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Have we reached the part of the year yet when people forget that summer league games are absolutely useless in telling us anything about players, yet try to draw conclusions anyway? Feels like we have.

Nate: said AJ Griffin looks like a 2 and a 3. So maybe he'll soak up some of the Huerter minutes if he can get in the rotation eventually .

But there exists the internet, sportsurge.net, and VPN if needed.

Capela too, he just doesn't get in folks butts to light a fire under them.

The reddit PHX fans are bummed he's gone.

Sounds like they are negotiating in the media, telling teams if you want to pry JC from us you better sweeten the offer.

Does this mean Ja isn't better than Trae anymore?

Are you sure that's not the cheese farts?

That's the new Round Mound of Rebound.

WTF? The max contract jab was so far beside the point of JC not having the same defensive value as OO, but sure, run with that if it makes you feel better. Let me rephrase then. If JC was as good on defense as OO, he probably would have gotten a max contract. Feel better?

In case anyone forgot about Summer League tonight.

As do I. But for arguments sake, I'd be willing to wager even without a jumpshot putting OO at the 4 would be a better team than what we rolled out there last year. We would clearly drop off on offense, but defensively we would more than make up the difference, especially with Murray now on the roster. Haha, good joke. JC not being an exceptional defender like OO is one of his main drawbacks. If JC was as good on defense as OO he would have gotten the max contract he wanted last season.

Let's back up. I simply brought an article with info about 5 different possible Ayton destinations since Sothron said we're still in talks about it. If you want to get bogged down in the weeds or argue with the article then have at it. Not my interest today.

I don't. I don't see how this is difficult. I'd personally rather JC be someone else's problem trying to force the roster fit. In a perfect world I'd subtract both Capela and JC and trade for Ayton or Simmons, move Okongwu with a jumpshot into the starting lineup at 4 or 5 depending on Ayton or Simmons, and trade for a solid quality backup 5 and hopefully a fringe quality backup 4 in case JJ isn't ready for the backup 4 yet. OO needs to be in the starting lineup, like yesterday. The next best scenario would be still trading both, inserting OO at starting center, and getting a great defensive stretch 4 alongside him, along with other backup 4/5s and/or draft picks. I have no idea who the potential stretch 4 is but I would have loved to swap JC for Aaron Gordon last year, soooo. Something like that. The next best thing would be trade JC, keep Capela if you can't trade for Ayton, insert OO at 4, but you trade for a high quality big backup that's hopefully a center, and if you can add a decent backup 4 too, or draft assets for JC then that would be great. The next best scenario is nobody offering a good enough trade package for JC and we simply keep him and continue to force the square peg into the round hole for one more season and make the best of it that we can. It sounds like I'm crapping all over this scenario, but in truth I'm really not. I know it's the most realistic outcome of our offseason. If we have to do this then really, it's fine. It's not ideal, but I'm talking about comparing it to better scenarios so obviously I can't talk about it being as optimal as those three situations above it. But I'm really not that opposed to doing this. That doesn't mean I can't point out the issues with the current status quo. The next scenario would be just taking a half-decent package of backups and/or picks in order to get JC off the roster and/or salary dump him. This is the scenario that none of us want, especially me. I want us to make better use of our assets, so obviously I don't want to be getting shirked on the trade return for any of them. I highly doubt this would ever happen, but...stranger things have happened. Yes, I know full well the potential offensive limitations of some of those proposed moves. No need to go into them further. I feel very strongly the rosters constructed as I have would be better teams overall.

One thing at a time JBird, lol. Obviously another player would have to be moved out on our end to a 3rd team, most likely Bogi or JC. If we're sending Bogi out too, then we probably won't get much if anything back in addition to Ayton, due to Bogi's current negative value. But if we send at JC with CC, then we need to be getting back at least a backup 4 or 5 in the deal too.