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At this point nothing would be shocking except Ben Simmons or KD getting traded to the Hawks. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these players traded to us before or during the draft: KAT Rudy Gobert Jerami Grant Harrison Barnes DeAngelo Russell Donovan Mitchell After the draft SNT: Ayton Lavine

I mean they either re-sign Ayton and don't blow it up or they blow it up.

The craftiness and determination to get Ayton is peak front office. That is why I’ll be interested to see if this FO which I consider strong, will pursue and actually close that deal.

I think he won’t hesitate to send 2 year players out the door if they aren’t developing. I’m sure he would have shipped Marvin out when value is high. We could’ve saved all those years of anguish.

Can’t have a meltdown when the trade happens when we’ve already melted down over every hypothetical trade already https://tenor.com/VfW3.gif

No, when we get to the point of using Glen Willis as a reference then we’ve reached rock bottom

Lemme put this rumor thread back on track… I mean… KAT and Trae been linked before. They seemed friendly at least at the AS game and the Wolves probably looking to slow down salaries since they cheap AF.

Does Minnesota trade KAT? The fan base soured on him after they got booted.

Mods please change the title of this thread to “JC Value / Is OO a PF” and make a new rumor thread. Thanks!

OO would only be valuable staying at the 5 if he was either larger physically or can stretch the floor which neither applies.

OO has the Al Horford skill set, not the Dwight Howard skill set. Let’s not rehash the Al Horford stretch 5/ or is he a 4 argument. I’d like to see OO develop a jumpshot and stay slim for a 4 spot long term. He could get bullied to death against Gobert or Embiid in the East.

Many twitter stans of JC will need to prepare themselves in their safe zone in case things go sideways for them.

Draft night going to be interesting if Schlenk has a framework in place for #4 and Ivey is there. I'm sure it is based on maybe Collins + 16 + the CHA 2023 first (overpay with that because I'd rather us send a pair of 2nds). I'm sure they will have to wait until July 1st for a DA trade if that is the route they want. For Gobert, he brings the defensive upgrade we need but I'm sure it comes down to Ainge deciding if the Chicago deal is the best they can get or if the Hawks deal is it. I have no doubt the Hawks have discussed these scenarios with these teams and set their offer/frameworks.. it's just a matter of if Ivey is there at 4 and if Ainge can't get Chicago to add more.

I would LOVE to get Ivey. Seems like a real challenge to get there though. dude will be a star.

And now is about the time when every upgrade out there starts fizzling away from the Hawks grasp. It may be true that there aren’t many upgrades from JC but we really need to address our backcourt issues. Capelas health moving forward drives my quest to see them upgrade center to either a KAT/Ayton or Gobert. Lest I remind everyone lurking this board about our abysmal defense.

Nice rumor... I see the account Landon Buford and all I can think is fan account

It’s a cloud of haze and I think Minny and Sacramento must be 3rd teams somehow or somebody someway is just throwing stuff against the wall from their side (Minn, Sac).

Gobert (final decision... I think... )

A top tier defender like Draymond (that can also stay healthy) paired with Trae (who stays relatively healthy) can go a long way towards a championship. Gobert seems to be the best option available to be our Draymond so here's to hoping Ainge is slipping in his old age.

You don't understand BYC and the premise behind it. The third team takes the difference in player comp due to BYC. That is the whole reasoning behind it to prevent teams from loop-holing the cap. Since Phoenix sends only $19m out they can only take $19m back but we are taking in 31m so we have to send out 31m. The 3rd team takes the $12m. We are not increasing our salaries! We send out 31m in salaries and take-in 31m in salaries, waive and stretch Gallo, we will be NO-where near the tax apron (6 million OVER the tax line). You REALLY think Ressler is paying tax on 6m in salaries without consolidating our existing roster? Just because the apron is a thing doesn't mean the Hawks have ever even approached it. Besides hard capping in 2 years with Ayton, Trae and maybe SGA or Donovan is better than playing the I don't want to pay tax line we've been doing. Don't be afraid to tiptoe the hard cap or tax or else you may as well be OKC eternally selling players for future picks.

Let me make it simple.. it must be a 3 or 4 team trade or two separate but immediate trades: Suns: Ayton $15.7 out, Capela $19m in (not sure if they need to ship out 3-4m in salary to 3rd or 4th team - Haven’t looked at that aspect yet) Atlanta: Capela $19m out, $12m+ to 3rd team (OR 1-2 players to the 3rd or 4th team.. the teams absorbing salary to facilitate). 3rd Team: $12m player in, TPE with Draft picks to Hawks They can add a 4th team to take additional Suns salary going out (Saric, Shamet) in exchange for picks + TPE.

Once again you have to ship out an additional $12m on the Ayton deal

Yes thank you again for that but the Hawks have to ship out the new salary amount! A third team gets one of our 12m+ salary guys for TPE or a pick!

Why does everyone always think that we can ship out just Capela for an Ayton SNT? Go read up on the cap rules.