Watchman

You left off Cash Considerations. Not sure what position he plays.

No. PG-13 lives on the injured reserve list.

And people complain about Collins at $25 mil per year.

Hard to do much when you are constrained to play on the corner 3 point line. You're not in position to rebound, and you're not in position to score in the low post.

I would say he made a reasonable assessment, no histrionics included.

The same could be said for anyone on our roster, or those who were thrown on the garbage heap for nothing.

Older model, but has low mileage due to all the missed games.

Shame they didn't give Collins the same opportunity.

We had veterans. We gave them away for nothing. Tell me who you think these miracle working vets that we're going to acquire are. People like DFS aren't going to put us over the top. Neither will Ayton or KAT. Who should we get? Are they already overpaid? .Are they on a short contract? Using your approach, if we acquire those players, we will have to replace them every year or two. What if their replacements aren't as good. It sounds like a plan for perpetual .500 basketball. As interested as playing for Snyder might be for certain players, the reputation and track record of our front office will be an equal deterrent. As for your question in your next to the last paragraph, it is irrelevant until we have such a player.

You so silly...They ain't gonna get back into luxury tax territory.

Trading Vit for KAT would be taking 3 steps forward and 5 steps back.

Why do we need veterans? We just give them away for peanuts so that Ressler doesn't have to pay the luxury tax. Nothing this move did gave us "flexibility." We want a so-called star or above average player, we have to overpay to get them (the league is laughing at our "management" team over giving away Collins for nothing.) You spend a portion of your cap to get a mid-level player. There's a reason their salary is mid-level. We have done nothing but make fools of ourselves. BTW, Trae is not going to get you a championship either. Once again, Hawks management has royally screwed things up. I guarantee you that Collins, under a real head coach, with a good offensive system, would have played better. But once again, management's short sightedness shines forth in all its glory, and trades him for nothing, before he ever had a chance to work under Quin's system. Anything will be better than alternating one on one with Trae and Murray, while everyone else stands around and watches. Hate to tell you this, but we overpaid for Bogi too. We obviously greatly overpaid for Trae. Based on your comments, you seem to thank management will now play hard ball with our free agents. I look forward to see how that works out with DM. He's going to go with whoever will pay him.

What talent that fits better would that be? Mid level salary players with a year remaining on their contract? Your "eye test" is meaningless, just an opinion like everyone else's, you just don't like Collins. BTW, "elite shot creator"...are you Trae's dad?

Bill Russell (to Celtics) for Ed Macauley and Cliff Hagan (to Hawks).

Hate to tell you this, but no one we would be able to acquire will make us a championship team. Quin will get tired of this mess after about three years, if not sooner, and will leave us just like he did with Utah. KAT, Siakam (as I have been bombarded with), Gobert, Oden nor any of the other alleged targets we seek will make us a championship team. The mid level players mentioned won't help us either.

I look forward to watching JJ shut down Siakam, Randle and Giannis.

I agree, other than the fact that Embiid is out for three weeks every time he gets a hangnail.

Fouling out seems to be a big problem for OO. Hopefully Quin can help him figure out how to cut down on that.

Wow, the headline says John Collins was traded to the Hawks. I guess we changed our minds.

I don't think so. They get their paycheck, no matter what team they play for.

Bey is the worst defensive player on the team, and we have more than our fair share of bad defenders. When I got out of the hospital a couple of years ago, I had to use a walker for awhile. My wife and I joke when we watch Hawks and other NBA games, that "I could have done better than that on my walker." Bey is much better on offense than Hunter though.

I don't understand the fascination with Finney-Smith. Using my limited "casual" skills, it appears he is not particularly good on defense, based on his defensive rating. He plays a lot of minutes, but scores at a low rate. Nothing special on the boards. Mediocre free throw shooter. Not a big assist man.

If any team can find a way to mess it up, it would be the Hawks.

I mean traded. He was terrible as the playoffs progressed. Maybe we could get another trade exception and a second rounder.