It's pretty sickening.

[Plainview1981]

This kind of thing is why I can't call the Celtics a real championship team. They blow leads, they and sometimes play heartless on the road. Their video game team might win the championship, but they'll be mostly forgotten like Miami the year they won the championship.

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video game team? If this was a finals against the spurs or any other western team, that'd be the case. But against the "gasol and fisher for free" lakers that is not really the case.

In any case, its not a matter of heart, its a matter of going away from what works, which is entirely Doc's fault. The celtics have been killing the lakers on the boards and in the paint, so what does doc do in the 4th? Goes small with rondo, allen, posey, pierce and KG. I really have no idea what was going on on Doc's mind. Was he testing that formation, thinking the game was in the bag?

[Plainview1981]

Yeah, they had a shitty team last year and then go trade for two star/superstar players. That's video game stuff. Fisher is a role player and not a star player.... Gasol is a solid player, but not a real star. He is Reef with more height basically. Lacks heart or toughness in his game and doesnt get the tough reounds most nights.

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well, but the celtics actually gave up something to get something. The Garnett trade was probably the best deal the wolves could get, as Al jefferson will likely go to 5-7 all star games, and minnesota got their draft pick back.

Gasol hadnt really been playing well this past year and a half, but remember, he was the best player on a 49 win team in the west, and the lakers gave up absolutely nothing of value to get him, same for a proven PG. Lakers went from a 5th, 6th seed to a 1 in 2 months because of that.

I get it that given the physical series that was hawks-celtics, a hawks fan would dislike the celtics. But the two things you have mentioned against the celtics actually apply more to the lakers than the celtics.

Celtics were suddenly improved because of trades? Yeah, sure, but they had to give up their future because of that, and settle for a 2-3 year window. Lakers gave up nothing and have a legitimate shot at a dinasty, considering they've been this good without bynum, which would solve lakers rebounding problem.

Character? Yeah, PP throwing up signs at Holford was classless, but you have Kobe on the other side. Phil Jackson has stated publicly that he wasnt surprised that Kobe was accused of rape. How much of a bastard does one have to be that your coworkers say something like that about him?

[Plainview1981]

well, but the celtics actually gave up something to get something. The Garnett trade was probably the best deal the wolves could get, as Al jefferson will likely go to 5-7 all star games, and minnesota got their draft pick back.

Yes, I know Boston gave up a future player.... But right now KG is a way better player and was in the MVP running.

Gasol hadnt really been playing well this past year and a half, but remember, he was the best player on a 49 win team in the west, and the lakers gave up absolutely nothing of value to get him, same for a proven PG. Lakers went from a 5th, 6th seed to a 1 in 2 months because of that.

Well, I never said he wasn't a good player. He is, but he's not a star.

This year Boston is a video game team. It's the same thing with the Yanks trading away good players or/and prospects for really top notch players.

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This kind of thing is why I can't call the Celtics a real championship team. They blow leads, they and sometimes play heartless on the road. Their video game team might win the championship, but they'll be mostly forgotten like Miami the year they won the championship.

Heartless like that comeback in game 4?

[Plainview1981]

If they had any heart they wouldn't have lost 7 road games in a row in the playoffs to start with. One game doesn't change that has gone on for the bulk of the playoffs. It's almost totally predictable that an NBA team will blow the big lead. The Celtics right before that blew a big lead in basically half a period. Teams blow big leads all the time. Andm moreover, like I said, the league is heavily manipulated anyway. A blowout loss for Boston could have been somewhat a disaster for the league.