SalvorMallow

1 minute ago, terrell said:

When Defenses tighten up we STINK

THats why I say theyre meaningless.

I see what you saying though.. lol

No, when defenses sell everything else out to stop Trae, we stink. We need more weapons.

28 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Name                                             2022 +/-                                        2023+/-

Jalen Johnson                                +.2                                                  -.2.7

 

So which year shows outstanding advanced metrics again?

+/- isn't really considered an advanced stat.

Look at the advanced stats of 12 vs JJ this season. JJ is beating him significantly in almost every stat

On 1/5/2024 at 7:35 AM, kg01 said:

No but I'm not surprised.  Lemme guess, Scal said Derrick White deserved some asg love?

I kinda tuned out a few weeks ago when I heard the afternoon guy say Trae couldn't start for some teams.

Like, I don't expect them to be fans, especially as we're losing.  But the thin-slicing of Trae, amidst the forgiving of other players' flaws, becomes disingenuous.  I mean, most of them still believe in Fade Losingham as a star.  Dude literally led a team to the longest losing streak in history.  And they "still believe"?  How?  Why?

Its the fandom of guys paraded as 'analysis' that bothers me.  Like, this guy was nice to me so I'll never criticize him.  Or, this guy didn't kiss my a**, so I'll never support him.  Smh, sorry for the rant folks. 

I know exactly what you mean. Someone I know used to love a Hawks player but then he tried to get an autograph from them and got rejected and he hates on them every chance he gets since then. He comes up with ludicrous trade proposals for the player and I just roll my eyes.

52 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Keep an eye on Golden State:

 

@Spud2nique after reading this

3 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

With Embiid being out tomorrow night, it becomes the Tyrese Maxey show, co-starring Tobias Harris.

Watch Paul Reid though.  He does have some offensive talent, and might squeeze out a double double.

Reid gonna drain 8 3s on us

37 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Lol think they got a restocking fee?

Haha this was really funny! 

57 minutes ago, Diesel said:

We're not talking about it.   So I will start the conversation.   How bad is Trae's Shoulder?

Trae plays through a lot... However, if we trade DJ, does the plan become to tank and let Trae sit out and rest his shoulder and see what we look like with Bufkin, JJ, OO at the helm??

 

Reminds me of the San Antonio season when they sat David Robinson. If only there was a Tim Duncan waiting for us in the next draft

16 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Bring your best argument.   Snyder Lovers.  Nate Likers...(because nobody loved Nate). 

Here's the main point though....

Hawks record when Lloyd Pierce was fired = 14-20. 

Hawks record when they fired Nate = 29-30.

Hawks Record today = 14-21

Hawks fired nate at 29-30.  Bogi had missed the first 22 games.  We all know how big a part of the team Bogi represented.   

So what's the referendum on Coach Snyder?

Nate had:
Aaron Holiday (.053 ws/48) instead of Garrison Mathews(.036)

Justin Holiday (.009) instead of Wesley Matthews (-.004)

AJ Griffin (.075) instead of AJ Griffin (-.084)

John Collins (.095) instead of Saddiq Bey (.070)

Saddiq Bey (.119) instead of Saddiq Bey (.070)

etc...

Even guys like Jarret Culver (.014) that we thought were super rough performed better than almost anyone after our first 2 subs.

Should I go on? We took the already rough roster that Nate had to deal with, stripped down any sense of depth, and expected Quin to win more games at the very beginning of the season with a new scheme. Unrealistic expectations.

4 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

What if we just reverse the trade? Send him to San Antonio for our picks/pick swap back. Would yall be OK with that? 

4 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Random message from one source: tell your pals (they are referring to you here on the squawk) that only Trae and JJ are safe to get in terms of Hawks jerseys for now. everyone else on the roster has been made available to trade.

I did order a JJ jersey after this so....

Is any team actually interested in hunter? It seems like every deal we've tried with him we get shot down, and that was before he was injured. 

39 minutes ago, kg01 said:

He just watches the ball the whole time.

I like him but he'sjust not right for us rn.  He's like that girlfriend who's perfect for you but you're not mature enough to see it.  Then you look back after a few years and realize you dropped the ball.

Wait, where was I going with this?  

I mean if he was stroking 40% from 3 and automatic from the corners, it would go a long way towards making up for his other flaws (Thats why he had such a big positive impact last season).

Unfortunately, turns out he's a super streaky shooter and he is now having the worst shooting season of his career (34%) even though he is spoonfed wide open looks for the majority of his shots. 

14 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

 

 

Recap

 

Game 1 - JJ (lost)

Game 2- Hunter (lost)

Game 3- TEAM (won)

Game 4- DJ (won)

Game 5- Trae & DJ (won)

Game 6- Trae & JJ (won)

Game 7- Bey (lost)

Game 8- Trae/ DJ/ JJ (won)

Game 9- Trae (lost)

Game 10- DJ (won)

Game 11-  Bey & Bogi (lost)

Game 12- JJ (lost)

Game 13- Trae (lost)

Game 14- Trae (won)

Game 15- Trae (won) (Trae +40)

Game 16- Bogi (lost) 

Game 17- Hunter (lost)

Game 18- Trae (won)

Game 19- Trae (lost)

Game 20- Trae (lost)

Game 21- Bogi (lost)

Game 22- Bogi (lost)

Game 23- Trae (lost)

Game 24- Trae (won)

Game 25- Trae (lost)

Game 26- Trae (won)

Game 27- Trae (won)

Game 28- DJ (lost)

Game 29- Trae (lost)

Game 30- Bogi (lost)

Game 31- JJ (lost)

Game 32- Trae/DJ/JJ (won)

Game 33- JJ (won)

Game 34- DJ (lost)

Game 35- DJ, Trae, OO or Bogi? Or combo of those? @JayBirdHawk @macdaddy @AHF @SalvorMallow @kg01  

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Phew thats a tough one man. I'd say OO and Bogi because when they were on the floor (with Trae) that was the only time we looked like we were controlling the game.

13 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Bruno isn't the answer .... but could he be an answer for a couple possessions?  Dunno but we're not good enough to not even ask the question. 

Bruno being our "silver bullet" is a perfect example the sad state of affairs in our front court. He's a 3rd stringer drafted in the second round who couldn't even get minutes on a tanking Rockets team. The dude is averaging 3PPG and 3 RPG for his 5 year career.

7 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Who is this? I gotta know before I click  

I had never seen this one before, but actually its really good and entertaining. You should give it a watch. People are furious with Quin. I would swear one of the cats they talked to was @TheNorthCydeRises he was going on and on about the "big" lineup.

32 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

The games we lost with Dre were teams that were flat out better than us in the last 9 of Dre. We beat the teams we were suppose to beat. We can only beat right now if we out shoot them. Good luck with that strategy. Have fun making excuses for these clowns.

Fair enough, you're right, that was a tough stretch, not apples to apples.

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

BKN is floundering, folx.  We gotta be able to pick that carcass.

They're ahead of us, which says a lot, but they're falling fast. 

*Sigh...

16 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Dre salary isn't even taking up much of the cap. You got many teams with dead weight making as much as Dre and it doesn't seem to effect their team. Why can ya'll just admit you are wrong

("We can't win without Hunter") + (Hunter misses ~1/3rd of his games every season since his rookie year) = Hunter is responsible for many losses per year due to his unavailability

Does this math make sense to you @NBASupes?

14 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Always out? Hating post. 

You mean, this season:

Because it shows what I told you was going to happen is happening. 

You should listen to me and stop thinking I am leading you astray 

He has missed ~32% of the regular season games in his career, and ~45% of the playoff games. I consider that to be "always out"....basically the same amount as Kawhi. 

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

The games we lost with Dre were teams that were flat out better than us in the last 9 of Dre. We beat the teams we were suppose to beat. We can only beat right now if we out shoot them. Good luck with that strategy. Have fun making excuses for these clowns.

Why are you bragging about us losing when Hunter is out when he's ALWAYS out? It's not like theres anything we can do about that. He's been out for ~1/3rd of the season so far. That is typical for him at this point.

14 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Dre haters consortium, what's the Hawks record without Dre this season?

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=atlanta+hawks+record+without+de'andre+hunter+2023-2024

3-8 without Deandre Hunter this season.

3-6 in the last 9 games Deandre Hunter played this season.

I guess it's better but not the monumental difference you are making it out to be. We have been on a downslide in general.

8 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Our defense in tonight's game deserve credit. We just blew too many free throws. 

Agreed here. We missed free throws and bricked 3s. Simple as that.

It's hard to win with a -8 3pm differential shooting 58% from the line.

3 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

A draft pick they’re gonna f@&k up royally no question.
 

Hawks had 2 instant impact players with size staring them in the face on draft night.  Jaime Jaquez Jr is only leading the entire NBA in fourth quarter minutes for a team 5 games over .500 and here is where Brandin Podziemski ranks in the Warriors’ on/off:

Hawks said nah give us a guard with no size who we know isn’t gonna play.  Brilliance.

I'm just praying Bufkin shocks us all....ok lemme lower my standards a bit. I just hope Bufkin even gets the opportunity to shock us all. Is that too much to ask? Please give him some minutes, we're 7 games under 500 it can't hurt. 

8 minutes ago, Diesel said:

First.. they took 3 points off of our score for no reason...  Then Siddiq hit a three and it was a three.. and they only gave us 2.

We were cheated and I have the proof!!

 

Then Siddiq hits a 3 point shot!!!

The score should have been 69 - 62.....  but it was left at 65-62 after they checked to see if it was a three.

 

I'm sure they have score keepers in the league office as well. Something this blatant wouldn't go undetected. My guess is they accidentally added extra points at some point.