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He never lift before that. Noel just started lifted this year.

I love Kelly but he's best in a system where he has someone play center on defense while he can play it on offense like Detroit used to do with Sheed-Big Ben. Hopefully that PF can't protect the rim as well.

Ya'll treating Noel like he's a straight up scrub.

He is 18 years old. Why are some assuming I am talking about what he will be tomorrow when I mentioned Deke? I seen Ratliff in Atlanta and Philly in his prime. If Noel best is Ratliff, he wouldn't be drafted in the top 10 of any draft ever. He would be seen as a clear bust.

Noah is being VASTLY underrated on here. As I said, I am not even a big fan of the kid but I recognize he should be the top pick in this draft.

I don't think that team is all that great and once Cousins is a FA, he will want max money. This looks like the Joe Johnson era Hawks team in terms of peak. Also, you think Sac will trade Cousins?

They don't. You can't do SnT till Free agency starts.

Saying he is Theo Ratliff and potential being Theo Ratliff is two completely different things. No one would draft Victor Oladipo or Trey Burke in the lottery if their potential was what they are now.

Dwight was 225 at 17. I have AJC article in Atlanta that has that info and I remember asking him that back then when we played AAU ball. Dwight is 265-270 not 240.

It isn't much of a reach if we are talking potential. We aren't talking about what he is the minute he plays in the NBA. Sometimes you guys try too hard to be right when there was nothing wrong with what I said.

I still think the best PF is Tim Duncan. Everyone else like Horf, LMA, Love, Griffin, and Z-Bo are interchangable.

You guys are greatly underrating Noel. I am not even a fan of the kid but his metrics would made him the #2 best prospect in last year's draft.

I don't even see Love as a superstar. We can only get a superstar via the draft if CP3/D12 aren't coming to Atlanta.

Noel is far more talented than Theo. Noel is close to Deke potential wise.

Noel or Olidipo or Burke. I'll still take Vic.

If there is a coaching staff who can do that. That's the greatest coaching staff in the NBA. Maybe they can make Marvin play like James Worthy.

He has improved greatly since then. He went from someone who couldn't make two decent passes in a row to someone who can play PG and not be a total liability which he was out of the draft. The problem is simple. While he has improved greatly, has he gotten good at PG? No, his PG skills are terrible but at least can play the position without being a liability. Assists are a blanket stat. It doesn't make someone a great passer or not. See others like Jeff in terms of PG skills like Rose and Westbrook. Their assists totals are in the elite of the NBA. Does that mean they are great passer. No, in fact they are some of the worst. Our offense is extremely PG friendly. Offenses like Memphis are the offenses that aren't PG friendly.

Situational Statistics: This Year's Shooting Guard Crop •Jeff Teague's virtues as a volume shot-creator are incredibly obvious from his situational statistics. Amongst the group we examined, Teague had a very high usage rate, but was only slight above average in terms of efficiency at .95 PPP. From a broad perspective, that’s a pretty good characterization of his mentality as a scorer, but is doesn’t do justice to how unique he is on the offensive end. Teague is exceptionally good at getting to the rim, posting an average of 7.8 finishing attempts per game (3rd best), which is quite impressive. Considering his size, it isn’t a big surprise that he sits only slight above average at 1.12 PPP on those attempts. Moving forward, Teague may be able to seamlessly account for his lack of efficiency at the rim with his tremendous pull up jumper. He took 5.3 jumpers off the dribble per game last season, and posted .94 PPP, well above the average of .81 PPP. Unfortunately, his merit off the dribble doesn’t translate to catch and shoot situations, as he ranks below average at 1.12 PPP on unguarded spot up jumpers, which wasn’t a huge issue for him at Wake Forest since he only took 1.2 catch and shoot jumpers per game overall. He ranks last in Pos/G in that category, and he will have to improve his ability to use those situations on the next level considering his size. Teague is very unique in this aspect, as you don’t see many players who shoot such a large percentage of their jumpers off the dribble. Teague more than compensates for his limitations with his excellent shot creating ability. He gets out in transition more than any player in the draft at 6.1 Pos/G, and while his 1.01 PPP is a strong indication of his shaky decision-making skills, his speed makes him a great threat to get to the line. The same holds true when you consider how well he scores when he puts the ball on the floor. Few players in this draft are as quick and instinctive off the dribble. Teague’s FG percentage of 51.3% when he drives right is extremely impressive, and his 39.4% going left is above average too. Not only do those drives result in made baskets, but Teague gets fouled on 16.6% of his possessions, easily the most amongst twos. Teague is an excellent scorer with the ball in his hands, but doesn’t look great on the pick and roll or shooting off of screens, two things he may have to work on when taller and quicker defenders take away some of his driving lanes. He’s not a terribly efficient or fundamentally sound player overall, but with the direction the NBA is heading in, Teague is going to be extremely difficult to defend without fouling on the perimeter (thinkAaron BrooksorLouis Williams), which makes him a coveted option in this draft, particularly for teams who lack that type of scoring punch off the bench. From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2XLa5kHAK http://www.draftexpress.com It’s been quite a rollercoaster ride forJeff Teaguesince his last write-up nearly three months ago. After wins versus North Carolina and at Boston College and Clemson, complete with huge scoring barrages from his end, there was plenty of talk that Teaguemight run away with ACC player of the year honors, and find himself as a top-5 draft pick. Things haven’t quite worked out that way, though, as he hasn’t managed to be anywhere near as productive since moving off the ball almost full time once undersized point guard Ish Smith fully recovered from his injury, which happened to correspond with Wake Forest losing 7 of their last 15 games, and flaming out of the NCAA tournament in the first round in blowout fashion to #13 seed Cleveland State. Teague fully exposed all of his weaknesses over that stretch, but also continued to show the same tantalizing scoring potential that got so many NBA teams excited to begin with. Teague is still the same phenomenal athlete he was when we last wrote about him, showing an amazing first step and a real knack for creating his own shot going equally well left or right. He gets to the free throw line at an excellent rate, and shoots 44% from beyond the 3-point line, which is a pretty impressive combination. Generally speaking, you won’t find many more talented scorers anywhere in college basketball, even if he still has plenty to work on. Teague’s shooting ability is very unorthodox, as 77% of his jump-shots come on off the dribble attempts, according to Synergy Sports Technology. Despite his strong percentages, it must be noted that he only attempted around three 3-point shots per game, which leaves a lot to be desired. What’s odd is that he seems to struggle quite a bit in pure catch and shoot opportunities, as he cocks the ball below his waist as sports plenty of wasted shooting motion, which in turn slows down his release. When shooting off the dribble, though, Teague’s shot looks very fluid and compact, and he actually converts at a similar rate. This is clearly something teams will want to look more closely at in private workouts, should Teague decide to enter the draft. Playing off the ball for most of the second half of the season didn’t seem to suit Teague’s style of play very well, as he’s clearly the type of player who needs the ball in his hands in order to be successful, as you can begin to understand by the way he his shooting mechanics developed. Teague is a clear-cut feast or famine type player, who tends to be either absolutely spectacular or completely awful on any given possession, and very rarely anywhere in between. As advanced a scorer as he is, he shows incredibly poor decision making skills at times, giving up his dribble mid-way through a possession, jumping in the air aimlessly before deciding what to do next, forcing terrible shots early in the shot-clock, and trying to squeeze incredibly difficult passes in between multiple defenders. Teague is far too careless with the ball, which makes him extremely turnover prone, as he coughs up the ball on 1/5th of his possessions. As he gains more experience (he is after all, a late-bloomer who nearly committed to Southern Illinois in high school), Teague will likely improve on his decision making and hopefully his just-average basketball IQ. Considering his shoot-first, second and third mentality, though, and his 1/1 assist to turnover ratio, it’s tough to ever see him developing into a “true point guard.” He’s capable of finding the open man from time to time, for example on drive and dish and simple pick and roll plays, but his court vision is underdeveloped and it’s pretty clear that he’s not very comfortable running a half-court offense. What Teague does possess, with his ability to create offense in the blink of an eye, is an incredibly valuable skill in today’s NBA. With the way the game is called these days, he will be virtually impossible to keep out of the paint and on the free throw line, especially if he can find a way to get a lot stronger than he currently is. As athletic as Teague is, he’s not a great finisher around the rim at all already at the college level, as he tends to struggle with contact due to his underdeveloped frame. Defensively, Teague has all the tools to be effective, but he isn’t by any stretch of the imagination. His fundamentals are poor, as he tends to get out of his stance quickly and fall asleep off the ball. At times he’ll display some good energy and do a nice job contesting shots and staying in front of his man, but he seems to get bored quickly and will not always put much of a fight in, particularly when being posted up or forced to fight through screens. The biggest question mark surrounding Teague will be whether or not he decides to enter the draft. Hemade some commentsa few weeks back indicating that he may return for his junior season, but recentlyseems to have hedgedon that issue. There is no question that Teague is a fairly raw prospect who could clearly benefit from another season of experience playing the point guard position full time, as well as in the weight room. The problem is he’d be running a big risk coming back and possibly seeing his draft stock drop, especially since Ish Smith (a starter since his freshman season) will still be around for his senior season. It will be a tough decision either way for Teague, and he’s clearly already under a lot of pressure from Wake Forest’s coaching staff. From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2XLagokvH http://www.draftexpress.com

He played minutes at PG but he struggled greatly at the position in ACC play. I was shocked he came into the draft. I liked his potential but once I seen his PG skills were terrible and his passing skills rival it, I realized we don't have a NBA level starting PG on this roster.... AGAIN. George Hill dominated him and Hill is just a solid PG.

Damn right it is but Davis is a two way player that can be elite at both. We haven't had that at PF since KG and Duncan.

Teague gets outproduced by his opponent of the NBA season. He was a no show in the playoffs and George Hill who I've always stated was better than Jeff as a starting PG treated him like a scrub. He can't run an offense. His reads are slow. He has average BBIQ. His teammates don't trust him with the Basketball. His usage rate is higher than CP3. He always jumps the PnR which puts the player setting the screen in an offensive fouls situation. His PnR defense is horrible. Where is this successful PG you are talking about? You said Teague was better at first, now you are backtracking saying you don't think we should move up for them. What is it going to be? What is headscratching about Larkin? One of the better true PG's we had come into the draft since the Teague draft class.

Jeff Teague= A CP3 clone Marvin Williams= A James Worthy clone Joe Johnson= A Elgin Baylor clone #Diesel

Orlando has been doing a great deal of work on players in late lottery-mid 1st round range, weighing possible deals out of No. 2 spot.

And the Lakers beat the Supersonics. Please tell us how Jeff is better than Burke or Larkin? Tell us why he would be a better piece for us long term over MCW and Dennis S for us?

I would take at least four PG's from the draft over Teague and would venture to say that Larkin and Burke are better than Teague right now and will be forever. Sometimes you guys see Teague's talent and overstate his ability at PG. He's just an average PG, but he is pretty good talent. Can be a top 50 NBA player in the right role like Bobby Jackson.