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oh that last shot was a bad shot but he basically kept us in it up to that point . I felt that since because he had a bigger player in Qrich on him he shouldve drove it to the basket because that jumper let Qrich off the hook.As soon as jamal wouldve turned the corner Qrich wouldve fouled him . .

25 and 6 on 55% shooting ....yeah he is killing us ......

Id rather that we try not to put the refs in a situation where they have to choose between the defensive player of the year or giving Joe or jamal a foul call . I have way more confidence in jamals ability to make tough shots then I do for us to get a foul call against Howard and co in that situation

again you dont get it if someone doesnt play any defense it doesnt matter who is guarding them they can score . ....JJ Redick cant shoot ? roflmao

I said jamals although I thought Joes had more flair . The reason I said jamals is because while Joes shot had more flair it was more of a indicator that we arent gonna lay down whereas jamals shot is a giant sign that says we are here to win .

jameer nelson ? What !! Game one Jameer Gm 1 - 27 pts 1 assist 6 rebs 55% shooting Gm 2 13 pts 2 assists 8 rebs 26% shooting Gm 3 13 pts 10 assists 5 rebs 29 % shooting 38 minutes per game 17 ppg 4 apg 6 rpg on 38% shooting is somehow considered as having his way ? Joe wasnt on jameer the entire 4th he was on him a couple of possessions as was jamal then Kirk came back in with 9 minutes left in the 4th and even the announcers talked about how the Kirk jamal backourt really got back control of the game. We havent had to hide jamal this series as hes been the second best player in the series . If what you are saying is true then Reddick shouldve gotten 30 or Qrich or whoever jamal was guarding . If he doesnt play any defense then anyone he is on should be scoring and if jamal is not playing any defenses and none of these guys can crack 40% from the field then what kinda defense are they considered to be playing when hes averaging 23 ppg in 31 minutes off the bench on 44% shooting from the floor and 59% from three ?

actually as I said he found a smaller defender on him so he knew he could get his shot over him whenever he wanted . He sized him up got to what he called his sweet spot and rose and shot I think the replay clearly shows that it wasnt a desperation type of throw it was a shot . The play was a pick and roll with jamal and joe if jameer switches then the ball goes to Joe with jameer on him and he takes him in the post. Weve ran that play quite a few times including a couple of times earlier that game Anyone whose played basketball and can shoot the rock knows that the corners and that spot where jamal shot from are the easies shots in the game for a shooter. You put someone 6+ inches shorter on him and he would make very high percentage of that same shot . As i said when you take into account this guy is one of the best three point shooters in league history . The best at making them while getting fouled and he even has 10+ game winners so hes done it under pressure before .

oh please Im so tired of this stuff . The haters make these blanket statements and then never can give credit where credit is due . jamal has a couple of steals and a couple of blocks . According to some of you Jameer was gonna take him every time he guarded him Jrich was gonna post him up everytime he guarded him He couldnt follow Reddick around those screens so he couldnt None of it has happened with any type of frequency if jamal has been just dreadful why cant they take advantage of him ? Hes playing 31 minutes per game and no one has been able to exploit his dreadful defense yet ? Could it be that the entire defensive issue is just a wee bit exaggerated and that most teams will not abandon there entire philosophy in order to get a couple of baskets on jamals supposedly weak defense ? If jamal is this supposed fountain of easy baskets they sure as heck arent drinking from him that often . whereas he sure as heck has jumped into the fountain against the Magics guards

actually it was a pick and roll between him and Joe and they didnt switch and then our 6'5 guard shot over there 5'9 guard . Only people who say it was a bad shot are people who cant play . The fact of the matter is I would rather have not put it in the hands of the refs its a surefire way to get screwed in todays nba unless you are a superstar.

because joe doesnt make quick decisive moves he would be extremely easy to turn away from the basket and stretch out the play

Also lets not forget that Josh threw the ball out of bounds 2-3 times uncontested lol know your role know your role know your role as Ive said before that Josh wants to be scottie pippen when we need him to be Dennis rodman He will be 30 years old and losing all his athleticism before he tries to change ala Vince carter

As my dad told me last night . People like to think the grass is greener on the other side . JJ Reddick is a good bench scorer Jamal is a starter that happens to come off our bench as for the 3rd quarter you do know that Jamal came into the game at a little over the 4 minute mark . We had only scored 4 pts since halftime :scratchhead: Jamal in the last 4 minutes had 6 points by himself . We may not want him but I guarantee you the other contenders would love to get him . lol I couldnt resist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSye6JIZmQ

My dad was too lol . But like I told him when you have someone thats top 40 in the history of the nba in made three point shots and also the all time leader in 4pt plays . Its hard to doubt him and that jumpshot when he can size someone up. The more difficult the shot looks the more likely it will go in especially for jamal. If I was a Magic fan Id be getting oxygen in back of an ambulance right now .

Everyone knows I love JC1 to death but that was some BS .........roflmao but Ill take it

I noticed LD maneuvered his sub pattern to get josh out of the game lol and to get the lineup of Kirk,jamal,JJ,Horf and Zaza onto the court

Jamal is a playmaker hes had just as many big assists as hes had big shots for us . Playmaking is not just about being a pure passer its about being able to create shots for yourself and others You are limiting his touches when you are putting the ball in the hands of guards who dont create a bunch of shots for other players themselves and we dont call a bunch of plays for him . I fully understand the benefit of playing a scorer like jamal of the ball on some other team but on this team what evidence do you have that it will work or has worked ? You cant explain why it means iso because it really doesnt you like quite a few others see him dribble up and assume him dribbling the ball up the court means that its an isolation play . But when he comes into the game he doesnt shoot the ball as much as he can and we dont even try and get him the ball most of the time . Last year with Woody we did what you are talking about but this year it hasnt been much of that at ll its based on reputation really . LDs motion offense ? but I thought we were running iso's ? But if his offense doesnt call for a playmaker then what is the issue with jamal bringing the ball up and passing it off ? You seem to be just making excuses for this stuff because you wanna see Teague play . You wanna see Teague defense in the game ? WHAT !!!!!!! You cant sit there and make that claim no one can make a claim saying that they know what Teague will do when he gets into the game because hes done nothing consistently since hes been in the pros . Ive said since before the series that Teague will probably get minutes at home but its his chance to show he can contribute anyone claiming that they know what he will do tomorrow is basically lying to themselves as he could just as easy come in and have 2 turnovers and stupid fouls as he could have a great block and a steal .

again you havent answered what does moving jamal to sg do for his scoring and our overall team scoring which is nothing . Again thats why jamal even when Kirk is in brings the ball up first hes our best ballhandler and he doesnt get pressured neither Kirk nor Teague are shot creators they dont create a bunch of shots for others How many plays did you see us run for jamal even when kirk was in at sg ? We dont do a bunch of isolations plays because jamal is in . Once you figure in the end of the quarter plays and the fact that jamal is taking 6 threes a game what isolations plays are you talking about ? What do you guys think a pg for this team does ? Our pg duties involve calling the play passing it either to Joe on the wing or in the post or giving it to the big and cutting through and then they make the decision . Those things do not change no matter who is the pg . I find it hard to be behind any offense that does not get the ball into the hands of your playmakers as much as possible . Saying you want him off the ball is basically saying you want to cut his offensive touches which makes no sense.

why would we want to take the ball out of Crawfords hands at this point ? Where does this fantasy that Teague somehow creates offense for anyone besides himself come from ? Crawfords been on fire and yet how many plays have you seen us run for him off the ball ? If we wont run them for him as hot as hes been the last two games when hes in with the starters why would we then expect us to run them when teague comes in ? Teague should get some minutes tonight but please can we stop with the drug induced ideas of him coming in as a pg who is gonna distribute the ball ? When he comes in he should come in as a Nate Robinson type smaller guard looking for his shot .

I dont know about this Supporter Jamal just isnt playing well for the playoffs hes been playing well for the entire month of April . Considering hes not really going against good perimeter defenders I expect him to be locked in for the rest of this series. The probem I saw in game two was that Joe didnt adjust to the situation and use his help When Craw has it going like that I feel that Joe shouldnt need to work as had as he was trying to fight that double all the time he should be playing off of Craw by becoming the spot up shooter in the corner .

JJ and Craw both have range out to that far . Crawford is the league all time leader in 4 pt plays and both JJ and Jamal are top 40 in nba 3pt fg made all time.... ALL TIME . When these guys hit threes they are not luck

Marvin missed at least 3 layups by my count and I dont expect him to be superman but he is getting great looks he should be feasting as wideopen as he has been .

Everytime someone tells me we should play Teague on the road it just screams I wanna tank the entire series He will get his shot at home so we see if he even wants to play on Friday

sorry nope we didnt even start rebounding until the 4th quarter . It had nothing to do with Josh having 1 board at halftime . You cant talk about not getting fouls calls with that type of rebounding disparity . In the NBA if you are not going in the paint you are not gonna get a ton of calls . The only player on the Hawks in the paint was the guy guarding Dwight ........ I just watched the game again and I have never seen anything like that having a 3rd guy guard Dwight and not double him should free up Josh and Al to rebound more not less .

If we rebounded the ball better the refs and Dwights ft attempts wouldnt mean anything . Its hard to complain about foul calls when we didnt even try and rebound

We have to rebound the ball ....... that is all