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Nah. See, that line of thinking is what got the Hawks in trouble in the first place. The Hawks werent the same team after the allstar break and everybody knows it. Go into next season with Pero Antić being heavy in the rotation again, with a loaded up East, and see how far the Hawks fall back in the pack. Go into the playoffs next year, with Korver as your option at two guard, and see what happens AGAIN. No, the Hawks got to upgrade some positions, no way around it.

And teams are not gonna let the Hawks sneak up on them again either. If the Hawks dont correct that front court, they might fall down to between a 6 and 8 seed, no joking. In fact, if they were in the Western Conference, they wouldnt have made it out of the FIRST round this year. New Orleans wouldve beat them.

EEEEHHH. If im wrong about Bud's front court decisions this year, wrong in that it was really Ferry's decisions, and not Bud's, i wouldnt mind seeing Bud hang on as ASSISTANT general manager and concentrating on personnel, while Wes is named general manager and concentrates more on the financial end of things. I rather do that if Ferry leaves, than to go get a outsider who brings something totally new to the table.

Its called STERNS/SILVER math. Look, you can add to THAT, how come Cleveland KEPT getting the first pick in the lottery??? How come Atlanta didnt make a move to counter Cleveland? Were they complicit with the NBA?? We know this is a business of ENTERTAINMENT FIRST. How is it that Cleveland, ALREADY having Tristan Thompson, adds all THAT, and Atlanta makes ZERO moves, and continues to roll Pero Antić out there as the answer. Im not buying any of that gargage. If Atlanta does NOT come hard in the front court during the off season, they are for some reason, NOT trying to get to the finals and win a championship, plain and simple.........

So, they cant have TWO leaders??????

I agree. ALL great teams have a leader........

I mentioned this article and it was merged into the danny ferry thread. discussion is over there about this....

http://jeffschultz.blog.ajc.com/2015/06/05/hawks-most-likely-scenario-danny-ferrys-resignation/ Jeff saying its most likely that Bud and assistant general manager, Wes Wilcox will act as general managers next year, until the Hawks hire a new general manager. I dont think Bud acting as general manager next season would be a good idea. Ok, lets back up. i feel, as most do, that even though Bud acted as gm this season, Ferry was making the decisions in the background. Im saying that to say that its not what Bud/Ferry has done in the front office this season, its what Bud has done ON THE COURT, which makes me shy away from him taking his philosophy into the draft and free agency for this coming season. The feeling i have about Bud is he places a ton of value on basketball i.q. I have no problem with that per se, but you STILL need TALENT, as the playoffs proved, to go all the way in the nba. He kept Pero, but shipped Payne out of Atlanta??? Pero ahead of Muscala/ScottBrand? There is only ONE player in this draft with a high basketball i.q. that i wouldnt mind the Hawks drafting, and thats Kaminsky. Problem is, Kaminsky has TALENT, and for some reason, knowing Bud, he will pass on him. People can disagree with my accessment, but its PROVEN that Bud values the other stuff over talent. The argument can be made that both Bud/Ferry have the same philosophy. Thats true, but Ferry also knows what he had in Lebron up in Cleveland. He knows BOTH sides of the coin, and i know he saw how his front court got destroyed in the playoffs by Tristan Thompson and Timofey Mosgov. I say Ferry would tip the scales in favor of a big that can play before Bud will. I could be wrong about Bud, its just a feeling i have. BRING FERRY BACK..................

You missing the OBVIOUS with tibs. The reason he was run out of Chicago is his EXTREMELY hands on approach with everything. No way either he or Bud would entertain him being a "assistant" coach...... Upgrade the center position and slide Horford over to the 4 is what the Hawks need to be concentrating on.....

I dont wanna see Tavares in a Hawks uniform. They dont need a project like that at this point. They need somebody ready to go or CLOSE to being ready to go. I will say this........for the thousandth time, ANYBODY but Pero would be a good look at this point..........

The Atlanta Hawk nightmare: The Philadelphia 76ers would be the PERFECT organization to pull this off. A young talented team looking for direction:

Danny Ferry is GONE.......Think about it. If there was any chance he was gonna stay, he wouldve BEEN back off that "suspension". As long as Mike Gearon and Dominique Wilkins have a say,(which they do), Ferry is gone. Its a shame too because Dominique is my favorite athlete. I think the more pressing issue is to make sure the Hawks hire a General Manager that Coach Bud WANTS to work with because the next issue WILL be keeping Bud. Other teams saw what he and Ferry did in Atlanta and are chumping at the bit to get either or both.

fixed that for you........

If anything, danny deserves a raise for turning this mess organization around.......

But i thought Pero was spreading the floor..................

LMAO...............

Im convinced al jefferson or tyson chandler will tell their agent they want to play for the Hawks. They will contact the Hawks and Coach bud will tell them that the Hawks are just fine with Pero Antić in the rotation..........lmao

Misleading thread title and article. So, per GAME, the totals were the same as last year. Per GAME, the fan interest was the same as last year. The problem is, the nba didnt fix both series so that it would go 7 and sell more advertising. (beer, etc.) THATS the bust they talking about.............lmao

Wouldnt a center that gives them 12 points a game ( balance the offense), accomplish the same thing? See, the thing is, people want the Hawks to get a big time scorer, when that wasnt the problem. If you get a scorer, now you have to FEED HIM. Now you taking away the passing game of the Hawks. You HAVE to go iso with a scorer. Now you are EASIER to defend. Now, lets say they dont address scoring from the center position, but address it from the shooting guard or small forward position. Instead of going outside the organization, all they got to do is move Carroll over to shooting guard, and Milsap over to small forward. Now, you got a big guy at shooting guard who CAN take you off the dribble ( Carroll), when the offense stagnates. You install a legit rebounder/ rim protector at center. The point is, the Hawks situation is frustrating because its NOT a hard fix. If they had a legit rebounder, shot blocker against Cleveland, the series wouldve went their way.

Hawks ranked in the top 10 in offense. Scoring points overall wasnt the problem. Its the droughts they would have every game when the shots would stop falling. If they had a legit post game, it would solve that. The "so called" best player in the game, Lebron, doesnt beat you with jump shots. He beats people in the paint with those bull rushes. Like Charles Barkley says over and over " Its easier to score with lay ups and dunks, vs jumpshots."

If they keep Sap, i prefer they move him to small forward, put Korver on the bench and slide Carroll over to shooting guard, Horford over to power forward. Get a legit center, and suddenly, the Hawks have a LEGIT big lineup that can spread the floor.

Eeeeeeh. I kinda disagree. I still think the Hawks can win a championship by just getting a legit big that can rebound, block shots, and have a decent offensive game. If the Hawks move Horford over to power forward and get a center that can score around 12 points a game, the Hawks would be in good shape.

http://uproxx.com/smokingsection/2015/02/did-bill-simmons-hint-that-lebron-james-took-a-steroid-vacation/ Did Bill Simmons Hint That LeBron James Took A Steroid Vacation? BY TSS CREW • 02.11.15 #LEBRON JAMES GETTY IMAGE Written By Drew Ricketts Do I have to start this by saying I’m a big fan of LeBron James, who is, in my view, the greatest to ever lace-up sneakers? Yes, I must start this by acknowledging that LeBron James, Akron native, is a god among men. His name now brings the best baggage along with it, like how many times he’s been an All-Star, how many NBA first teams he’s made, and the MVPs. Those labels hook onto him and drag around like Jesus piece chains and Kanye minks. The trouble with being a LeBron diehard (maybe apologist) is that throughout his astounding career, he reveals himself as endearingly vulnerable and, as what many perceive, a whiny tyrant. He’s been seen as patronizing, enabling his buddies to usurp the Cleveland regime, and deferential, asking Dwyane Wade to lend him championship training wheels. When Bill Simmons sort of insinuated in his recent podcast (still up for streaming here) that LeBron and the NBA are mixed up in a potential performance-enhancing substance scandal, some of it rang true. In fact, I have believed this theory of cobbled-together circumstantial observations that points to some mysterious anomalies in his performance. Simmons met fan backlash when he floated the idea that LeBron wasn’t the “same player” early in the 2015 season. He responded as such: “Like it was our fault that LeBron was playing below the rim for the first two months and the Cavs were a complete mess. I’m sorry for pointing that out everybody!” After NBA beat writer Zach Lowe struggled to politely categorize LeBron’s two-week refresher vacation to Miami in January, Simmons pushed his stance once again: Bill Simmons: Uh…I have a couple titles for that but I’m not gonna say. Zach Lowe: I’m not going anywhere near where you’re going. Bill Simmons: I’m not going anywhere either! He later elaborated, saying: “LeBron James…looked like he was entering another phase of his career. He’s got a lot of miles on him. Looked different in how he was playing. Went away for two weeks, came back. He’s been lights out. [He] basically has been at 29 [points] a game, 6 [assists] and 6 [rebounds]. Fifty percent shooting. He looks like LeBron again.” Looks like LeBron again? What did he look like before? He went on to press Lowe with a series of hypotheticals (an old trick), wanting him to confirm some of the drop-off in the King’s level of play. The alleged/obscured/implicated PED use in the Association is no hidden mystery, but only in the last two years has that gray cloud and its billowing smoke centered on the one-time Heatle. Bill Simmons, among others, has left breadcrumbs to the conspiracy musings since 2013, the tail end of a scorching run by Miami that culminated in two rings. This allusion to LeBron’s two-week recovery vacation in Florida is only one fact in a series of questionable events. Hypothetically speaking, here are some corresponding dates and events to consider from that shady world of sports speculation: PAGE 2 July 2009 – On LeBron James’ playoff run with the first Cavaliers squad he steered, Dwight Howard canceled out the King’s greatest power by stuffing him at the hoop and making it weird to take shots around him. By the final game of that series, the Boy King was suffering back spasms, likely holding the weight of the Youngest Ever To Do Everything somewhere in his lower spine. Plus, because he couldn’t shoot, he would just dunk all the time, which worked until he faced taller people. September 2009 – Rashard Lewis, of the Orlando Magic, went from the highest paid contract in the NBA to ran within the course of 18 months, give or take. Lewis was also suspended by the league for a higher than normal testosterone level, the canary in the mine shaft for artificial performance enhancement. November 2010 – Once LeBron returned to glory, as the undisputed captain of the Heat, the one thing that remained true is that he never got hurt. But how could that be? The person who had played the most minutes in the NBA over four years, won a gold medal and (previously) fell to spasms just never got injured. Seriously, never. Between 2010 and 2013, LeBron missed a grand total of 13 games. February 2013 – As the Heat ascended, they became a free agent destiny for potentially washed pet projects like Greg Oden and, would you believe, Rashard Lewis. Because his NBA struggles had lasted well over a year, Lewis’ place on an elite team was also intriguing. Lewis’ Magic teammate Jameer Nelson had his name identified by “Jessica,” an ex-employee of the Biogenesis clinic, known for distributing performance enhancers to top athletes. Another alum of Orlando’s 2009 squad, one LeBron knew all too well from the dagger three he dropped on the Cavs, Hidayet Türkoğlu, wasbusted for using a substance banned by the league in February 2013. March – June 2013 – A sports insider operating under the alias “Incarcerated Bob” interviewed Jessica, the receptionist from Biogenesis. Jessica claimed that LeBron James’s agent, Rich Paul, regularly paid the clinic for goods, and that they were for someone with initials “LJ.” She also mentioned the initials “JN” (allegedly Jameer Nelson) from records and claimed that Nelson came to buy substances in person. A few months later, Bill Simmons suggested that some big stars would take a fall if the true extent of PED use were discovered, and that it seems both probable and likely that all major athletes in American sports have had access to drugs that the layman can’t fathom. To sum it up, Türkoğlu, Lewis and Nelson all had some connection to a Florida steroid ring that may be funneled through Biogenesis, where Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees got his PEDs. Lewis was the only one still making a small impact in the NBA, and he was on the Heat bench doing the little things to keep him on the team. But what does LeBron have to do with it? Well, as the top “brand” identity of the NBA, LeBron has always had more to lose from failure than to gain from success. ESPN Naturally, all humans slow with age. But LeBron’s deceleration, a subject of much debate, many suggest came with some telltale signs of hormonal change that, frankly, happened in rapid succession. Shifting hairlines and increased head size are indicators of hormone boostingamong players who we’ve discovered are users. In June 2009, LeBron had surgery to remove a growth from his jaw. Around 2011, the internet exploded with LeBron hairline memes, as it seemed he had undergone drastic effects male pattern baldness in the span of a few years. While there’s nothing certain, many feel the trail is certainly there to follow. Bill Simmons does not want to be the whistleblower on PED use in the NBA, so he murmurs his hints, couples his facts with innuendo and generally jokes his way through the notion that the NBA is ignoring the possibility by refusing to test for HGH in any consistent way. Because Simmons, the NBA and ESPN have a cordial relationship (that sometimes tests his reputation as a “regular sports fan”), he is loath to insinuate that its stars are doing anything illicit. Instead, the Sports Guy maybe drops these clues, hoping that the more discerning fans will keep a watchful eye on it themselves.

steroids DO make you go bald early, dont they??????