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Didn't even know about that one. For me it was what if the courts hadn't stripped us of Dr. J in 1973, ordering him back to the ABA Nets to fulfill his contract? Him and Pete together for a full season would have been awesome to see. Always gauled me to see later that all the favored teams got whomever they wanted from the ABA teams that came in. The Hawks of course got squat. NBA commish has always ensured the rich get richer.

I guess the other question than how we fans feel about Ferry as GM, is how do you think star players are looking at us now. Before Ferry, it was doubtful any big name star would even look our way, figuring Joe had already gobbled up all the overpayment fund and that we were inept and wouldn't be winning a championship or even playing for one anytime soon. Dwight has expressed his disdain for the Hawks org in the past. Wonder if Ferry has improved that image at all in the league.

For me it is more a feel that he knows what he is doing when negotiating with other teams. No more, "I'll give you this big shiny nickel for those two little dingy dimes" deals. <grin>

I'm happy. I saw the quote where he can't wait to watch some of LD's practices. I don't know that Sund ever attended a practice.

I'm happy. Definitely an upgrade plus if Sund does have any advice left to give, still on as an adviser.

MSNBC.com's second mock draft agrees.23. Atlanta Hawks – Fab Melo C SyracuseGiven the fact that Al Horford is really a power forward and that Zaza Pachulia could be starting at center next season, the Hawks have a glaring need. Melo should be a solid source of rebounds and blocks, and clearly fills a need.

Only way this would happen is like what they do in MLB sometimes. We would have to pay 50% or more of JJ's salary for them to accept the trade and that 50% would count against our salary cap.

Has us taking Jeff Teague's little brother from Kentucky in the first round. 23. Atlanta Hawks - Marquis Teague - 6-2, 190, PG, Kentucky Any thoughts? I haven't seen him play.

IMHO, the only reason Josh says that is the local media and a small but vocal section of fandom constantly are saying he is the problem, he is uncoachable, he is the problem. His feelings get hurt. So when you run him out of town and the next "one" come in and you start the same trash talk, that person will say, I want out of this town. The problem isn't Josh.

With all the trash talk of Josh in the forum, makes me wonder if I would have read the same junk back in the 70s about Pete Maravich and in the 80s about Dominque. You want to hand Josh to the Lakers for Gasol who will stay a year or two like Danny Manning and/or Isaiah Rider and when we have nothing to showf or Gasol or Josh 3 years from now, will be shaking your head saying how did we get so bad so fast.Not a path I want to go down. Keep Josh. The man had an outstanding season IMHO.

And now after running coach and GM out for Howard, they decide they are shopping Howard? Did they just realize no decent coach or GM would take those positions now? Good for us, Orlando is self destructing.

Trading for Gasol would be trying to erase an old old mistake. We drafted this guy then immediately traded him for HomeTown Hero Raschad? Can't remember his name, played at my old highschool, Wheeler and at California for a year. Good player but couldn't carry the sorry Hawks at the time on his shoulder. Now a decade or more later we want to give away a ton to get Gasol back? That's a BS trade. I wouldn't trade Josh for less than a #1 this year and #2 next year.

I agree, they'll stick with LD. They would have to pay someone else real money.This is so typical of the Hawks thru the years. Sad to say. Lose a heartbreaker and then quit the next game. You didn't see the Celtics quit when Rondo got suspended. That's why they're consistent playoff winners and we only hope to be.

Barkless and Smith seem to both have a personal grudge against the Hawks. Always ridicule them. Hopefully this will be a longggg playoff season for them putting up with us winning. Great win tonight!

The example I always think of is Dominque Wilkins leaving UGA a year early for the NBA. Next year the four remaining non-superstars but excellent teamwork guys, get to the final four for the first and only time in UGA history.

Hmmmm..Hawks are 10=0 when Josh scores at least 20. You guys sure you want him to shoot less?

I loved Drew when he came into the league. His rookie year he played his heart out. Defense, rebounding, steals and points . I still remember him blocking the great Rick Barry's shot 5 times in one game and Rick finally just giving up on shooting and passing when he got the ball. Rick never passed <grin>. But then in his second season it seemed that Drew learned the lesson that he could score a lot more if he didn't play defense and became a horrible defender. He elevated his offense from about 19 pts to 26, but would give up 30 plus as his man just drove around him. If he had remained the player he was his rookie year he could have been up there with the greats like Walt Frazier. Complete players.

If LD can keep this bunch playing hard the whole game and winning despite Horford being out, he'll price himself out of what the Spirit will pay dangit. <grin> Great win Hawks and LD!

TMac definitely is NOT washed up. Great pickup.

I used to really want to see Dwight on the Hawks, but I'd never trade Horford for him now. After watching the last couple of years, Dwight plays when he feels like it, backs down when hit hard. Horford at least always gives his A game. And we'd have another Joe Johnson type contract with a declining player sucking up all our available funds.

40 wins would be a good goal for this team, but I'm feeling more like 36 is an accurate prediction.

So the ASG looks like big winners if the season goes down. They save the 20-30 million they claim they lose every year. <grin>

I'm glad the ASG isn't in control any more. I never could bring myself to totally trash or hate them as I think they came in at a low point, when it would have been easy to lose the Hawks to another city. We've recently with the Thrashers who the leagues really don't have any interest in preserving teams in Atlanta. So I'm grateful for that. But now ready to move past ownership by committee. I have high hopes for the new owner. At least it isn't a corporation like the Braves got. Someone who is a fan of the game.

From the AJC draft board: Benson initially threw his hat into the NBA draft ring last spring before backing out, and while his numbers (17.9 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.6 blocks) stayed pretty much the same, his level of exposure definitely increased. Oakland's lanky center got a chance to face Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, Tennessee and Ohio State as a senior, but perhaps his most lasting impression came in his team's first-round NCAA tournament loss to Texas. Unfortunately, it wasn't a particularly good one. Benson went 6 for 15 and had trouble finishing around the basket, yet the more alarming concern in that game - and throughout his college career - was his defense. Benson had no trouble scoring and rebounding on Summit League opponents, but his one-on-one defense - even at that level - left plenty to be desired. He got a lot of his blocks simply because of his size and length, but there's a good chance he won't be able to bang with bulkier power forwards and centers under the hoop at the next level. That being said, there's hope for Benson if he puts in the time in the weight room. He has decent range and can draw defenders away from the basket, and he runs the floor well. He's developed some post moves over the past two seasons as well, and he'll likely need them against the far better competition he'll start seeing even in summer league games. Benson has a lot of work to do if a coach is going to trust him in his rotation, but the allure of a nearly 7-foot frame should get a team to bite somewhere in the early-to-mid portion of the second round.