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As I've said numerous times, the trade value of Horford is utterly ridiculous to some people on this board. As a soon to be free agent, looking for a max deal, with declining numbers, he isn't going to pull in the haul that most people think he will.

He's not an All-Star anymore. And since when is Hood on a bottom team? Teague has one year left on his contract so I'd hardly call that "great". It is for decent money, don't get me wrong, but hardly great since it will rise quite a bit next summer.

It is one of the better trades I've seen thus far. I saw one that included Hawyard over Hood and a few other pieces mixed in. I just don't think that Hayward is going to be moved. The Jazz love him and he's perfect for what they do. They'll have to give up one of their young wings to find a PG though. Hood would be the best option to me since Alec Burks is getting paid too much and Hayward is their "guy". The addition of Booker is what I really like as depth in the frontcourt.

Hawks Hoop had a piece a month or so ago about what Orlando might want in a deal if the Hawks decided to tear it all up. http://hawkshoop.com/what-a-tear-down-and-rebuild-might-look-like/ I believe it was Millsap for Tobias Harris and Oladipo, not sure if a pick was included or not.

Teague/THJ/Moose to the Jazz for Hood/Burke/Booker http://soaringdownsouth.com/2016/01/29/atlanta-hawks-trade-target-4-hood-burke-booker/ What does Hawk Nation say about this idea?

Milwaukee would laugh us back to Atlanta. In no way are they trading Giannis and especially not for Teague. And then adding in Henson would mean the Hawks absolutely raped them in the deal.

There is no one on the Pistons' roster (available in a trade) that I would want. They aren't getting rid of Drummond, Jackson, KCP or S. Johnson so who would make us better? No one. For all the complaining on these boards about moving Al Horford, Detroit is one of the few teams where a deal makes zero sense in what they'd be willing to give up.

Since I have a friend who works for Soaring, what stupid posts are the "norm". Love to see them. I read them regularly along with Peachtree and I don't see any of what you are referring to. Very doubtful you've read more than one or two pieces based on your assumption. And if you are referring to these trade scenarios then you need to try and read a full post before you make comments. They are all hypothetical based on players who are "rumored" to be on the block. Simply hypothetical's for conversation purposes.

Successful? No. Failure? No. I'd give it a "meh". Pretty much what the entire season has been like. Or the last 10 years...

Please go back and read my post again before freaking out. I only proposed the deal since he started this whole thing with a Nuggets trade offer. I even said "I'm not suggesting we make this deal" and that it wouldn't make us better this season. Reading comprehension... And I still maintain that you overvalue what Al Horford would/should fetch in a trade. Other teams know that he's going to command a massive salary this summer and that he's merely a rental or a guy you have to pay $25M to moving forward so he's not going to bring back a super star. So the same issue remains, we either let him walk for nothing or pay him the ridiculous amount of money he'll want and then be in the same boat next year.

Forgot to add in that I believe Kyle could be flipped again to a contender at the deadline. Cleveland or OKC probably, so the Nuggets would pick up more assets. Teague could be used as trade bait as well for a team like the Knicks. Basically, Nuggets get a ton of cap space, a few picks and a roster that allows their young players to develop.

I'd love to have Faried on this roster with what he brings to the table and his contract over the next 3+ years, but I'm not giving all of that up for him. And that's essentially what you are doing because Hickson isn't in the long term plans and Nelson is no better than Mack at this point in his career. I'd much rather see something like this if we made a deal with Denver. I'd send our first rounder next year their way as well. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hjc2joo We wouldn't be better this season, but with Chandler next year along with Faried off the bench then I'd be on board. And we'd still have some cap space if we declined Mack's option. Now that is completely a hypothetical and I only proposed it since you offered up a Nuggets trade. I'm not really suggesting we try and make that deal as I think there are too many moving parts with it and I don't know how I'd feel about starting Splitter next year.

I wasn't a member back then, but if people were seriously upset at letting Smooth walk then they obviously were speaking through their hearts and not their basketball minds since Josh was an Atlanta native and was a fan favorite for a few years. I was a huge fan of Millsap. Didn't like the DMC signing too much so I was clearly wrong about that one. The truth of the matter is, there is no trade outside of us bringing in a super star, already signed to a long-term deal, that is team friendly, for our role players and zero draft picks involved that will make some on these boards happy.

The Hawks' chances of getting back to the ECF hinge on two things. 1. Jeff Teague getting healthy 2. Some sort of move at the deadline to improve the roster, whether that be a big splash or just a depth guy I don't like the long-term outlook for this team as it is currently constructed due to the core being 30+ aside from Bazemore. But all of that could change in a split second at the deadline or even in free agency this summer. I get mad at times with this team, but I've never given up hope and I'll continue to watch night in and night out.

If Baze commands a salary around $12M and then we resign Al to the max then this team is doomed to another 3-4 years of mediocrity. And that's not to say that I don't want to keep Baze, but we wouldn't be able to improve this team next season if that was the case, unless of course we made a trade of some kind. The year after we would have some money to spend with Teague, Splitter, Thabo, Scott (TO) and Mack (TO) off the books but then it would be time to g-up Dennis. Thus why I keep advocating trading Horford now and moving in a different direction.

It is that type of mentality that is going to put us right back to where we were with the Joe Johnson contract. How can trading Horford be laughable? He's not the player he used to be and he's going to command a max contract. Why wouldn't the team at least be kicking the tires to see what they could get for him. Clearly we aren't winning titles with him. But as I said on another topic, go ahead, sign him to that max deal. But when we are talking about the same problems next season, only with $25M less in cap space for the next five years, it will only be the organization's fault.

I'd just like to know what rebounding center that Korver would fetch. Would have to be an All-Star if all we get back for Al/Jeff is Hood. And the salaries don't even come close to working on that Hood deal. We'd have to get half their team to match salaries.

The overestimation of what two months worth of Al Horford should fetch the Hawks is utterly ridiculous on these boards. Trust me, he's not going to fetch the type of talent everyone things he's worth. And he's certainly not worth the max deal he's going to get this summer. By all means, let's continue to do the same thing every single year and trot him out there at the five. Then let's all complain that he's not a five and complain about the team's lack of rebounding. Not to mention the unwillingness to part with THJ, a guy who just two weeks ago finally cracked the rotation and who still isn't playing that well.

And please stop it with the whole picks thing. One is a second rounder and of the two first rounders, one will likely be a second rounder since the T-Wolves won't make the playoffs last year. So the only pick of value is our first this year, currently at #24 (http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft). The Bud/Ferry track record with draft picks isn't very good so I'm not sold on his evaluation of talent in college. Not a single player that late in the draft would help us next season.

Makes more sense than the Bucks giving up their franchise player for scraps. Let's not begin to compare the two trades regardless of whether or not you like the one I posted on here. Yours makes zero sense whatsoever as the Bucks would NEVER do that. The one SDS threw out there is much better. Too many people on here overvalue what Horford brings to the table considering his numbers are down across the board and he's about to get PAID in free agency. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but we aren't winning anything with him currently, so locking him up to a max contract in the offseason absolutely WILL NOT help us. And the other alternative is he leaves and we are stuck with cap space that we can't use since free agents don't want to come here.

One of the most disappointing losses of the season. I just went to bed and didn't bother with the alcohol.

You have got to be kidding me. SMH I love trades where the Hawks get a guy like Giannis and give up our scraps. Why on Earth would the Bucks give up a player like Giannis in a league that is dominated by wings. He is their franchise moving forward, so just stop with that scenario.

I'll take Millsap simply on his defensive ability. They are both gifted offensive players. Would love for them to switch heights and let Millsap be 6'10 though.

Have any of you taken a gander at the Suns' roster and what they are going to put on the floor tonight? No Bledsoe, no Knight, no Morris, no Teletovic, no Tucker, no Price, no Luer... If the Hawks lose this game tonight it might drive me to drink. All I keep thinking about is that Miami Heat game a few years back when they sat Wade, James and Haslem I believe and we still lost because Bosh went nuts. I feel like all Atlanta sports teams have that issue, they play down in games we should win.

I agree that the Hawks' roster decisions have been suspect at best over the last few seasons. We don't have our first rounder from two years ago, we traded away our first rounder last year for a guy who is just now starting to crack the rotation (and I'm hoping he keeps playing well because I am a fan), we let DMC walk and really didn't add much to replace him other than acquiring Splitter, which was the type of move I would have loved at the deadline last year to improve that team. BUUUUUUUT...that was under old ownership and they just didn't have the desire to spend money like Dan Gilbert does. Making moves like the Cavs have done and are doing is all about how much your owner will let you spend. But it can be a double edged sword at times because the Cavs have very little flexibility moving forward with the roster they currently have. If they don't win a title this year then I'm not sure what they do to improve the team. The Nets were willing to spend big a few years ago and look how that turned out for them. What you need is a good mix of an owner who doesn't mind spending and a GM that knows what they are doing. I'm on board with Bud "The Coach" but I have questions about Bud "The GM".