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  1. Those squads look good to and yes I definitely get it. Jaylen Brown, Paul George, KAT, Ayton are all on my list as far as that 3rd star. Honestly you're right too I'd rather have KAT with OO if I were going to move OO to power forward. Actually KAT could just be the PF. I was about to correct myself original post exchanging Ayton for KAT because I did say if we had it out way. I like Ayton Better as an overall player but KAT would be the best fit.
  2. If I had it my way mine would be Starters PG Trae Young SG Dejounte Murray SF Saddiq Bey PF Onyeka Okongwu C Deandre Ayton Bench PG Kobe Bufkin SG Bogdan Bogdanovic SF AJ Griffin PF Jalen Johnson C Brook Lopez Honestly I'd be happy staying pat but with all the talks of more changes to come I doubt we do that. This team would give us size and I believe Onyeka can move into the power forward spot with a good shooting/3 point shooting Center. With Ayton the Hawks can have their "big 3" plus plus because of all the versatility on the team. I'd add KAT too but I'd doubt we'd be able to get him without tearing into our new youth movement (Bey, OO, JJ, AJ, rooks). I think Suns may prefer Clint/Hunter/Bogi but to keep salary under wraps they may only be able to get 2 unless Saddiq Bey replaces Hunter but I know we want to keep Bey for the long haul. So I guess we'll see how it goes. Honestly again personally I'd add Brook Lopez and stand pat but if we have to make a bang this is the route I'd go.
  3. Yeah even though the Reddish trade is still slightly different to me because I really believe he's a rare talent and if he gets his mind right will eventually blossom. Into just that. Don't get me wrong JC is in rare air himself in many ways especially when at his best but with the way we've continued to use him it does not validate his price/value. He was the 4th option or less in many occasions even when he was considered our #2 guy. Capela and Hunter was getting more touches than him and in many cases unless an alley was thrown his way or he got open for the 3 JC was almost invisible out there compared to what he's worth. Either way most people are judging our team based off of Nate McMillan's construction/philosophies and because of his lack to develop we didn't utilize our roster to it's full strength. I usually don't bet on anyone but myself but I can almost guarantee this team even with the same faces will look completely different next season.
  4. Funny thing is I always thought we stayed away from Gay even in his prime because of the perception of the city but I guess since most of this world has folded in that regard it won't be as much of a distraction to have to Gueye's/Gay's .
  5. We clearly got robbed as far as the actual trade goes JC for (almost retiree) Rudy Gay and a future 2nd round pick. Let me be clear about that. What if it was less of a robbery and more of a let's leave it outside and see if someone takes it situation. I know last yr was a bad example but we truly are a very deep team with not enough minutes for everyone. Trading JC for a guy that should be great in the locker room but won't touch the floor is exactly what we needed. It's a win win for both teams. It leaves us flexible and allows our young hungry talent to have a spot cleared so they can freely hop into the rotation. PG Trae Young SG DJ SF Hunter PF Bey C Clint PG Kobe SG Bogi SF AJ PF JJ C OO That's still a deep and talented team top to bottom. Knowing Quinn he might just play 9 which leaves Kobe out for more time to develop. Either way our log jam is cleared, we're under the luxury tax and we're flexible enough to make more moves if necessary or the option becomes available. Yes we got robbed but let's be honest a divorce was necessary for both parties and it also looks like a win win because of the things I've mentioned above.
  6. I'm not sure if idiot is the word I would use but definitely self sabotaging. All and all because Landry and company actually does have a good sense of what there doing the JC move may be a blessing in disguise for both parties. In our case not just the money we saved and room accumulated but also I think people under value how deep we are as a whole and unfortunately someone needed to be moved in order to make room for others. Of course Utah got a steal on their side (glad he's out west) and with JC playing on a team that should definitely make him more inclusive he should be able to reach levels we knew he was capable of and more. I think when it's all said and done it will be a win win for both parties which ironically would make Ressler look more like a genius for putting us in this predicament.
  7. I envision my teams differently so I get it not being the norm but I would develop Mo Gee into that. A 6'11 small forward to pair with smaller guards to balance the length. PG Trae SG DJ SF MoGee PF JC C OO/CC (either or)... MoGee makes a flexible enough to start the smaller Onyeka/JC combo but not lose defense and spacing. If you want to keep it simple you could use Bey, JJ or AJ in that position as well. I like Hunter he surprised me as far as his floor but his game currently does consist of a lot of ball stopping, non passing/movement that we need to get away from in order to take that next step. If Hunter continues to work on his handles and passing ability this might be a different/mute story. If he continues along his trajectory unfortunately he may be a trade option. It looks like as far as our team building goes we are looking for more fluid players than players that are a little more mechanical or robotic. Which is why players like Hunter, JC and Clint seem to be on the block.
  8. Ironically yes his footwork is very fluid but I was more impressed by his vision. Most bigs aren't good with passing out the post or in general at times but he's passing off the dribbles and all. I didn't realize he was that skilled but he really has a complete package and if developed properly which I believe we should. A definite still at the #39 pick and if not mistaken got him from the Celtics(rivals) at that! He's wearing #35 and really slick reminding me of Durant in that manner but I believe most of you all got it right with the Siakam comparisons. If Lundy pans out too which I believe he could in the right system (hopefully ours), we could definitely change the narrative as far as our drafts in the 2nd round goes. The thing that makes all our draft picks stand out to me this yr besides their talent is their maturity. They're more posed than your typical wide eye rookie and they seem to mean all business and have a strong love for the game. If they all pan out this draft may in hindsight be talked about for yrs to come.
  9. Nice try but you might regret that even more once you here how that's actually pronounced
  10. Preciate it @Spud2nique good to be heard! For some reason this site has been acting up on me and wouldn't let me do much besides a simple like and with life being busy I had to fade from here a little bit but of course still a die hard fan.
  11. Trae Young - didn't expect to be in trade rumors. Definitely didn't play his best last season and finally has a coach that he seems to be on the same page with. I believe after this yr the superstar talk for Trae Young will no longer fade until he's pass his prime. Dejounte Murray just witnessed a player being drafted by the name of Kobe Bufkin that has a very similar mold and game to himself. Plus he's in a contract yr... On top of the $$ motivation competition should also bring out the best in him. DeAndre Hunter has been mentioned in the mold of baby Kawhi and still has the potential but is currently far from that. If he continues to work on his handles and gets back to his staple on defense I believe his game will be a lot more consistent this up and coming season and his expectations for himself should elevate him as well. John Collins as the biggest name in trade rumors on our team for yrs now. I think he is starting to realize the only way to get out of Atlanta is to play his way out of Atlanta by raising his value. I believe in the midst of him trying to do just that and with the familiarity he has with this team he'll realize the grass isn't greener elsewhere and we'll realize the same as far as him still being a great option on our team. His finger is about as healed as it will be and this is the yr JC gives the finger to his low trade value. Clint Capela has also been hearing his name in trade rumors and is the type of guy that can go as hard as the team goes. If we truly play with grit, defense and like we want to win Clint will make sure he does his part. Onyeka Okongwu will definitely be coming for Clints position this season which should continue to elevate both of their efforts and game. Bogdan Bogdanovic at the very least will play hard for the 6thman award and ready to fill in as a starter if trades or anything occurs. Jalen Johnson/AJ Griffin both have seen/shown small glimpses of their potential and are hungry to get and keep playing time. Saddiq Bey like Murray will be playing for a contract but unlike Murray he's also playing to keep a legitimate role or bigger role on this team. He's seen what it's like to play for a bad team in this league and doesn't mind giving that extra effort or filling whatever role necessary to win. He also will have a full season with the team which helps strengthen the chemistry and overall production. Rookies typically automatically come with chips to improve their game. With the ones we drafted Kobe Bufkin, Seth Lundy and Mouhamed Gueye as well as Tyrese Martin they should be working hard every day to improve in hopes of getting playing time. If anything they should at least keep the College Park Skyhawks interesting. Motivation is a key factor in all actions especially sports and watching Miami do what they did was motivation especially for us seeing what they did to us the yr before last and what we were able to do to them in the play in tournament. Add that with us now owing Boston and Milwaukee as well. To top it off besides guys like OO, JJ, AJ, Bey and Bogi most of our guys know they didn't put it all there or play to their best abilities last season it will be very interesting to see the mentality they come with this season but if they really love the game they should all have that extra edge. I think Laundry Fields will be watching closely for that this season which will determine who stays and who goes by seasons end. I believe our front office has the biggest chip of them all to prove their relevance and looking at the moves they've made so far like getting Saddiq Bey without losing pieces and the draft we just had they are definitely moving in the right direction.
  12. It's been awhile. I feel like I've been muffled with many of my attempted post last season not posting but hopefully this works. #15 pick Kobe Bufkin PG/SG 6'5 I was not too familiar with the players in this draft but after watching a few clips he seems like everything we want or wanted Dejounte Murray to be for us and is a great insurance policy either way and leaves us flexible if we decide to make a trade. Kobe's love for basketball is very apparent in the hustle grit and tenacity that he plays with and he's flexible enough to pair with any of our guards at the PG/SG position. #46 Seth Lundy SG 6'6 It seems as if Fields still kept a page from Travis as Lundy is very much so in the mold of a Klay Thompson. He's another gritty player that can be molded into a formidable 3 & D player and seems like a great character guy who knows his role. #39 Mouhamed Gueye F/C 6'11 I believe this was a great under the radar pickup as it gives us a unicorn type big to mold and develop. Not a 7ft unicorn but a big that has handles and shoots threes frequently he may even be able to slide to positions typically made for smaller players like the small forward position. Besides Durant, Bol Bol, Jonathan Isaac and Jaden McDaniels and Wemby not too many can be that flexible but I believe with Gueye that is a great possibility. He is a great second leaper, has a faceup game and can play defense but is currently weak in the post. Still he can pair well with our bigs like Onyeka and Clint giving us size and a versatility we didn't have before. Overall I love the insight we used and the thought process we're going with as far as building this team and the culture of it. Travis has been keen on getting guys dat can dribble, shoot, pass. Fields has took it a step further and added guys that can do that as well as defend and most importantly are quality guys that have a true love and passion for the game. This lights a fire in all of our players already currently here or gives us more flexibility to move on. With the culture we're trying to build gone will be the days when we are witnessing our players not giving it there all. We've taken a page out of the Heat's book where I players may not possess the biggest names but they are going to put it all out there every night regardless of the competition. Our youth movement looks very strong with players that already have that winning mentality in OO, AJ and JJ and add Kobe and Seth to the mix as well as Gueye and we got something that might be very special brewing. Add the fact that we still have a young core even with our starters and the fact that everyone of our players has a good reason to enter this season with a real chip on our shoulders we should see something very special for our team this following season. The league is definitely deep now so chip promises but I wouldn't be surprised if we atleast made it to the Eastern Conference Finals again even if we make no further changes. Of course all the credit will go to coach Quinn but cool we have him for awhile and ultimately Hawks praise is Hawks praise!!
  13. Right now as surprising as it may sound I think our best current 1st round match up will be against Milwaukee. We've done a pretty good job of going toe to toe with them (atleast under Nate) and if coach Quinn utilizes the old staff correctly to keep that edge it might give us the momentum and confidence needed to keep propelling forward.
  14. To sum up the highlights for me, John Collins had a block party and Zach Collins figured because he was a Collins he could get in. He got rejected... Then the Johnson's tried to show up. We had to tell them no Spurs allowed lol
  15. Bogi for J Crowder and Shamet possibly 2nd rounder. We could use the toughness that Crowder brings and him and Shamet can help with our outside shooting. With Crowders experience and defensive mindset he can help change the moxy of our team and leave Trae who has been getting better as one of the only weak defenders on the squad.
  16. Sometimes there's nothing wrong with the parents or partners as individuals but sometimes it's just not the best pairing. I've watched Trae undermine Nate the past season and things haven't really gotten better. When I saw Dejounte do it with our game verses the Nets I knew there was a problem. Nothing against Nate and I honestly think he's a pretty good coach but doesn't seem to be relating correctly to our young stars. We all know Trae is capable of more than he's been doing this yr. We could talk about trading players but we honestly have a lot of talent and who wants another rebuild? I guess my question is who would actually fit with these young stars and lead them instead of so much turmoil and conflict. Off the top of my head it would have to be an old player they respect. AI lacks the discipline but is TMac looking into any coaching options? He would definitely further unlock DJ's game, he actually played with us one yr so has some kinda ties to the organization and Trae has shown the last 2yrs for the most part that coaches aren't the key factors to players winning on the court. If they can respect a guy like TMac at this point he will probably be our best option if we end up changing coaches at all. I'm nervous about Nash else I would include him but what do y'all think?
  17. As much as I like our players individually until we start playing as a unit or a fist as Nate constantly says it's hard to watch at times. At the same time we are not even halfway thru the season. I've said this all yr but this is probably the most balanced the league has been all yr. Dallas was out of the playoff runnings either a month to 3wks ago and I look up and there in 4th place with room to do more. Saying all that to say is just like Atl has been the "New Hollywood" our basketball team could be replicating the same thing. "The New Hollywood" filled with a season of drama but us putting it all together at the right time by the end of the season. Trae has been in enough commercials to let me know he doesn't mind a little acting. Not saying this is an act but looking at the standings we are 10 wins away from being at the top. Sure the East is a beast and no joke this yr but we are still right in the thick of things. Atleast for now lol. Seriously though every team or atleast most are going thru a thrill ride of ups and downs this season and for us in particular I'd like to get our downs out the way earlier instead of later. We have the talent/players although we could add more height/defense/toughness. Hopefully we can put it all together at the right time.
  18. Well if Dejounte knew how to throw allies to our bigs or was willing to this could've been a win. We looked good without Trae at times and I could see a Hunter and Clint added to that would be deadly defensively. Until Dejounte learns to truly utilize our bigs like Trae can and also more consistent on his shots our team would honestly be better as a unit if we play as a unit.
  19. Whether we're looking at below or above .500 or who stays and who goes, today will be a big determinating factor. Being only 5 wins away from catching Milwaukee, Cleveland and even Brooklyn who we are facing tonight. 8 wins away from tying league leading Boston. Honestly when we look at it that way it's laughable that people are bringing/having so much drama when it relates to our team. This year is probably the most balanced the league has ever been since having 30 team seasons. The drama comes though because even though the league might be tough, we aren't playing up to par. Yes that means we're 17 - 17 but could be up a lot more if we played to our full capabilities. That's not laughable and it seems to point to our young superstar who has been playing more like an all-star at best this yr. We once again may not be playing with atleast 3 starters tonight. Which makes this game a lot harder but also makes this a good assessment game. We are going to see if we hold back or show off because even though it hasn't been many games without Trae Young, we're undefeated this season without him. Without 2 of our best defenders we also get to evaluate our possible future in having an OO/JC frontcourt or moving on from that convo. It will show if Dejounte Murray is or would be a better floor general for us than Trae. A lot of things will be something to watch closely. There's a lot of pressure on this game in many ways then one. Pressure is good for those that are mentally and physically prepared for pressure. Pressure creates contenders and potential champions. We will soon see if this team or what players can handle this pressure which may decide what our team looks like in the near future.
  20. Sounds good until you look across the league. Who has a perfect team? Most have great teams. I like Bamba although I'm thankful we didn't take him over Trae. I get your point but it's a give and take in this league. Who are these players who would be easily tradeable and replace or be a better fit than what we have? Again I get needing size and still like Mo Bamba although I'd bet it would be more that complain about him if we had him over OO. We had Cam which is an ideal type of player to play with Trae and that didn't work for whatever reason. So many talk about trading John but how many versatile inside out forwards with the kinda consistency and growth he's had is out there? Shooters go thru slumps even the best of em. John before this season has been an added bonus in that regard. Hunter is getting more and more consistent but since we have a complete team doesn't have to be that extra star for us to win games although the potential is there and again most of our good players are under the peak age of 26. Yet we're still 4th with an opportunity to rise and individually get better as well as overall get better. This proves my point when I say we're spoiled as fans. Look at the Celtics who stuck with their team and have been thru it longer and are older than us overall. If we're honestly speaking/projecting our team is built better if we consider them at their prime vs us when we reach ours yet we lack the patience to sit back and enjoy the growth.
  21. As a franchise no. As fans yes their are plenty around here that forgot or don't know what it took to get here and where we were before hand. It's a process.
  22. To add to that when our longest losing streak this yr has only been 3 games. We're definitely still in it to win it & we have many opposing teams that could be in our way's number!!
  23. We have a team where most of our stars/starters haven't even reached their prime. That includes Trae, JC, Hunter and many more. We're over .500 after 20 games which we haven't done in awhile. Coach Nate has actually played young players across the board with AJ being the most surprising/deserving to get minutes so early. We've beaten pretty much every top team/streaking team that we've faced so far. We've won without our stars including our main star in Trae. We are top 4/1st in our conference in a deep league where every game is a challenge. If you've been a Hawks fan as long as I have it would be hard to imagine so many pluses and this again comes with us not even playing at our peak. Nobody on our team has played their best ball to date we still have a lot of growing to do and much chemistry to build. Not saying we should be satisfied but we have to much to celebrate to complain. Let's be thankful we aren't the Knicks (with a coach way more stubborn than Nate) or the Lakers, Bulls and other squads who are over the luxury tax but not producing. This league is probably the toughest it's ever been from top to bottom and yet we're resting at the top of it! It may take 40 games in to see who's really who but seeing that we've nowhere near played our best we got nowhere to go but up!! Patience
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