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That's what I'm hoping for too. Summer league is just 4 games. That happens to be exactly how many he played in the ECFs. Given what he showed during those games, if I'm Cam (or his agent), I'm saying that he already got his summer live ball reps and would rather sit out SL so as not to risk injury. Probably wishful thinking, though...

Could the explanation simply be Cam said "Hey, on further reflection, I don't think I'll get much out of summer league at this point. I'd rather work on my body and game separately and save my legs for training camp," and TS didn't feel strongly enough to contest the issue? Given that Cam is up for an extension next summer (like Trae and Huerter are this Sunday), *he* might have decided that the injury risk wasn't worth it, right??

Dallas--they're treating the Josh Richardson trade to Boston as part of this sequence of moves.

I've seen in a couple places that the QO deadline was 5pm ET today, so I think it's already passed. https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2021/8/1/22605092/knicks-dont-extend-qualifying-offer-to-frank-ntilikina-making-him-an-unrestricted-free-agent https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article253105638.html Hopefully it's like Mays' QO and we extended it but no one in the media cared enough to check before the deadline passed.

I think that's technically accurate, but in reality, I think a QO is an offer of a true NBA contract. So if no other teams offers him a better deal, I would assume that Mays would simply accept the Hawks' QO. I don't think there would be any reason he would end up with anything other than a real NBA contract after this. UPDATE: Nevermind, see @JayBirdHawk's post below. NOW I'm starting to think no news means no offer here. Hope I'm wrong. Because I think some other team is going to take note of him and try to sign him away.

If I'm not mistaken, today is the deadline for the Hawks to extend qualifying offers to Mays and Knight (in addition to Goodwin, who didn't get one). Is that right? If so, any word on that? I'd say that this is a situation where no news probably means no offer and that we're rolling the dice that no one will try to sign them to anything other than a two-way. But since news of the Goody non-offer made it out, I'm not sure...

The impact of a bad salary that "only" eats up ~20% of your salary cap isn't that extreme--the Magic were legit threats to win it all in 2009 and 2010 while paying Rashard Lewis more than a third of the cap when his true value was at best half that. It just makes it essential to find a way to squeeze value out of players on rookie scale contracts (e.g., JJ Redick) and the right role players (e.g., Matt Barnes). I think Schlenk has proven he can do that. But my hope is that the Hawks find a way to frontload Collins' deal so that the heftiest parts hit this coming season and next, before Trae and 'Dre's deals kick in. By the time his contract is up in 2025, the cap will probably be $120M-125M. If we can "only" pay him, say, $22M in the last year of his contract, that's not gonna sink us even if he goes the way of Chandler Parsons.

Aight, my favorite move in his repertoire. That better?

I think that's right--but they are non-Bird FAs, so we would have to have cap space. What I don't know is this: if Team X signs one of them to an offer sheet using cap space, are we allowed to match using our MLE or BAE? I think that's the situation we'll find ourselves in, because I think JC's contract or matched offer sheet will be signed before any other team tries to nab Mays or Knight.

It's like FMK, hoops style. I don't see how it's "easy" to say which one we would let loose if forced to choose. I feel like the 3-game stretch Cam had in the ECF skewed everyone's valuation. I have to keep reminding myself that he's ALWAYS been capable of brilliance. Consistency is the issue, and it's a big one. I agree that Huerter has the lowest ceiling, but he also has the safest floor now that he's proven himself a capable defender. I don't think it's even easy to say Hunter is one of the 2 keepers until we see if his knee can make it through a full season while maintaining his January production. And Jalen Johnson is more likely to cut into Dre's minutes than anyone else's if he pans out, although I do think they all will ultimately draw from the same pool of minutes given the fluid positions of today's game. If someone put a gun to my head, I'd probably keep Dre and Cam too, partly because of the timing of K'Von's contract extension. But it's a really tough call, because I think there's a good chance Huerter will prove the best among the three at two of the three key wing skill sets (dribble, pass, shoot) that Schlenk values, and because I think his offensive game complements Trae's so well.

Clearly I'm missing a joke here.

He has one of the best Smitty moves the game has seen since #8 hung 'em up. See 0:41, 1:03, 1:23 (x2), and 1:37:

Pfft. As if. The Dead Sea Scrolls were left by the Essenes and King Tut was murdered by Ay. Bagley's NBA career is true Unsolved Mysteries territory.

We lawyers need our terms well-defined Seriously, though, the term "backup PG" is not one that is really easy to define. Is he the backup if, technically, he's the #2 PG on the depth chart, but in practice, he never plays because our second-unit PG duties actually end up being split between Bogi and Huerter? I don't want to lose a bet where a guy is technically our "backup PG" but spends most nights getting DNPs, so I say no. Likewise, I don't consider him our backup if injuries hit and we're forced to play him for that reason alone. Anyway, that's why I laid out the terms. #lawyersgonnalawyer

I stated my terms for that bet--take 'em or leave 'em

Right. I won't take a bet where I could lose by Coop winning the #3 PG slot and then playing #2 minutes due to injuries. The bet I'd take is: He plays an average of at least 18 minutes per game over a stretch of 12 consecutive games (that's 3 mpg fewer than Lou's average as a Hawk last season) Whatever number of minutes he plays during that 12 consecutive game stretch, that total # of minutes is more than any other non-Trae PG on the roster (i.e., more than Dunn, more than Mays, and more than Lou/whatever free agent PG we sign) During that 12 consecutive game stretch, there was no injury to Trae and no injury to whoever was our #2 PG on our roster before the injury I'll make an avatar bet on those terms. And I'll honestly be quite happy if I lose

To me, "#2" means he actually is #2 PG on the depth chart, not that he plays #2 PG minutes due to injuries. If we were in development mode, I could see the other things being a concern. But unless Trae gets hurt and we end up tanking the season, I don't see Nate giving our rookie second rounder the first crack at serious minutes behind Trae.

I don't know what an avatar bet is, but I'll take it. If you're saying Cooper will be our #2 before the season is up...no way that's happening.

I didn't see that quote--got a link?

Maybe I'm wrong about his shot. Starting at 1:18...dang. Hopefully that translates to game action. Guess we'll find out in Summer League. Fair point--but our expectations this next year are significantly higher than they were last year, which is why Goody won't be coming back as our 3rd PG. As others have said, LouWill--our 2nd PG last year--might end up as our #3 this year. And that's my point. If Sharife can't contribute yet, then spending a full-on roster spot is risky if we have title-run aspirations. But hopefully his jumper is more serviceable, in which case, sign the man.

I'm not up on the rules for G-League for players under contract. Am I correct that: If we have him under a Bruno-like regular NBA contract, that counts toward the 15-player max for the active roster, meaning that's one less slot to use on a vet free agent? But that's not the case if we sign him to a two-way? We get Bird (or early Bird) rights if we sign him to a regular contract, but not if we sign-him to a two-way? If we sign him to a regular NBA contract, we still can send him to College Park full-time without restriction (again, aside from the fact that he counts against our active roster)? Because here's the thing...fun as he is to watch, Sharife Cooper will almost certainly need at least a full year in College Park before he's playable in anything but garbage time in the NBA. Point guards who are 6'0 in shoes and can't shoot or defend are just not playable in the NBA anymore. If he's playing any remotely meaningful minutes, we're in trouble. I like the idea of locking him down for a couple years and getting Bird rights. We just gotta be prepared for the possibility that that reduces our flexibility to get a playable vet to be our #3 PG. Although if we go my preferred route of having Bogi serve as the de facto #2 PG, problem solved

He's not overrated. Big men who can create their own shot, distribute, stretch the floor, and rebound at an elite level are rare. His defense is also better than most people give him credit for. I've never understood why some people hate on Sabonis.

Indy is up to something