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Quote: Quote: To whomever said this isn't Woodson's fault... really please clue me on how it is [censored] possible to let a team come back and likely win a game in which you held them to 5 points in a whole quarter? This type of [censored] happens all the time with Woodson no matter who the players are. We saw this [censored] with Al and Anotine and we have seen it with Joe and Co. Woody has no clue and it shows when this type of [censored] happens so frequently. Does Mike Woodson miss layups from point blank? Does Mike Woodson pass the ball to the invisible Hawk on the sideline? Does Mike Woodson leave his man wide open for a 3? As much as I dislike Woody, you can't blame him for games like this, especially when they turn the ball over 20+ times a game. That being said, if they play their cards right, the Hawks might actually have a chance at winning this. I doubt they will, but they've got a punchers chance. no, but isn't the head coach supposed to install a scheme and coach his players so they don't throw passes to invisible players and give guys wide open looks?

oh well, at least the squawk looks sweet now.

Marvin is awesome at shooting bricks.

I worried that Pop is going to make some adjustments at the half and then we'll see two quarters of "the Mike Woodson face" as he is clueless to respond and the Spurs win going away. Prove me wrong, Woody!

Quote: no way hedo is as much better than marvin as jj is better than evans and bibby is def > not => to jameer and dwight isn't 2x better than horford than jj is better than evans also, who do they have on bench to match up to chill/acie/zaza? we have won against them since they got dwight for some reason, even tho our team wasn't as good in the past as it is now good points, but i really like hedo over marvin. he's averaging 20 and 6 and he can hit the three, unlike our small forward. but, the funny part was the one i bolded, the one comparing the two head coaches.

This is a recap comparing our two squads after the Bibby trade from a Magic fan on the realgm boards. Unfortunately, I think it's pretty much true. Quote: on paper... besides, it's more like this: Dwight>>>>Horford Rashard= Hedo>>Williams Evans Nelson= more importantly: SVG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Woodson

Quote: Quote: If Smoove gets moved to the 3, what would happen is so predictable that even Woody could figure it out. The defender would lay off Smoove, taking away his driving lane, and force him to shoot or pass. Smoove, being Smoove, would shoot more often than not. And he would miss more often than not. I think you have assumed too much and too little at the same time. First off, it's important what 5 we bring in... I would say. IF we traded Marvin for Okur for instance. Okur has range. With Okur, JJ, and Bibby on the floor, the defenders can't play off Smoove because the floor would be wide open for his drives. Moreover, Bibby is a real PG. Not patchwork like we have been having. More than likely, our game will be uptempo. In an uptempo game, it doesn't matter which F position Smoove plays as long as he finishes. ALso, Bibby is a drive and score or drive and dish PG. We've seen the value of this type of PG with Law except Law doesn't score well nor does he have Woods trust. Now, there's no more Lue... It's too much to assume that Smoove goes to three and guys just play off of him. We have too much going on elsewhere for that. Marvin for Okur? One can dream...

(sarcasm) Matt Caroll? Yipee! Here's a season ticket deposit, ASG! (/sarcasm) I think the money spent on a player like Matt Carroll would be better spent paying Mike Woodson not to coach.

Oh well, aside from appearing on the radio every once in a while, it didn't seem like Bernie Mullen really added much. It's up to Billy Knight and Don Waddell to improve their respective products on the floor/ice.

best game thread ever!

Quote: Quote: I always liked Snapper Jones, mainly because he would make a fool out of Bill Walton. Jones and Walton were hilarious together. Snapper and Walton would argue like crazy. Snapper would call Walton out on EVERY ridiculous comment he ever made. I have not seen "Snapper" on a nationally televised game in few years. Doesn't he call games exclusively for the Blazers or Sonics now ? I think Snapper does NBA TV games. I've seen him call a couple of games. He's pretty boring without Walton to go back and forth with.

I'm there tonight. Traffic will be light because a lot of people are still on vacation. Plus, there is little shopping in downtown, so there is no shopping crowd to worry about there.

Quote: i love the team loyalty man. but trust me, if horford keeps playing this CONSISTENTLY all year, he'll get ROY for sure. another thing is that if the Hawks keep winning they will be a "Surprise Team", not to us of course, but teams like that always get strong award consideration at the end of the year. hell, we could be talkin joe for mvp possibly, but i'm getting waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy ahead of myself, impossible not to do at a great time like this. i remember being upset when we drafted/traded tinsley but until this year it hasnt been too much to regret, from what i hear he's playing his best basketball right now. hope we can shut him down Nobody said that Horford doesn't deserve it or that he's garbage. I just don't think Horford can overcome the Durant hype machine (not commenting on whether or not he deserves the hype, but there is a lot of hype). ROY is sort of a popularity contest, so I think Durant will win it easily. I hope I'm wrong.

I think Durant has it locked up unless he misses MAJOR time due to injury or something. He has the preseason hype, plus he'll be a 20+ PPG guy before the season is over.

Quote: In his ESPN Chat Jeff (ATL, GA): The Hawks are improving. What do you think we need more: another shooter, PG, or 5? Honestly, Horford and Josh Smith are decent in the middle so I'm not inclined to say we need a center right now. What's your take? SportsNation John Hollinger: (3:42 PM ET ) Point guard, hands down. Hawks now have a solid (not great, but solid) big rotation with Horford and Zaza, plus Shelden as the No. 3 center and a ton of guys who can play the 4. But they're scrambling at the point. AJ had a nice game last night but he's nursing a hammy and the other four guys are already injured. Beno Udrih is looking pretty good about now. I don't have insider, but opened the chat as it was (is) going on. I'd love to add Udrih. Trade Childress maybe? He loves California anyway He may love California, but Sacramento is a completely different story. It sucks there.

Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Ex, how much did you get the tickets for? I am thinking of going, but trying to decide if Ebay is the better route. After their commission and handling fee i paid $171 apiece for them. I am not sure exactly what the face value is but i am sure it is at least $225, more likely $275. There were a lot to choose from and the pickup spot is just two blocks from the Verizon Center. Dayum. You could buy some season tickets in Atl with that. I mean packages. Not that close to the floor. Stubhub is basically a place where scalpers can sell tickets legally. You should check it out. For the most part it's actually legal for anyone to scalp tickets except within a few thousand feet of the arena entrance. It's legal to begin with, with or without Stubhub. For Hawks tickets I also like craigslist. You can get some good last minute deals there.

Quote: I'm willing to bet that before the day is out, someone will say that "orlando really just isn't as good as their record suggests". if that was the true orlando magic, then that would be correct. they did not look impressive at all. we had lo-wright play 27 minutes, horford grab 1 rebound, and our top 3 shot less than 40%. but, it's great to see a win over a playoff team on the road when we didn't even play that well. that's what good teams do. we basically went hack a shaq on howard and it worked well. he was 6-14 from the line. good win.

Quote: I pretty much agree with you - don't think this guy will ever be a superstar. I think he has a chance to be an All-star while averaging 20 and 13 or so at best. 20 and 13 is a hall of famer. even hakeem didn't do that for his career.

The team still falls into fits of "let's watch Joe go one on one and fire up a 20 foot fadeaway jumper." I hate that.

Any such trade (and it would still never happen) would have to start with Joe + Smoove/Marvin. Obviously Kobe is an upgrade over JJ, but are the Hawks better without Smoove or Marvin? I simply don't know. The franchise would certainly sell more tickets, but I don't think it's the title contender that Kobe wants.

Quote: Yep i don't think Horford has a shot. If AL gets 20 attemts on nightly basis than he would easily be ROY. The best i think Al can be this season is something like this: 15ppg 9.5reb 2.5apg 1.5bpg on high fg%. I would take these numbers over Durant's 20 and 5 on a sub 40fg% any day. They will give it to Durant anyways because he is more "exciting" to watch. those are better than marion's numbers last year. if horford manages those stats i would be beyond happy, but i doubt he will be THAT good in his rookie year. i'd love to be surprised, though. edit: maybe not better, but probably about the same.

Preliminary schedule for HD telecasts is out here: http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7299604_37_1.pdf hopefully Comcast televises them for us.

I'll be there, section 118! Everyone get there early and represent!

damn Kobe is really sticking it to the Lakers. He demands to be traded, but he has the no-trade clause so he's also dictating which players he can and cannot be traded for.

It's not INHD's or Mojo's decision whether our games are on channel 876 locally. It's up to Comcast's local people. Comcast just put the HD games there last year because there was nowhere else to put them, so they used the least watched HD channel rather than create a new channel. They are still doing that right now with some Saturday Fox Sports Network football that are on in HD this fall. There was some pac-10 or big-12 game on 876 in HD this past Saturday that pre-empted INHD programming. And, the games last year were televised on 876 even AFTER the two INHD channels merged into one so I would imagine that they will do the same going forward, if the games are available in HD. It is up to FSN South whether to go through the extra expense of producing HD games and make them available to Comcast.