 said:
I question the okoro move since he's duento be paid. What's delon wright's contract status?
Both would be FA’s
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/delon-wright-17848/
Wright is an UFA, Okoro is a RFA.
If anything it helps clear some of the books if we don’t want to keep them around.
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Say what you want but if we could add a Delon Wright and Okoro to our rotation that would be a HUGE boost to our defensive upside.
I love Delon as a combo guard that fits next to any of our current guard rotation.
Okoro is an okay piece that I would rather see on the court instead of the Matthews.
You would essentially be swapping playing time from Mills/Forrest/Mathews/Matthews to Wright and Okoro.
Not sure the assets going out but I like the influx of PLAYABLE defenders that aren’t a complete joke on offense.
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The only reason anyone on this board ever got behind trading DJ was because we were told he had “real value and interest” from other teams and we thought that meant we were going to get a really good player in return. The moment we started getting lowball offers is when I stopped caring about trading him.
Fit doesn’t matter as we have no issue putting up points with him and Trae. We never have. That’s just a narrative to support another narrative.
Defensively, sure. We let DJ guard Steph, a smaller PG than him, and he still got cooked. So it’s not about the defensive mismatches. That another lazy take.
The truth is, when you lose as much as we were losing, everyone is quick to want to try something different. But the moment teams started driving down DJ’s trade value, that narrative shifted and our FO seemingly has wisened up to look elsewhere for roster moves.
The character stuff is nothing but noise.
We are better off keeping DJ. I don’t see many ways to improve this roster via trade at the deadline. It is what it is.
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He was/is so young. People take time to develop in to themselves.
Im not surprised by his maturing but very pleased nonetheless. He isn’t chirping on the court as much either. I think he is actually locked in and I love it. Just hoop. And if it was me personally I would not be fake friendly to any of the coaches/players that sold him out. No words needed.
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People been talking about DJ’s character since he was drafted. He has always had BS concerns about his upbringing. The same way they wanted give red flags to Ant Man. It just comes with territory when you are a confident young player who isn’t afraid to speak up for yourself.
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If Quin truly said no to trading DJ, I am good with knowing that.
Reaves aint it at all.
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We could use shooting and length.
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10 minutes ago, macdaddy said:
Games with JJ and Hunter we are a decent team. As good as last year and maybe better once everyone has figured out their roles. But this says a lot about our depth as a team. Your 3rd or 4th best player should be replaceable without going into a full slide.
At full strength I think we are the same .500-ish squad we have been since 21-22 season. I think we are lacking something to make us consistent winners. I don't know how much time Quin needs to get things right, but I'm not encouraged considering the lack of lineup creativity in lieu of trades.
I will say, if the lightbulb ever goes off, we have everything we need outside of frontcourt dominance and team defense.
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Hawks are a tale of multiple teams this year.
8-7 in their first 15, then we lose JJ
4-12 in the next 16, includes 4-10 stretch w/o JJ and 5 games missed by Hunter in that span (1-4)
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8-8 in our last 16 games
I hate the injury excuse because DJ and Trae should be good enough to raise our floor, but you can't deny the results.
Using Brad Rowlands lingo, we are due for some positive regression coming up. This team, flawed or not, is a lot closer to a mid, .500 type of squad than they are a lottery team. With no changes, it may take all season to climb out of the cellar, but it's good to see that we have at least stayed competitive since JJ returned, and having Hunter back, hopefully we pick up more momentum going forward
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1 hour ago, benhillboy said:
Never heard the phrase “hot phone date” in my life. First time for everything
Flashback to the phone chat days listening for the sluttiest messages. You know what I’m talking about @kg01
1 hour ago, Sothron said:okay I'm old sure but what is a hot phone date? I remember the old party line 1-800-SLUT or whatever
Yall are funny and I deserve it lol
Nah, it’s a weeknight, adults have busy schedules. Sometimes you just have to stay home and catch up over the phone when you can’t get together in person lol
My chat game is legit, laying the groundwork for in person over the weekend. If you must know!
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Great win, I had a hot phone date but kept the game on in the background.
We have a lot of areas of improvement, even in a win. Lakers are just as dysfunctional as is but a win is a win, and beating Lebron is never easy.
Happy to see Kobe and AJ out there. One would believe that they would get more minutes with how much we struggle this season. But hopefully they are promoted next season to the rotation.
Go Hawks!
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That’s old and that was after the JC trade I believe where everyone was questioning if we were ducking the tax. So he was answering a direct question. I remember hearing this on 92.9