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I'd just sign him in the off season. Did the Pistons pick up his option? If not, that would be a solid signing for back up center with some upside. Trae would make him better than what we've seen with other teams, but I'm not sure of the cost of $12 million this year. I'd like to keep Patty around for his leadership.
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2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
5 games into last season I was complaining.
I'm aware...lol.
It's not like Quin has eliminated the midrange either. They still seem to be shooting a ton relative to other teams, but the player and ball movement is night and day. It's probably because Quin let's anyone initiate the offense, but Nate's system always had the guards doing it.
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4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:That's why in games like last night, we can't have the end of game meltdown - that time should have been for the 3rd stringers.
Rewatching the highlights of the game, the spacing Dejounte and Trae have to work with is night and day between last year and this year. I now see why you guys disliked Nate's offensive scheme so much.
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1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:
The 8/9 man rotation is still learning Quin's offense and defense. When they've mastered it, our W/L record, we may see more players. It's a long season.
I was thinking about this last night. I agree 100%. Quin's playing the guys more early so they get comfortable in his system. Once they do and hopefully the wins are piling up, he'll expand his rotation to keep everyone fresh for the playoffs. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself with the playoff talk though.
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26 minutes ago, Sothron said:
Hawks lose first two games...17+ pages
Hawks win their third game in a row... 9 pages
Tell me we have "fans" without telling me we have "fans"...
Some of that has to do with the Bally app crashing the last two games for most of us.
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That fourth quarter defensive effort was horrendous. The win was never in doubt though.
Seems like the Hawks put in two dominate quarters and then coast. That's a big improvement from the past few seasons, but got to finish better. Quin is going to have a lot teach on in an otherwise blowout win.
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Way to put these guys away!
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5 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:
Hunter still can’t dribble against ball pressure I see.
Should have gave the ball up with the quickness..lol
They are still showing me something. Last year, against clearly inferior teams, they'd be close going into the fourth quarter and find a way to lose. I'm loving the offensive and defensive scheme Quin is installing.
Finish this fourth strong and get this dub.
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The one thing I honestly need Trae to improve on is to not relax when we get 20 point leads. Have that freaking killer instinct. If we're up 20, get it up to 30. Up 30 get it up to 40.
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The one thing I'm loving this early season is the Hawks are starting to string together quarters where they are beating their opponents by 10+ points. That is the key to winning a lot of regular season games and what good teams tend to do..
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As I posted that, they started playing like cheeks and not the ones on your face.
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Slow start, but the guys seem to be locking in.
Great pass there by Trae and DJ with three!
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PM me for alternative.
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Just watched the highlights because the stupid Ballysports app wasn't working until the game was over. What a comeback!!!! This team was down 20+ and just turned it on and beat the breaks off Minnie as Nique would say.
Murray was on fire from the highlights looks like Trae was moving the ball and everyone just played well on the second night of a back to back.
This team is looking different.
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This sucks. I'm about to find some other means to watch the game.
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A thread on the Hawks great defense defending Dame.
Great work from Dejaunte.
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1 hour ago, kg01 said:Bro, some folks literally watched one half and wrote off the whole season. Smh
1 hour ago, Phunkabilly said:For all you naysayers who were saying this team is crap and will be lucky to play .500 ball this year after only watching the first two games of the season, please take note... games like this against one of the top championship contenders (on the road, mind you) are what this team is capable of. We have the talent and coach to be right at the top with the rest of these contenders... these guys just need experience in Quin's system.
Ayy. I said .500 before the first game until they show me otherwise...lol
Great team win tonight though. JJ has been great and been a pleasant surprise! So glad to see him coming out effectively in the early season. Has to work on those free throws though. It looks like the Quinn has unlocked Hunter. If we can get this Hunter throughout the season the Hawks will be an upper echelon team.
I believe Murray and Trae will play much better.
There is a stark difference between Quinn and Nate and it's about the aggressiveness we've seen on the defensive end. I'm loving the ball pressure and Nate seemed like he didn't care about that.
Let's get this win tomorrow guys and start building on something for the season.
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9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Maybe, but I don't think between Dre, Bey and CC we'll get a ton of assists that'll open things up for others.
They should have more than tonight. The good passing lineup comes from the bench. The qualifier of saying were the assists will come from the starters to me is misleading.
Bogi, Jalen and OO are plus passers for their position so that's where the other assists will come from when the team is playing well.
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2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
@Sothron. You said the powers that be want the Hawks to lead the league in assists vs Trae leading the league - not a good start. Hornets with 34 assist, Hawks 24, Trae with 9, DJ with 6 - where are the rest going to come from in the starting lineup? They had 1 between Dre, Bey and CC.
That's misleading though. They missed a bunch of good looks.
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Well the past few seasons, the team came out like gang busters and had us all hyped to just finish around .500. Its early season and there's a ton of overreaction in here.
The Hawks struggle against the hornets for some odd reason. Trae never shoots well against them unless its a play-in.
Not even disappointed cause like I said. This team is a .500 team until they prove otherwise. Really hoping they prove otherwise.
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2 hours ago, NBASupes said:
1. 61-21, best in the NBA
2. Barring trade, CC and Bey
3. Team 3P% not sure, doesn’t matter honestly. It's all about the quality of threes that matter. A good quality look generally gives you a great chance at offensive rebounds which are where the damage is really done in the modern NBA. What you don't want is the Lakers or last year Hawks where everything is crowded and limited 2nd chance opportunities.
4. Team Defensive Rating - I expect them to be good at times and decent at others, 114 range.
5. Team leader in 3P% (Minimum 50 FGM) Bogi, Hunter, Okongwu, or Bey. They will get the most wide open looks. Not expecting JJ ability reasons or Murray/Trae difficult of threes to be the guys.
I just know you going to light them up during the regular season when the are 41-41 again.
My realistic prediction is 46 -36.
My floor for the team is 41-41
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2. Name the starting PF and C at season's end - JJ and Clint Capela3. Team 3P% (Last year 35.2%)- 36%4. Team Defensive Rating (Not looking for the actual number but where we rank among other teams. Last year we were #22, year before #26.)- 18th5. Team leader in 3P% (Minimum 50 FGM)- Bogi- 2
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2 minutes ago, kg01 said:
Folks wanna pay OG more than Hunters getting? For similar production and availability? Interesting ....
#kgvsspud2.0
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2 hours ago, JeffS17 said:The risk, in my opinion, isn't the potential declining value of Capela as much as it is OO is no longer on his rookie scale contract next year and we will have waayyy too much salary tied up at center. There's a heavy opportunity cost of having a bunch of salary tied up in two guys that cannot be on the court at the same time. It's not as big of an issue for other positions because most wings/guards can slot into at least 2 different positions, giving you lineup variety and shared minutes.
Waiting until the trade deadline means you have fewer suitors, and waiting until next offseason means you're losing a lot of leverage given teams will understand we have to trade Clint. Plus there's an argument to be made to having OO play with and develop chemistry with the starters if he is going to be here long term (I sure hope this is the case). I don't think any of us have the Hawks contending this year and it's largely a reset year, so it would make sense to do that.
All of that of course does not take into account the deals we may or may not have on the table for Capela, so to answer @JayBirdHawk's question, ideally, I would trade Capela (+ Hunter but thats another topic) into 1, maybe 2, high quality rotation pieces that fit better, assuming no superstar type players are available in a consolidation trade. A stretch 5 backup for OO that could share the court with him in some scenarios would be nice, a quality backup PG for Trae, a quality PF rotation player (that could likely share the court with JJ playing SF when needed), etc. I don't have a perfect answer to this question because we're in an awkward transitional state right now where a lot of guys are playing for minutes, but those are holes that we could fill that make the entire roster gel better.
Those of us in the keep Capela corner aren't against trading him.
We just aren't for trading him for the sake of trading him and not getting something in equal or greater value in return.
It's easy to say yes let's trade him, but what's the return on him?
Trade Capela for a 2nd round pick and have Bruno as your back up just because?
No, thanks to that.
Edit: Also not saying your point isn't valid. We will lose negotiating power the longer we wait. The salary cap rising may help us out a bit.
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33 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:
If we could afford to have ~$45-50M tied up in our rotation for every position, our payroll would be $250M a year. Clint has to go... love him, and will miss him, but if we're talking about the future, there's only one intuitive move here.
That's the thing, we won't have that tied up in every position and will be fine. There salary cap is going to go up a lot and having $50 million tied up in the center position won't cripple the Hawks. If Tony wants to win, he'll have to pay luxury tax at some point.
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I'm about to write these mfers and tell them I want every cent of my money back for the days I do not have service. This is completely unacceptable.
Edit: In my rage, I didn't spell it correctly. LMAO