Duff_Man

Quote: Quote: .. for the loss is that Nicholas did not eat corndogs last night. That's the only thing I can think of. i only eat them at lunch on workdays and i didn't work on monday or tuesday, so i didn't eat any guess i should change it to weekdays instead of workdays hopefully we'll win again tonite so i can eat some tomorrow...i was looking forward to today's lunch but now i can't eat them btw, the game isn't on tv tonight (neither game in toronto this season is on tv) Actually, the game is on the NBA package tonight. FYI. It is on NBA1 on DirecTV.

Quote: get down to Philips! I'm heading out the door right now. I'll be there in 12 hours for tip off!

Quote: Quote: You seem to forget that I could care less what other people think. My opinion is the only one that matters to me. Then why don't you create your own board and you can spam yourself to your hearts content? Why are you constantly hyping Marvin if you don't care what anyone thinks? That is totally bassackwards. Keep in mind he replied to a post that was already started by a Marvin basher.

Quote: I don't remember seeing anyone outside of Chad Ford lauding Darko Milicic as the #2 player in that draft. Like I said though. Many of you are going to act like you never criticized Marvin when he's putting up 24-25 PPG, 8-9 RPG, 3-4 APG, while shooting a high percentage from the field and behind the arc, getting to the free throw line and shooting a high percentage, and playing lock down man up defense. Marvin Williams will be a top 10 NBA player in 2-3 years. Chris Paul won't be. That's why taking Marvin was better than taking Chris Paul, not to mention the fact that Paul doesn't fit what the Hawks want. I am on your side with the "no bashing Marvin", but this statement is just plain asinine.

Quote: Isn't that a bit presumptuous? I'll be there...what else you need?

Quote: If we can only fill our Pg need this offseason like we should have last the deal becomes better. JJ is a menace at the 2. With a true Pg and JJ we would have an unselfish, dominate backcourt. W We're close. The JJ signing was a must. It's looking better week by week.

Quote: I still don't like the fact that Iverson scored 53points and he always has big games where he scores 50 or close to it against the Hawks. We can't at least contain him to 35 or 40points? Who gives a crap? We won.

Quote: I think I read something about how we play 9 of 10 games after Christmas against sub-.500 teams. Maybe win 6-7? That would be awesome. Even a 10 game improvement over last year would have me delighted.

Isaiah is an awful GM, coach, etc. Awful. Emulating anything he ever does is a sure sign your team is about to suck terribly and go broke doing it. Malik Rose for Nazr? Kurt Thomas for Q? Eddy Curry? Jamal Crawford? Isaiah is a joke.

Quote: Quote: Amen --- It is amusing how these boards view a 4 out of 5 winning streak --- we have been so condition to losing that we put are almost frightened to enjoy the wins --- instead we want to qualify the Hawks wins. I agree that regardless of all the factors a win is a win. In fact all those that are qualifying the win over the Nuggets should note that just a couple of weeks ago we would have found some way to lose to the Nuggets regardless of the number of starters or "CBA" players on the floor. What can't be denied is that the Hawks have 4 additional wins on the standings against NBA teams emphasis on NBA. Frightened to enjoy the wins?? Probably because a 5 game losing streak would follow this winning streak. That's the type of thing that usally goes on. There is no doubt that it's been a better couple of weeks, but that doesn't change that the Hawks beat a team they should have beaten soundly and they barely pulled it out. So, we only beat one team over the "better couple of weeks"?

Quote: Quote: I'm glad Shaq is playing tomorrow night. Because if he wasn't, and we happened to win, that wouldn't be a "legit" win either. Actually it would be legit because they would still have Zo. But if they were missing Shaq, Zo, Williams, Walker, and Haslem then I might be less than impressed. Sorry, but you're playing in left field.

Quote: Francis for Al, Lue (or Delk or both), and Smith(or Chill - or possibly Salim if they would go for it) Orlando has Nelson to play pg and Stevenson for Sg - they are only adequate but the point would be to fortify their F spots with a veteran swing F in Al and a younger SF in Smith (or Chill). It seems like Orlando comes out ahead in the deal, but only a little. It is worth it to us to get a veteran PG, who would pair interestingly with JJ. pg - stevie sg - jj - salim sf - Smith (or Chill) pf - Marv c - to be added, Zsa-zsa Positives - The 1-4 spots would run and score - and would be fun to watch. We wouldn't have the players we need to develop sitting on the bench (at least until the next draft). Negatives - We give up a little more than we get - but not much - maybe we get some draft picks added in. C would still hurt, but that will have to adressed another way anyway. With this lineup we would start winning more games and would end up out of the top 4 - so we would be giving up gay/aldridge/rondo. No Steve Francis. He's cancerous and not really a winner. I think we do not need a shoot-first guard.

Quote: LOL you go right on ahead thinking a win over a near CBA team is of big importance.. I'll continue to be realistic. 4 out of 5 games is nothing to scoff at. And it is a huge deal considering last year's team would have lost 4 out of the 5. People have been spending too much time on the Falcons' boards. After the futility we have been through as fans of the Hawks in recent years, belittling a nice winning streak is just blatant negativity for the sake of being negative.

Quote: http://www.nba.com/news/pow_051219.html NEW YORK, Dec. 19 – The Atlanta Hawks’ Joe Johnson and the Los Angeles Lakers’ Kobe Bryant today were named the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week, respectively, for games played Monday, Dec. 12 through Sunday, Dec. 18. Johnson averaged 25.3 points on .514 shooting, 7.0 assists and 6.3 rebounds to lead the Hawks to a 3-1 week with wins over Cleveland, New York and Denver. Johnson scored 33.0 points in his last two games of the week, including a career-high 36 points against New York, to lead Atlanta to its first winning week since the 2003-04 season. Bryant led the Lakers to a 3-1 week, averaging 33.8 points on .517 shooting, 5.8 rebounds, 3.8 assists and 2.0 steals in matchups against Dallas, Memphis, Washington and Houston. Bryant registered his fourth and fifth 40-plus-point games of the season and was the game-high scorer in all four contests. Here is a closer look at the week for Johnson and Bryant: Joe Johnson, Atlanta Hawks Dec. 13 at Cleveland: Tallied team highs of 18 points and nine rebounds, while adding six assists in a 100-94 road win over the Cavs. Dec. 14 at Philadelphia: Posted 17 points, eight assists and seven rebounds in a 106-101 loss to the Sixers. Dec. 16 vs. New York: Scored a career-high 36 points on 14-of-18 shooting, while posting five assists and four rebounds in a 122-111 victory over the Knicks. Dec. 18 vs. Denver: Recorded 30 points, nine assists and five rebounds in a season-high 50 minutes in a 110-107 overtime win over the Nuggets. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers Dec. 12 at Dallas: Recorded 43 points, five rebounds and a season-high four steals in a 109-106 road win over the Mavericks. Dec. 14 at Memphis: Posted 27 points on 10-of-17 shooting, eight rebounds and three assists in a 94-79 victory over the Grizzlies. Dec. 16 vs. Washington: Tallied 41 points, eight rebounds and four assists in a 97-91 home win over the Wizards. Dec. 18 vs. Houston: Had 24 points, six assists, two rebounds and two steals in a 76-74 loss to the Rockets. Other nominees for Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week were Cleveland’s LeBron James, Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki, Detroit’s Chauncey Billups, Indiana’s Jermaine O’Neal, Miami’s Dwyane Wade, New Orleans’ Chris Paul, Philadelphia’s Chris Webber and Utah’s Mehmet Okur. No Boris Diaw for the West? Guess Bill Walton doesn't vote.

Hmmm...lots of public action on the Hawks. I am fading Joe Public and taking the Knicks.

Quote: which is why this game is dangerous. Sure, they are a bad team. But in the ranks of bad teams, we're a little worse than they are. With their record, you know they're going to come in fird up, ready to get another elusive win. Look for someone on that roster to GO OFF on us tonight. But we need to match that attitude and intensity. I think we have a couple of players that they don't have the personel to guard yet. So talent wise, we can do it. We just have to come out and want it more. I look for JJ to have a great game along with zaza, he's due. Anyone have a Zaza injury report??

Quote: Nikoloz Tskitivili kicked azz in the preseason... As he does a lot of preseasons. The guy is a waste.

Quote: in philly tonite (wearing my j_smoove jersey of course). it was even worse in person! hawks get NO respect from anyone. i shouldn't be suprised b/c this has happened to us too many times going back to last season. we had 'em. Al couldn't be stopped. read the postgame report on sixers.com. Mo Cheeks speaks of getting "breaks"- even he knows. our tenth loss by >10pts. the bad calls started early and never stopped. FTA: ATL-18 PHI-35 We were JOBBED tonight. We're Bret Hart, and the 76ers were Shawn Michaels.

Quote: Al to Indy. Artest to Sac-town. Peja to Denver. A-Miller to Atlanta... I think everybody leaves the table Happy... Atlanta then Deals Lue to Milwaukee for Gadzuric... Gad, Zaza, JSmoove, JJ, A-Miller... And we're gunning for Aldridge in the draft! Man, you really create some doozies.

Artest and JJ on the court at the same time would be an awesome amount of defense alone. Would probably help. But...I HATE the idea of bringing another JR Rider here to rip the heart out of our franchise. Although, I bet if he was traded and getting his shots, etc, he would be a model citizen for at least a year or two. Interesting to speculate, probably not going to happen. I would venture to guess that Indy will try to put him in the West to get him out of their hair for good.

Quote: Yea but I still remember when he lit up Ben Wallace and detroit for 50. He was on fire that night. He is the most tenative guy ever. He cried for fouls while his man dunked on the other end. he is slow, cannot defend, and shoots WAY too many jumpers.

"PLEASE BRING IN TUBBY SMITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Um...no. Not a chance in hell. He's not even that great of a college coach. I feel it is apparent that Paul Silas is the best candidate right now. Laimbeer would be interesting, but not what we need. He would certainly add brains and toughness.

Quote: I disagree. I believe that the draft is the place to acquire talent, and if you draft based on need, you will likely pass on the better talent. Maybe one day we will be able to deal from a position of strength to get a need, but I don't want to see this team adopt a draft for need philosophy in the draft. That's what we always used when Pete Babcock was the GM, and you see how our drafts panned out. Teams that draft for need do not draft well. Problem is that this franchise has such an awful draft history that we might as well try to sign FAs. I know Marvin will work out, but I hope it isn't for a West team ala Diaw.

Quote: Obviously, most that have voted on this would like to see Paul Silas brought in to get the team to the turning point. What's interesting though is that three have voted for Chuck Daly. His name is not one that has been mentioned before. The reason I included him is a previous relationship that he and Billy Knight had. Remember that, when Vancouver made the move to bring in Billy Knight as the GM, they brought in Chuck Daly as an adivsor. Maybe the two keep in touch. I think he's a guy who is obviously not a long term fix, but he's a professional that knows how to win. The one thing our young players need is someone that can teach them how to win. At this point, it seems like a veteran coach that has been there and gone through the battles, especially one that has won championships like Daly, is the best fit for this team. It seems that a veteran coach would maybe demand more from his players than a rookie coach would. But isn't Daly pushing 80 years old? I think he may be too old to come back and take the rigors of a NBA schedule.

Quote: I think the Hawks can do better. Frankly I think Ivey is better than Blake. Blake can't shoot or drive. Very weak. I am a Maryland alum so I am fairly familiar with his game. And he plays poor defense as well. I would love to get Claxton here for a run.