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I love the switch also....thanks for the update...this is totally on point.....this is alot easier to navigate. Awesome job.

Quote: What was his major at Stanford? Business? Don't know for sure...but I remember during previous offseasons while JS was working out trying to improve some portion of his game....Chillz was focusing on life outside of basketball. I think the article stated he was attending some type of business seminar or internship or something to do with an MBA or networking. While I respect what he brought and contributed to the team I feel he was always thinking more towards setting himself up for life away from the NBA.

Quote: It's the offseason of 2009. Chillz was allowed to Walk. Hawks signed Luke Jackson to a 2 year deal and he has turned out to be a 8/3/2 players over 19 mpg. Marvin turns in a 16/6 season. Hawks didn't make the playoffs but JJ and Smoove played allstar level. Bibby was in rapid decline. Zaza was seldom seen. Brown didn't pan out. Morris was a little less than adequate. Horf improved to 15/9.7 player. Speedy was hurt midseason. Acie came along and was a 8/3/5 player in 26 mpg. what do you do when Marvin comes looking for his rfa extension? Bibby, solo, and Zaza comes off the books giving us 22 Million in cap space. What do you do. Do you resign Marvin to a big contract? If another team throws more than 8 Million at Marvin do you match? Do you regret not having Chillz? One option that is missing from this is......draft a possible replacement depending on whatever our team needs are. Also if Chillz is still in Greece.....and Marvin needs to go....it may be another time to bring over D. Anderson.....although if Sund was high on him he probably would be in play now as an option.....but I agree with Northcyde, I believe.....IF we aren't in the playoff.....JJ needs to be moved in order to free up $$$$ to further tweak the team.

Quote: Quote: then last year. This is getting interesting in the RFA market. At the same time Deng was off last season. 57 million over 5 years is a lot of money to turn down. Okafor wants more money too. I don't think he should be getting more then Chandler/Dalembert money though. Well, he missed a bunch of games, took a step backwards (likely due to injury) and his team missed the playoffs (and had to fire the coach). Kind of hard to turn around and ask for MORE money after that kind of season. Well I think these guys rolled the dice by turning down previous deals, probably with some advice from their agents, and now that they aren't getting offers to the degree they thought they would.....they are because the teams are offering them less. Its a gamble when teams sign players early....and its also a gamble when the players turn down millions holding out for more. The agents who suggested their players turn down the deal aren't looking good right now,,, but they aren't being held accountable or ridiculed the way Teams, Owners, GM's and even the players themselves are.

I enjoyed that the movies actually ha some unexpected twists in it. As with most good movies that you expect a sequel from I am kind of disappointed that 2face was killed off. Echart played it well and it could of extended into the next sequel, especially since they obviously can't get the Joker played with the same intensity again. I guess they will have to explore the Riddler.....I don't need to see Devito as the penguin again.

Sorry guys.....I didn't see this posted in the current thread.......and I didn't notice it until I ventured further into Homecourt posted by someone else.

I pulled this from Sekou's blog, he stated that the Hawks have explored at least one sign and trade possibility in the event that things go bad with the negotiations. Here is an excerpt from it: That’s our summer right there,” JJ said. “That’s all there is to it.” DOUBLETALK?: The standard line Hawks since last October has been that they’ll match any offers from other teams to both Smith and Childress. And up until now we haven’t had any reason to do anything but take them at their word. But a few of the NBA veterans in Tunica over the weekend warned me not to believe that hype. “That’s what everybody says until an offer sheet hits the table,” one guy said during an informal meeting of the minds on all things NBA. “And any good general manager keeps his options open no matter what. That’s the only way to keep from being blindsided.” That conversation prompted me to dial up an executive from another team and ask if he believed the Hawks would stay true to their word and match offers no matter what and shun sign-and-trade offers for Smith and Childress. And that’s when he hit me with a left hook I just didn’t see coming. “Not only will they consider a sign-and-trade for Smith, I know that they’ve talked with one team in particular about the potential of a sign-and-trade if things get out of hand,” he said. “I also know that they’ve turned away a couple of other teams that called interested in sign-and-trades for Smith; turned them away without so much as discussing the idea conceptually. But the longer this thing drags out the more likely things could change. You remember how things played out with Joe Johnson. The Suns swore they would match and that they wanted to keep him and then when they saw the price tag Atlanta was willing to pay they negotiated a sign-and-trade. Just because you reserve the right to match doesn’t mean you will. That’s just the way the business works.” That makes things even more interesting where Childress is concerned since there have been at least a half dozen teams peppering the Hawks with sign-and-trade offers for their sixth-man. The Clippers are exploring their options right now (perhaps expanding their list of targets to Luol Deng and Andre Iguodala, or not, according to one of my spies), and could very well hit Smith an offer sheet this week and turn the heat up on the Hawks. ... he wrote some other stuff as well so here is the link: http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...kets_again.html

Quote: The fact that LA is a top media market will elevate Smith's potential appeal ouside of basketball almost immeadiately. You can't overlook the fact that the vast majority of TV shows and movies are shot in LA. Some of your top entertainment agencies are LA based. There would be opportunities far beyond a 30 second TV commercial, that Smith could be in. And I'm pretty sure that Elton has either been in a few movies and TV shows. I need to check that to make sure. If Smith wants a piece of the limelight, he could easily get it in LA, and they would gladly give it to him, especially if the Clips get back into the playoffs.

Herb is joining his brother in Charlotte...read it on http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10889684 I know an experience GM has the ability to multi-task...hopefully we will see some moves in Hawk land sometime soon.

Quote: Once he wins...simple contract law (see AHF) he will do MUCH better for us (the fans) Don't be so quick to assume that.....he may be better to fans somewhere. Consider what just occurred in Seattle. If Belkin wins....the question should be is Boston large enough for 2 teams.....or which town would he be more likely to move the team to. Remember Belkin has no local ties....and only visited the team when they were in Massachusetts. He has far more reasons to relocate the team now than ever before.

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Quote: Braves demote Francoeur to Class AA Mississippi Talking about humble pie? Dude better figure this out or it could derail his career. Do you think he regrets turning down that contract now?...I remember during Shurholtz reign that Francoeur turned down one....guess he wanted a deal like McCann's. Shurholtz was right to wait.

Welcome back.....as you can see i don't post much.....but i have been visiting this site for over a decade.....your insight has been missed.

Quote: We would still hold Chillz bird rights. You know the Frontloading of a contract means absolutely nothing to the cap?!!? so, the best they could do is offer an 11 Million dollar deal. We'd still have about 10 million dollars before we hit the luxury tax limit. What's there to be worried about? Thanks for reminding me of that....I read it in another post. I don't get into the deals that deeply... but it aids my question because it makes the ASG question how much they want to spend overall. Philly is hoping to get one of them. This post is voided if Smooth leaves town with an offer but as of now, one hasn't been reported.

when I read what Philly's GM stated he said that Cheeks wanted more athletic players....Chillz is a quality glue guy that every team needs. Thats why other teams are looking at him. While he doesn't score as much as Smooth, I think he is just as valuable to a team because he quietly does alot of things to help his team. If Philly doesn't need him as you say....what reason is there for them inviting him in? Personally I hope ASG should bite the bullet and sign both guys. The harder decisions will come next year.

Philly's true target is Childress?,,,,They invite Smooth in town first....make him an offer that is alot higher than the Hawks want to match. ASG keeps the fans happy by sticking to what they have stated. They are then reluctant to sign Chillz for anything higher than whats expected...the MLE. I have been waiting all day for an offer to be made. How do the July 9th date come into play? Other players are getting deals around the league. If Smooth leaves town without being offered anything...what would be the reason other than smoke and mirrors. Chillz is visiting after Smooth, if they front load the deal for Smith will Philly still have cap space for Childress? But if they force us to overpay the first time then the second time around they may be able to pluck their true target, at a better deal cap wise for them, so they can make other deal. Similar to what happened to the Hawks with the dreaded Koncak deal......being handcuffed by the opposition.

Unless I'm mistaken, he has the right not to sign an offer sheet if he chooses to do so. He would be running the risk that he doesn't get hurt and may lose out on guaranteed cash. That being said if he forces the Hawks hand that way...I don't think anyone could argue against trading him during the season. The Hawks can't afford to let him walk for nothing. He wouldn't be able to block that and only a team with his bird rights can pay him max money. Especially if they are at the cap limit. Otherwise he would be diminishing his earning potential by limiting potential bidders.

Quote: if we could draft them, they wouldn't be undrafted lol Exactly.....we are going to pick some up for the Summer League anyways. The GM needs to explore every avenue, especially since he is planning on rounding out the roster on the cheap. For some reason while watching the draft I started thinking the frenzy to find the hidden gem would be similar to the NFL's draft, where teams start announcing free agent pickups the next day.....Thanks DJ...but since we play in the later league I hope he doesn't wait until then to construct the summer team.

Given that Sund stated before hand that he wasn't trading into the draft....shouldn't he have been at the ready to pounce on anyone that slipped by....was hoping to see some signings or offers today. How long do we have to wait before we hear anything? I don't have any rookies in mind, but was wondering about a reasonable time table. Someone help me out.

Just curious....why keep proposing any new trades to improve the team that acquires draft picks.....when Sund is already on record against adding anymore young players.....and looking to add veterans to improve the team?

Quote: Id rather pay Curry 10 mil for 16/6 in offensive post play then to pay Childress/Zaza 12 million per for no offensive post play. But we may only have to trade Zaza, Speedy and Salim Hmmm.....if you think that is a good idea........I would rather offer David Andersen......4-6 mil a year and bring him over......the Hawks would be in a better position long term......with less gamble. This is based on a post someone else posted recently about DA. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, are you suggesting that we will offer Zaza a larger contract once his expires, based on how he is playing?

Just in case anyone wants to check out Ford's latest, here it is: Shaquille O'Neal. Shawn Marion. Pau Gasol. Mike Bibby. And now Jason Kidd (almost). All traded this month. And don't forget last summer, when Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, among others, moved in blockbuster trades. But there's no time for us to catch our breath, because the trade deadline is only three days away, with no sign that the NBA's 30 teams are done dealing. GMs are burning up the phone lines. Trade talk was flying in New Orleans this weekend. Several top teams are now faced with matching the acquisitions by the Lakers, the Suns and apparently the Mavericks. Who's left out there? Which teams still want to make a move? Here's the latest breakdown of which teams might be hoping to make moves before the deadline Thursday at 3 p.m. ET. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Denver Nuggets The Nuggets appear to be the team most likely to make a big trade this week. Last season, their big move was to acquire Allen Iverson, with the hope that the combo of Iverson, Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby would be enough to make them competitive for the Western Conference crown. Now they're fighting just to make the playoffs in the ultracompetitive West. The Nuggets have been widely rumored to be zeroing in on a Ron Artest deal and have also been looking for a point guard. The names Andre Miller, Delonte West and Kyle Lowry have come up, among others. The Nuggets' tradable assets include roughly $8 million in expiring contracts, a first-round pick and Linas Kleiza, a young prospect who appeals to a number of teams. While the team would prefer to move Nene or Kenyon Martin as part of a big trade, their contracts look to be deal-killers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleveland Cavaliers They have been trying and trying to make a deal happen, but they've been stuck on the sidelines while Mike Bibby and now, it appears, Jason Kidd, have moved to other teams. Meanwhile, LeBron James stews. Cleveland's problem is plain. They just don't have enough of the assets they need -- expiring contracts, talented young players, multiple draft picks -- to swing a big trade. They have only $6 million (approximately) in expiring contracts, and Daniel Gibson is their only young player coveted by other teams, and he's not available. So while they may keep trying to get their hands on Andre Miller, Kyle Lowry, Javaris Crittenton or just about any other point guard out there with a heartbeat, their chances don't look good. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- San Antonio Spurs The defending champs added a small piece to the puzzle a few weeks ago when they signed free agent Damon Stoudamire. But is he enough to power the Spurs back into the Finals? The Spurs still need depth at center, at small forward and in the backcourt, and they have roughly $15 million in expiring contracts to move in trades. Believe it or not, Ron Artest's name has come up in San Antonio. Some believe that given the team's system, he can be controlled and would give them more toughness on the wing, where Bruce Bowen is slowing down. Bringing in Artest may sound far-fetched given the Spurs' emphasis on character and chemistry, but remember that Stephen Jackson was the starting shooting guard for one of the Spurs' recent title teams. If the need is powerful enough, San Antonio will do what it takes to win. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Bulls What are the Bulls doing? That's one of the questions heard most these days. The team's a mess, and no one knows what their strategy is. It's no secret that Ben Wallace is available, less than two years after Chicago made him their big catch of 2006. But unless the Bulls are willing to attach Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah to a Wallace trade, it looks unlikely that they'll be able to move him. The Knicks have shown significant interest in acquiring Wallace, but the Bulls can't be excited about bringing in Quentin Richardson and Malik Rose -- those guys aren't going to put the Bulls over the top. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Utah Jazz The Jazz already made one significant move this season, sending Gordan Giricek to Philadelphia for sharpshooter Kyle Korver. The team has been on fire since the move, but Utah still might be feeling a little anxious about its chances in the beefed-up West. Andrei Kirilenko demanded a trade at the start of the season, but has since settled in and played well. Still, given his contract, he's a luxury the Jazz might be willing to move if they were to get back the right pieces for a playoff run. The team would love an athletic center and some overall depth, especially in the backcourt. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Jersey Nets If the Kidd trade finally goes through, only half of Rod Thorn's work will be done: The Nets still need to find a new home for Vince Carter. The problem is that VC's contract is a deal-killer for almost every team in the league -- after this season he has three years and $52 million guaranteed. The Knicks apparently would be willing to bring on Carter, but New Jersey might not be willing to make a deal with New York. The Nets have been trying to get the Pacers to take Carter for Jermaine O'Neal, but they'd have to find a third team willing to take Carter. The Pacers are trying to reduce payroll, not add to it long-term. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phoenix Suns Yes, they made their big move, but there are rumblings the Suns aren't done remaking their roster. The team is still looking for a backup point guard and, we're told, a rebounding center to support Shaq. Word is that they're looking at players like Tyronn Lue (who was just traded to Sacramento, but could be repackaged again) and the Pacers' Jeff Foster. The Suns don't have big expiring contracts, but they do have the Hawks' first-round draft pick this year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miami Heat The Shawn Marion trade may just be the tip of the iceberg for Miami. Pat Riley won't ever move into true rebuilding mode. He's trying to use the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to add a couple of more pieces to the Heat's core. He's been eyeing Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry from Memphis as well as some of the Blazers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Houston Rockets The Rockets were supposed to be a title contender coming into the season, and maybe they will be. But they are also fighting just to reach the playoffs after a rough start to the season. The point guard position continues to be a problem, and the team could still use an athletic big man. Unfortunately, the Rockets don't have a lot of trade assets unless they can find a taker for someone like Shane Battier or Rafer Alston. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orlando Magic They spent a fortune on Rashard Lewis this summer, and they're having a good season. But no one believes Orlando is a serious threat to Boston or Detroit. That could change if the Magic could land a power forward. They have two similar players in Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu, plus roughly $13 million in expiring contracts and J.J. Redick also available if the right deal comes along. Who would make sense for Orlando? Andrei Kirilenko for Turkoglu and expiring contracts might work for both the Magic and the Jazz. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Portland Trail Blazers The Blazers could probably leave well enough alone. The team is playing ahead of expectations, and it has a great young core. Next season, with a healthy Greg Oden, the Blazers could be a real threat in the West. But GM Kevin Pritchard has one of the itchiest fingers in the West as well as looming roster issues, and I'm told he's been among the most active GMs on the phones, trying to make something happen. His goal is to take a number of smaller assets and turn them into core players at point guard and small forward. He made a determined effort to nab Devin Harris from Dallas and also has been in hot pursuit of the Pacers' Danny Granger. He may land neither, but he is ready to give up players like Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez, Jarrett Jack and Martell Webster if the right opportunity comes up. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boston Celtics Though they have the best record in the league, the Celtics would like to improve their depth, especially at point guard and in the middle. If the Clippers end up waiving Sam Cassell, he's expected to land in Boston. But the Celtics might not want to take a chance that Cassell remains with the Clippers or is acquired by another team. Unfortunately, the Celtics don't have any major assets they are willing to move, so a meaningful trade is not likely. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memphis Grizzlies Now that they've moved Pau Gasol, the widespread assumption is that the team is in fire sale mode -- recent scuttlebutt that the team is unlikely to use its salary cap space this summer only feeds the speculation. Mike Miller has been available for a while, and now it appears the Grizzlies would like to move Kyle Lowry or Javaris Crittenton as well. GM Chris Wallace says he doesn't want to just give away those players for cap space and crappy draft picks. But after the Gasol trade, why should we expect him to hold out for more for Miller or Lowry? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indiana Pacers They're in a quandary. They don't want to give Jermaine O'Neal away, but until he can prove that he's healthy, his trade value isn't high enough for the Pacers to get what they think is fair value. Other teams want Danny Granger and Shawne Williams, but I'm told the Pacers have rebuffed offers for both. That leaves Jeff Foster as perhaps their best trade chip -- a guy with enough size, toughness and rebounding ability to be valuable on a championship-caliber team. The Pacers have shopped Jamaal Tinsley for years, without success. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sacramento Kings The team is in rebuilding mode, as the Mike Bibby trade showed. Therefore, keeping Ron Artest and the Kings' other veterans wouldn't make a lot of sense. Artest, Kenny Thomas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Brad Miller can be had. Unfortunately, those players -- with the possible exception of Artest -- are hard to move. Thomas has two years and $17 million left on his contract, while Abdur-Rahim has two years and $13 million remaining and Miller has two years and $23 million to go. Of the four, Artest has the most palatable contract, in part because he can opt out at the end of the season. And Miller's played well enough that the Kings might be able to find a taker. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milwaukee Bucks With Bucks GM Larry Harris in trouble, no one's sure whether owner Herb Kohl will let him make a deal. If the Bucks are active, don't be surprised if the player moved is Michael Redd. He has a ton of talent, but the three years and $34 million left on his contract are a concern for Milwaukee -- and for potential trade partners as well. Charlie Villanueva would be easier to move. Yi Jianlian is the future at the 4, so the Bucks should move Villanueva while he still has some value. But the team has been trying to package him with Bobby Simmons -- two years, $20 million remaining -- which is why they haven't found any takers yet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seattle SuperSonics The Sonics continue to position for the future, looking to move talented players for expiring contracts and draft picks. They've received interest in several players, including Kurt Thomas, Delonte West, Chris Wilcox and Johan Petro. Thomas and West have expiring contracts, so they will cost teams an expiring contract back and a first-round pick. The Sonics would consider taking back only expiring contracts for Wilcox and Nick Collison, I'm told. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York Knicks It's fitting to put the Knicks at the bottom of this list, considering they've been offering dead weight like Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph (and even more undesirable players) around the league. So far, no one is biting. To be fair, each player has been hurt by playing value alongside the other, so their trade values might be artificially low. It doesn't help matters when every team that deals with the Knicks expects them to take back terrible contracts in return. But Isiah Thomas has said he's no longer taking back huge contracts. If that's true, the chances of a big Knicks trade is pretty small unless Thomas decides he's willing to move David Lee or Nate Robinson. Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

Merry Christmas everyone........enjoy this holiday season.

typo.........obvious I'm not an owner....but you all are smart enough to get the point.

I believe that Chillz will end up being the odd man out between him, Marvin, and Smooth. While I like him, he gets injured alot and for what he brings I believe it can be easier replaced. My question is if you believe that Acie is our PG of the future, why sign Duhon when we already have a veteran backup in AJ. I know his contract is up at the end of this season and someone posted he is playing for a contract, but so is any other veteran FA we may bring in. AJ has been steady everywhere he's been, but has been labeled as a backup. When given the opportunity he has been steady for just about every team he has been on.We should be able to keep him for areound the MLE. With the amount of expirings and if we get lucky enough that Claxton retire, doubtful, there shouldn't be any problem keeping Marvin, JJ, Smith, along with Horford and Acie around for the future. As the team wins, we owners should be willing to spend as long as the battle between them doesn't interfere.