Blunt91 Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 I didn't see the game against the Cavaliers friday night but from what you all are saying is we played very sloppy and had alot of turnovers. Its' funny that we had very few turnovers in the win over the sixers when Wilks played major minutes then when JT comes back to run the point we play sloppy. It is obvious that we need a capable point guard to compete on a high level. I don't think Wilks is a starter in the league on a regular basis but he has the game to be a very good backup. He is kind of like Jacque Vaghn but doesn't provide the clutch shooting.Our offense flowed so much beter in that game and WIlks got everyone involved.It is also clear that if we had of solved the Point situation and had a true scorer/shooter at the 2guard to begin the season we would be in the playoff hunt.Kruger would probably still be here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 2, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Denberg said that Wilkes will be brought back after the trade deadline IF he isn't picked up by someone else first. judging by the way he played, he could very well end up with another team. But like I said, it's the same old story. It's what we've been needing from day one. We either need a hybrid SG/PG in a SG's body. Or we need to move JT for a real PG. If JT were 6'5", mike wilkes would be perfect for us at the PG. WE wouldn't need a star quality scoring PG. But JT is small, so wilkes isn't going to be our answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 We need somebody better than Wilks.He's a nobody and he will never accomplish anything in the NBA.We really need someone more quilified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Once thing I've noticed about JT is that he is finishing better on the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 2, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 why don't you take the time to actually explain what you mean. I never said that Wilkes was the answer to our problem. If we had a SG with ability of JT and the SIZE of a real SG, Wilkes would be fine. Because he plays good defense and can distribute the ball. That's all we would need in that situation. I find it odd that someone who has stated that "he doesn't even watch the games anymore" thinks he's even remotely qualified (not quilified) to comment on how good Wilkes is or is not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 If we had a SG with ability of JT and the SIZE of a real SG, Wilkes would be fine. Because he plays good defense and can distribute the ball." Distribute the ball?He and his 3APG? Wilks isn't a starting caliber player on any team.He's a CBA bum.He's a IR player.He will hustle enough to try and earn a contract like Ira did(Ira sucks on defense this year)but then he will be the bum the Bucks didn't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 You can keep his 35%fg 2.8APG 5PPG but I'll take a NBA caliber player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 You know what I'm talking about.You get all giddy over CBA scrubs.Ira's a great player!Wilks is a good player!If these guys were not playing for the Hawks (Nobody loves scrub players more than the Hawks) they wouldn't be in the league period. Wilks is a bum.No other team wants him for anything other than a 12th man.Your just so stupid that you fall in love for every player that hustles for a contract. You don't know [censored] about the game of basketball. The only thing I've seen from you is a little sissy boy.Your nothing but a wimp. So Wilks is more passive on his shot and moves the ball around better.But if I had his shot I wouldn't shoot either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 You lack the stuff to even come close to insulting me. " It's not hard to insult a goofy looking person like you. Just like you were all over Ira's di(k last year.Wilks would hustle til he got a contract...You obviousally can't tell talent from a scrambling scrub looking for a good contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Did you get that one from your remedial english class in one of those safe Dallas schools?" Atleast there isn't all the theifs out here.It's a hellva lot better than downtown Atlanta I can tell you that now.As if the people in downtown are respectable people.All they look to do is look mug you. I'm not even going to bother discussing ball with you now. You've proven over and over that you don't have the ability to do it." You are the one that doesn't have the ability.You think all the CBA'ers of the league are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 You have yet to even explain your problem.All I was doing is commenting not even directly at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 2, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 lets put all that behind us, it was all in good fun. If I went too far, i'm sorry, seriously. Nothing personal. My point is, you say that mike wilkes has no talent and will never be anything. My point was that there are LOTS of players in the league that a few years ago werein the exact same position that he is in. Wilkes has proven that he can run an offense and do so without turning the ball over. I mean watch the game, the Bob and Stinger commented on it ALL THE TIME. He's a solid young player who has shown he has potential. IF, and I say IF, we had a SG that could defend his position AND score(which JT cannot do), wilkes would be plenty effective for our needs. Just like guys like Eric Snow, Travis Best and Charlie Ward do/did. He doesn't have to be a star. We would have other players to handle that. We need someone steady, who can handle the ball, get it to guys in the right spots and not turn it over. WIlkes has proven that he can do that. Instead of even acknowledging this. Something that has been proven by the stats and by people who are close to the game, with a history in it and more knowledge in it than yyou and I. You just say he's a "scrub". You don't give any insight into why this is or any reasoning behind it. You just call him a scrub. Even though it's contrary to the stats and what some othe professionals seem to think. To give you another example. Against the spurs a few games ago. They were commenting on how wilkes was able to throw shareef a lead pass in the post and how neither JT nor Dickau can consistantly do that correctly. That shows the guy has skills. You then go on to throw up his "3apg" as reasoning behind this. Though you fail to even mention that he was only averaging like 12 minutes per game and wasn't even giving up one turnover per game. 3 assists to LESS THAN ONE turnover per game is pretty damned solid. So again, I'll say it. In the right situation, wilkes would be fine for us because he can do what we would need. Pass the ball, get it to guys at the right time and not turn it over. If you disagree, fine, disagree. But at least show the knowledge to explain your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Well ass Charles Barkley said"All these guys have talent" but I think people just get to carried away with backups at best. He has no shot what so ever...His passing isn't great he just moves the ball around better than the two guys we have.that doesn't make him a good player. He averages 2.8APG in 25MPG His defense is the only thing really decent about him and considering he wants a contract it's a tough sell to me that he will actually keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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