Another road loss

[Diesel]

What's wrong with Miller? Ingrown toenail??

Normal for vets to sit out preseason. Look at Oakley. No vet really wants to run windsprints and stuff.

However, that had nothing to do with what I was saying. You are a master of talking about the irrelevant.

[Guest]

Whatever.You are like"They must have not played

Miller to make a point"The dude hasn't played in

a game yet this preseason.Again you do nothing

but reach for the stupidest stuff.Start making some

sense will you?If you did it wouldn't be so easy to

clown on you.

[Lrenfro]

How is it that we get sucked in to this dudes Hoorahh/boo attitude. I mean you want to respect him as a fan but what is he a fan of. Is he a hawks fan, a NBA fan ,a Reef fan or just a fan of controversy. I have to refrain from responding to everything he says I have to remember what fraim of mind he is speaking from. I do like having him around though. I have to admit he at least speaks what he feels. I know I am pretty much dorment. I come in and read but I don't post much. I guess I am not as intence a fan of the nba as I am of the Hawks. As a matter of fact I pretty much only watch the Hawks. I only watch the other teams when the playoffs come around. So I have to give him his props on that. He atleast has an oppinion on alot of the other players.

[Guest]

Fans like you can't take the truth.I'm not a

complete "rah rah rah"fan and I'm not stupid

enough to look at us a top team in the east

when we might come in at 6th but probably

8th spot.

"I guess I am not as intence a fan of the nba

as I am of the Hawks. As a matter of fact I

pretty much only watch the Hawks. I only

watch the other teams when the playoffs come

around."

So that pretty much limits your knowledge of the

NBA.You probably feel we are the best team in

the league.I don't let biased get in the way on

most times.

" I mean you want to respect him as a fan but

what is he a fan of. "

I don't post on here for peoples respect nor do

I really care if I have yours.You can hate my

guts for all I care.I know there is people that

hate the truth and you are one of them.

" I only watch the other teams when the playoffs

come around. So I have to give him his props on

that."

I watch and observe most of the NBA.Guys like

you will probably get pissed cause I state Reef

isn't a top 5 PF in the league.Hell JT is my favorite

player on the team but I am smart enough to

realize he isn't a top 20 player.

Did your post really have a point?I remember you

from the other board.You struggle with the truth.

I am a unbiased fan.If you can understand what

that means.

[Diesel]

No disrespect intended but for you the glass is always half empty. It's not about being rah rah at all. The Hawks have the best front court in the East. And JT isn't that bad either. The realistic fans sees that there will be some time for chemistry to develop. However, if we keep Theo SAR, Big Dog, Hendu, and JT healthy, we will be very hard to stop.

One preseason game without Big Dog doesn't determine us to be 8th in the East? IN fact, we have better talent than that. I agree though, coaching will be under the microscope.

[Guest]

Welp I was burned last year for giving the team

the benefit of the doubt at the start of the season.

I do realize the talent that is here....however we are

Atlanta and so far it hasn't been destiny for the Hawks

to really do much....

I admit I was being dumb when I predict us a final

appearence when we got Big Dog.It was a deal where

i was really excited the dumb comment came out.

With only 3 teams NY/Miami/Cleveland out of the

playoff race it will be tough.Boston's PG spot hasnt

looked good either.

I probably shouldn't be mad about the loss to Indy

because I don't think we will be better than them

anyway.

However while I see only NJ/Indy/Hornets with more

talent than there is Washington that should win 46

games also.But the Hornets actually have a slighty

aging frontline so we will see....

But right now I can't give the team the benefit of

the doubt with just a good team on paper.

[Diesel]

Teams we are better than in the east:

NY/Cleveland/Miami/Detroit/Milwaukee/Philly/Toronto/Chicago.

Teams that will give us trouble but our frontcourt should help s beat.....

Orlando/Boston.

Teams that we probably can't beat in a best of 7

New Jersey/Charlotte

Teams where anything can happen

Washington/Indiana

So from the top Column, I expect about 26 wins.

From the Second column, i expect 4 wins.

From the 3rd Column, 2 wins.

From the 4th column, I expect between 2 to 4 wins.

IN conference, that's 34 to 36 games.

That still leaves us 28 games in the west. If we go .500 in the west, we can end up with 48 to 50 wins overall.

All we have to do is make it happen.

[Guest]

On paper we are better than some teams but

games aren't won on paper.

The team has to prove it can win.

[Diesel]

This wasn't a talent look. This is just teams we can beat and not in my opinion. I agree that games are not won on paper however, my standard is that and if we start losing to teams like Cleveland, NY, CHicaog, etc... Then maybe it's time to change the equation. That means saying goodbye to Lon. For truly, if we can't win with what I call the best Frontcourt in the East... Then we need to change something.